Gnost Dural Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I would like to propose a new way of governing the way Nukes are being used. Right now, dozens of them are flying at multiple countries, or being prepared to be launched at multiple countries. I would think that though RL is not CNRP, some basic rules still apply. That being global radiation and nuclear winters and fallout. With so many nukes, there ought to be consequences from GM's on the number of nukes as well as having consequences for neighboring nations. You can't just say: Oh well, I don't like your tone so I'm nuking you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I would like to propose a new way of governing the way Nukes are being used. Right now, dozens of them are flying at multiple countries, or being prepared to be launched at multiple countries. I would think that though RL is not CNRP, some basic rules still apply. That being global radiation and nuclear winters and fallout. With so many nukes, there ought to be consequences from GM's on the number of nukes as well as having consequences for neighboring nations.You can't just say: Oh well, I don't like your tone so I'm nuking you. If the aggressor wants to play with nukes, fine, they get to eat nukes or other WMDs from their enemy or their enemy's allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnost Dural Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Except the fallout from those nukes logically and scientifically would affect neighboring nations. The problem is people think nukes are insular and affect only those whom they are used against. No, they affect the surrounding environs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm fine with this. ALSO suggesting that your IC-land radius is used for the SDI and the Missile defenses, so you can shoot nukes and whatnot down even when they're barely flying past your nation or something. ALSO suggesting that technology heightens the chance of the SDI shooting down stuff, like 5% for 1k and 2k tech and then 3% for every other thousand tech, starting from 60% and maximising at 91%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 No nukes are being thrown at anybody at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 No. Just because you can't handle a few CRUISE MISSILES, not nukes, being fired, doesn't mean you need to restrict nukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 This has been brought up already. Certain things are nulled in the sake of RP. It all depends on who wants to RP what, and most people don't want to, or can't effectively RP nuclear fallout. It's boring, for one thing, and it also eliminates quite a large portion of your nation. Another note, CNRP is not the real world. There is always a degree of, if you will, 'lulz', present in it. Take it as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I like the SDI idea, it allows non nuclear nations to avoid Nuclear Ownage if they close to an SDI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm fine with this. ALSO suggesting that your IC-land radius is used for the SDI and the Missile defenses, so you can shoot nukes and whatnot down even when they're barely flying past your nation or something. ALSO suggesting that technology heightens the chance of the SDI shooting down stuff, like 5% for 1k and 2k tech and then 3% for every other thousand tech, starting from 60% and maximising at 91%? No. An IG SDI only shoots down nukes hitting your nation and only at a 60% success rate therefore it only covers your nation in the RP and remains at 60%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 ALSOsuggesting that your IC-land radius is used for the SDI and the Missile defenses, so you can shoot nukes and whatnot down even when they're barely flying past your nation or something. ALSO suggesting that technology heightens the chance of the SDI shooting down stuff, like 5% for 1k and 2k tech and then 3% for every other thousand tech, starting from 60% and maximising at 91%? That first is already in effect, really. I like the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 That first is already in effect, really.I like the second. I don't remember this being applied in the last few cases of flying nukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 No to the tech/nukes thing. No reason to make it more complicated than it has to be. 60% is 60%. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I don't remember this being applied in the last few cases of flying nukes. It was scrapped a long time ago when people with an SDI were blocking nukes on the other side of the planet. It only applies to your geographic area now, though I believe that if it comes very close to your border you're allowed to use your SDI. Slim window though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 If people want to use nukes, that's fine. However, when a nuke hits their territory, they better be RPing the damn effects, especially if they threw the first nuke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Retroactive engagement of Fallout. GO! Sorry, all of the earth except most of Antarctica is radioactive and dead from the last nuclear war. -game over- *Insert 10000 coin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I don't remember this being applied in the last few cases of flying nukes. It was scrapped a long time ago when people with an SDI were blocking nukes on the other side of the planet. It only applies to your geographic area now, though I believe that if it comes very close to your border you're allowed to use your SDI. Slim window though. Lynneth, what Sargun describes is what I thought you were advocating. And you are correct in this instance, Sargun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 We actually did have a thing where we tried to do fallout, but everyone was up in arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Fallout is one of those things people will do if they want. Most of the time the person just drop off the radar for a few weeks and then start up when they are ready to again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I totally agree to at least some restrictions...so a janitor can't 'accidentally' launch a nuclear payload at a random nation. *cough*Novak*cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnost Dural Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 This has been brought up already. Certain things are nulled in the sake of RP. It all depends on who wants to RP what, and most people don't want to, or can't effectively RP nuclear fallout. It's boring, for one thing, and it also eliminates quite a large portion of your nation.Another note, CNRP is not the real world. There is always a degree of, if you will, 'lulz', present in it. Take it as that. Fair enough. I just like to be forewarned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I totally agree to at least some restrictions...so a janitor can't 'accidentally' launch a nuclear payload at a random nation.*cough*Novak*cough* You cannot restrict how other people run their nuclear programs. For all your !@#$%*ing and moaning about godmoding, you seem very keen on restricting what others can do in their own country. Pot calling the kettle black much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) You cannot restrict how other people run their nuclear programs. For all your !@#$%*ing and moaning about godmoding, you seem very keen on restricting what others can do in their own country. Pot calling the kettle black much? Or you guys can cut the !@#$ and get off his back. Either or. Edited November 9, 2009 by SpacingOutMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) I totally agree to at least some restrictions...so a janitor can't 'accidentally' launch a nuclear payload at a random nation.*cough*Novak*cough* You cannot restrict how other people run their nuclear programs. For all your !@#$%*ing and moaning about godmoding, you seem very keen on restricting what others can do in their own country. Pot calling the kettle black much? Look, for nucelar weapons, there are all kinds of security issues...codes to arm the weapons, codes to get TO the areaas to apply the codes, codes to get into the area where you can press the button...need I go on? And a bloody Janitor bypasses all of this? Edited November 9, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 You cannot restrict how other people run their nuclear programs. For all your !@#$%*ing and moaning about godmoding, you seem very keen on restricting what others can do in their own country. Pot calling the kettle black much? You mean he's acting like the real pope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) Look, for nucelar weapons, there are all kinds of security issues...codes to arm the weapons, codes to get TO the areaas to apply the codes, codes to get into the area where you can press the button...need I go on? And bloody Janoitor bypasses all of this? Did you know that some of the CNRP nations have the world's worst security system for their nuclear silo? There could have been no codes and simply a button to launch the nuke, and a lock to secure the silo. And heck, if someone wanted to RP a nuclear silo's launch button located in one of the mental hospitals' rooms, let them be. Edited November 9, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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