Amyante Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 "Zargathia has mixed feelings about this decision by the Italian Republic. If a school wishes to profile itself as Catholic, why forbid it from displaying a crucifix? If a non-Catholic teacher were to apply for a job in such a school, surely he would have no grounds to object to the crucifixes hanging on the walls there. In terms of more general public buildings however that do not have alternatives available (such as town halls), we can understand how they have come to this conclusion." "In our country, every person is granted freedom of religion, and schools that adhere to one religion are allowed as long as alternatives continue to exist. And assuming the non-Catholic from the example mentioned above does not wish to join a Catholic school, supply will eventually balance out demand naturally." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 "Zargathia has mixed feelings about this decision by the Italian Republic. If a school wishes to profile itself as Catholic, why forbid it from displaying a crucifix? If a non-Catholic teacher were to apply for a job in such a school, surely he would have no grounds to object to the crucifixes hanging on the walls there. In terms of more general public buildings however that do not have alternatives available (such as town halls), we can understand how they have come to this conclusion.""In our country, every person is granted freedom of religion, and schools that adhere to one religion are allowed as long as alternatives continue to exist. And assuming the non-Catholic from the example mentioned above does not wish to join a Catholic school, supply will eventually balance out demand naturally." What private schools do or expose in their classrooms does not concern us as long as they don't violate the law of the Republic, therefore catholic schools are still able to expose the crucifix in their classrooms, the same goes for private clinics and private hospitals. But in all public buildings (Government buildings, townhalls, police stations, army barracks, schools, hospitals, clinics, ministries, state-controlled services), the exposure of religious symbols is prohibited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 IC: The Citadel approves of this action as well. Proof that indeed fascism can be a fair system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyante Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 What private schools do or expose in their classrooms does not concern us as long as they don't violate the law of the Republic, therefore catholic schools are still able to expose the crucifix in their classrooms, the same goes for private clinics and private hospitals. But in all public buildings (Government buildings, townhalls, police stations, army barracks, schools, hospitals, clinics, ministries, state-controlled services), the exposure of religious symbols is prohibited. "Thank you for your clarification, we feel we have misunderstood the initial announcement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ah Tahoe: The worst abuser of human rights and the least culturally diffused nation in the northern hemisphere. We find it rather hilarious that your nation is religious. You nation is clearly devil worshippers, because at the rate your policies are going, your leaders will certainly burn. Please explain to us how we are human rights abusers to our citizens? It is rather hard for a democractic nation to abuse its own people. Also please explain how being culturally homogenous affects our religiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Catholics fear Borghese’s property confiscations could target Church ROMA - Widespread anxiety exists among Catholic leaders in Italy who fear that General Junio Borghese could try to confiscate churches, schools and other church property and try to “eliminate” the work of the Catholic Church, a source close to the Italian Bishops Conference has told RAI Radio Television. The source, who asked not to be named, told that tensions have increased after the Supreme Court’s decision to remove the crucifix from public buildings across the nation. Government figures characterized the initiative as part of an effort to protect the secularism of the country and a religion-free education. Church figures fear that it is the first step in a thoroughgoing confiscation program affecting church property nationwide. “As regards the future, no one knows, but he could confiscate churches, schools, and other ecclesiastical buildings. He might try to eliminate the work of the Church – it used to receive subsidies from the government, but these have been reduced over the last week. In particular this has had an effect on Church schools.” Since the decision of the Supreme Court there has been growing tension between the Church and the Republican Military Government. The country’s bishops’ conference has been alarmed by General Borghese’s style of secularism, which the clergy see as opposed to the country’s culture and values. “Borghese depicts the church as an enemy of the Italian people whenever it is critical of the government, without seeing that the Catholic Church is just trying to make its voice heard when there is injustice.” Opposition to the Church is growing. In the city of Latina, near Rome, one priest had to endure loud speakers playing music outside his church to drown out his preaching. Some priests have been threatened for preaching against Borghese’s proposed reforms. RAI’s source said ordinary Catholics should respond to Borghese by offering not only critical analysis, but also answers from the social teaching of the Church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordosaur94 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 We are shocked by this recent turn of events, and that we hope that things go for the better for the Catholic Church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 We are shocked by this recent turn of events, and that we hope that things go for the better for the Catholic Church. "I surely do not." - Random Ibadi Muslim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingChris Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 "I surely do not." - Random Ibadi Muslim "Well shut up!" - Random Texan Catholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 "Well shut up!" - Random Texan Catholic "Ah yes, asking those that do not believe in what you believe to quiet down. What a true Texan." - Ibadi Muslim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingChris Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 "Ah yes, asking those that do not believe in what you believe to quiet down. What a true Texan." - Ibadi Muslim "Wishing a people badwill, what a true Ibadi." - Texan Catholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 "Wishing a people badwill, what a true Ibadi." - Texan Catholic "You know nothing of my sect of Islam. Ignorance is a bliss for you Texans, isn't it?" - Ibadi Muslim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyante Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 *** Private *** Lu Gang - "Wait... So an American and an Arab are arguing about something that happened in Europe and that involves neither of them directly?" Amyante - "Pretty much." Lu Gang - "...Politics are weird." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 "Wishing a people badwill, what a true Ibadi." - Texan Catholic "You know nothing of my sect of Islam. Ignorance is a bliss for you Texans, isn't it?" - Ibadi Muslim "Both of you are idiots, displaying exactly why all religion should be banned." ~Random Atheist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 "Both of you are idiots, displaying exactly why all religion should be banned." ~Random Atheist "At least they both have a belief in a higher being." - Deist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordosaur94 Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 "Both of you are idiots, displaying exactly why all religion should be banned." ~Random Atheist "Good grief, that's Atheists for ya." ~random Cascadian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned the Great Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 President Ned of Nedland has praised the Italian Supreme Court's decision regarding this matter, one of the few things he agrees with the Italian government on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 "At least they both have a belief in a higher being." - Deist 'A totally irrational belief." Atheist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 "You should all be touched by His Noodly Appendage! Our heaven has a beer volcano and a stripper factory!" - Random Pastafarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "This is exactly why Christianity is not allowed to spread outside of Port Dranagg, and it is a very small following at that. To many fanatics in that religion." -Dranaggan Relations Office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordosaur94 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "Atheists, buncha creeps they are!"~ Random Cascadian Jew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakwars Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) Seriously, just stop. - Everybody Edited November 17, 2009 by freakwars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "This is exactly why Christianity is not allowed to spread outside of Port Dranagg, and it is a very small following at that. To many fanatics in that religion." -Dranaggan Relations Office "The same could be said of ANY religion." ~Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordosaur94 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "The same could be said of ANY religion."~Unknown "I agree"~ Cascadian scholar and historian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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