Sargun II Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I would actually have to recruit if CoJ is to make it to be strong... meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) NPO's a gimme. And I think CoJ has a lot going for it at the moment too because they have a few veterans in the mix. ( Sargun ) Like Moo said, third place is a bit of a tossup. I voted Nevermore because they have very strong allied backing. But some of these other alliances have a shot as well. If what Moo says is the real deal, UED might struggle a little, but I wouldn't wish it on them. Edited November 7, 2009 by Uralica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 They do not have internal conflict, they have competent and well-known leaders- Schattenmann has balls of steel and determination to match it- and they have set objectives and a red senator. The reason they have such few members is that Schattenmann was inactive at first and didn't get into proper recruitment and so forth until later. Last I checked, that Senator is due to Red Dawn Senate Sharing. I'm not saying they aren't a contender for top three, I'm saying that having a Senator thanks to NPO doesn't automatically make them one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 The NPO will restore its former strength and greatness but will not enforce the Red Team policy it formerly held. Most of the other red team alliances will fade back into obscurity two minutes after this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica, UED and CoJ have the greatest chance of success, but I think UED will probably collapse due to incompetent leadership. TDP might become a reasonably successful alliance. UED is doing fine with thier leadership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I think UED will probably collapse due to incompetent leadership. Well, you would be the foremost authority in that field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica will always be prominent on the red team they have taken the worst that CN can throw at them and they still exist, so they will probably be around when Admin pulls the plug on the game. But the other alliances you mentioned have yet to face any real tests of character so I really can not say if any of them will be around in six months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Mockingbird Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica and the Cult of Justitia, I doubt the rest will outlast this poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica and the Cult of Justitia, I doubt the rest will outlast this poll. What this fine gentleman said. Perhaps in hindsight I would have voted TMF too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I can't believe you guys are still bitter that UED didn't join Red Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I can't believe you guys are still bitter that UED didn't join Red Dawn It's not that I'm bitter they didn't join Red Dawn, it's that they were so petty and aggressive throughout the entire negotiation process, and then stormed out when they didn't get their way and NPO was included in the bloc, to try and set up a megamerger which would be a de facto red bloc, excluding NPO. *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerius Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) I lol'd at the results. CoJ and TDP are about as elitist and isolationist as they come. Neither aim to be 'strong' in the poll's sense. I voted NPO, SWF and Little Big Alliance. NPO for obvious reasons, and the other two because they seem to have a genuine set-up which can take them places. I refrained from voting for UED because, to be perfectly honest, my contact with them working on Red Dawn would lead me to be surprised if they don't get rolled before this time next year. Just quietly. Oh wait. Edit: Clarification. Edited November 7, 2009 by President Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litha Riddle Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I voted New Pacific Order, CoJ and TDP First one is obvious CoJ cause I'm really starting to like the members and hope they grow more. TDP cause I just love the name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerius Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) If were talking about strength in numbers, NS and diplomatic clout, I am surprised CoJ is second and getting so much mention. Don't get me wrong, the alliance is an excellent one; I just don't see them raking in the stats anytime soon. And, for the record, there is nothing wrong with that. Edited November 7, 2009 by President Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 There won't be any alliances from this list except NPO which are at all notable on the world stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James I Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) The 3 who currently have most NS. Edited November 7, 2009 by James I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 voted all because they'll all be dead before then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I cannot say for certain how powerful CoJ will be compared to other Red alliances in 6 months' time. Power is "the ability or official capacity to exercise control" I would be surprised if in 6 months CoJ has a ton of NS. As Kent noted, we are growing deliberately and slowly. But "power" in itself implies more than physical strength. For an alliance of 8 members (curse you, 25th Day, RIP DJTJ7), CoJ is already wildly powerful beyond any other 8-man AA by virtue of our politics (the politics of dancing, and of ooooh feeling good). It may be that in fact we are not among the strongest, but are very well within the most powerful, but I am certain that we will still be here, even if, as Bob opines, we are not at all noteworthy. The power of Justitia compels us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I only picked NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) TMF is a real alliance? Huh. You learn something new every day. I thought it was just Vilien's platform. Real enough for your alliance to have signed an economic treaty with us. Also, I fixed your poor attempt at disrespectfully misspelling my name. Pacifica and the Cult of Justitia, I doubt the rest will outlast this poll. I'm hurt. Edited November 7, 2009 by Vilien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 The Destiny Project. For being pros and for being awesome. They will do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusTroy Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica has dominated the red team for a long time but no empire can stay forever. New times comes and Soviet Union accept the challenge of being a red alliance compiting with Pacifica in the red team. Soviet Union will give a surprise in the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Matveyev Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica, UED and CoJ have the greatest chance of success, but I think UED will probably collapse due to incompetent leadership. TDP might become a reasonably successful alliance. Incompetent leadership? What? I've talked to King Death II for a while now, and he seems to be quite the experienced leader, and he knows what he's doing. How about you go join UED and show them how it's done then. Voted UED, already have a strong memberbase, and I see it getting stronger in the coming months. Not to say SWF won't be close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pacifica has dominated the red team for a long time but no empire can stay forever. New times comes and Soviet Union accept the challenge of being a red alliance compiting with Pacifica in the red team. Soviet Union will give a surprise in the time being. Umm...wow. I must admit, made me giggle a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Using any stat metric there's really only one choice. But stats aren't the only measure of strength when you consider say, CoJ. Yeah they're small, but love him or hate him Schattenman has presence. It's not quantifiable, but it gives him and CoJ as a whole an outsize level of influence. Which can be just as important as any in-game stat under some circumstances. I'll go with NPO, CoJ, and TMF I think. For a fourth, probably Nevermore. NPO for obvious reasons, and the other three because they have legitimately excellent leadership in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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