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5 = neutral

TOP - 3

MHA - 6

Sparta - 2

NpO - 9

IRON - 0

ODN - 0

FARK - 7

GPA - 1

NPO - 2

FOK - 6

MK - 8

WTF - 1

TOOL - 7

TDO - 1

VE - 2

Legion - 0

RoK - 0

GATO - 8

CSN - 7

Athens - 7

Gremlins - 4 (the rate went up thanks to Ramirus Maximus)

MCXA - 0

UPN - 5

RIA - 7

STA - 3

Invicta - 1

RnR - 6

MASH - 5

NADC - 0

WAPA - 8

NV - 7

NSO - 3 (Yeah I know. Brainwash in progress though)

NEW - 6 (Scars are cool)

MA - 5

Umbrella - 8

FAN - 9 (yay guns, I expect great things from them in the next war)

LoSS - 1

TSO - 0

NATO - 0

Nordreich - 0

GR - 9

Vanguard - 6

GOD - 4 (would've been 0 if I didn't appreciate Big Z posts so much)

FoB - 5

PC - 6 (Warmongers with style)

Valhalla - 0 (Warmongers with...?)

GGA - 0

TPF - 0

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TOP - 2 Godliest military in CN

MHA - 7 Really a 6, but they get +1 for the theme :awesome:

Sparta - 8 Impressed me during the Karma war

NpO - 10 I just love these guys to bits

IRON - 4 They are good fighters, but they are still suffering from the Hegemony label

ODN - 8 They ended up a bit lower because of Merlin

FARK - 10 :wub:

GPA - 6

NPO - 2 Not much to say here. It just don't seem like they regret anything

FOK - 9 FOK em

MK - 10 Not the usual RoK opinion maybe, but MK is filled with peeps I consider friends

WTF - 5 Meh

TOOL - 6 :wub: Bama

TDO - 5

VE - 6 Generally honourable

Legion - 1 lol

RoK - 10

GATO - 6 They are improving

CSN - 5

Athens - 8 Cool guys

Gremlins - 6 I really liked them a lot before, but their delays in deciding sides in the Karma war really brought them down

MCXA - 5 Much better after TSO formed

UPN - 5

RIA - 10 Balloons, cake, flowers, puppies and guns. Also, booze

STA - 9 Great guys all around

Invicta - 4 Keep kissing that sweet, sweet $@!

RnR - 8 Just cool

MASH - 5

NADC - 3

WAPA - 4 They are becoming better

NV - 6

NSO - 8 I like their style

NEW - 8 Great warriors

MA - 8 They don't have Kait anymore :o

Umbrella - 10 Ella, ellah, ellah

FAN - 10 $%&@ yeah. Their ability to hang in there is alone enough to give them a 10

LoSS - 8 Cool peeps, great in the war

TSO - 1 lol

NATO - 8 (I miss you Anu)

Nordreich - 5

GR - 9 Really, really cool

Vanguard - 9 Cool

GOD - 10 Superfriend

FoB - 7 Don't know that much, but from what I've seen, they are cool

PC - 8 Up and down

Valhalla - 7

GGA - 1

TPF - 7 I actually like mhawk :P

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This question in various forms often pops in Q&As MK has with other alliances, and I thought it would be interesting to see what kind of responses it garnered here.

I'm including all the top 40 alliances plus other well known ones. Rate what you think of all these alliances on a 1-10 scale, 10 is really awesome and 1 is really terrible (OOC: IC dislike, you don't have to hate the players /OOC).

Heh. Heavily colored by personal likes & dislikes, very little about skills. Oh well :P

As of today:

TOP - 7 Really knows their stuff, has some people I love (Dr Dan, Timberland etc)

MHA - 5 I like the theme, & they did the best they could in a lose/lose situation. Also, WCR & jerdge really know where their towels are.

Sparta - 3 Past history

NpO - 8 They are resilient, and I like how they conduct themselves.

IRON - 8 Best friends forever <3 Has many folks that I like too.

ODN - 4 Cataduanes gives a +1, also they *seem* to have found a spine

FARK -6 Very organized & professional, from what I can tell.

GPA - 3 Don't know them, don't find them all that interesting either, glad they provide a home for a certain kind of folk though

NPO -5 They're all right.

FOK - 6 The crazy Dutch warmongers :P I like that, they are up front & fun guys

MK -8 May frequently be on opposite sides, but they really have their stuff together. Very solid alliance, skilled in all departments. (has a couple members of my dream gov)

WTF - 3 Who?

TOOL - 5 I like what I have seen, but don't know them very well.

TDO - 3 Who?

VE - 3 Not as bad of late, but never did dig Moral Crusader types

Legion -6 My first home. Has made some impressive rebounds, found their own identity, & prospered. Good allies too.

RoK - 6 Miss you guys (does the pistol hands)

GATO -5 All right. Sturdy, don't know much else about them though.

CSN - 4 Hardly know them.

Athens - 4 Was a lot higher, don't like some of the more recent stuff.

Gremlins - 5 Some things I like a lot about them, balanced out by the Moral Crusader elements.

MCXA - 5 They're all right.

UPN - 5 They're all right.

RIA - 5 Had been pretty meh, but their guys I met during the war were way cool, lot of fun folks.

STA - 4

Invicta - 5 Have some good guys, might be higher pre-stickmen drama though

RnR - 4 hardly know them

MASH - 6 Respectable, easy to get along with, nice folks.

NADC - 4 Don't know them

WAPA - 5 My dealings with them have been brief but cool. Still, hardly know them.

NV - 6 Very classy

NSO - 6 They interest me greatly, have some cool folks, and are ballsy

NEW - 6 heh, I don't remember what, but they did something I really liked, the impression stuck in my head if not the deed :P

MA - 4 I miss KaitlinK :(

Umbrella - 5 They're all right

FAN - 6 Resilient, good propaganda too

LoSS - 0 Asking for a treaty pre-war, only to pump us for info *right* before a war then drop us, THEN making it sound like we held a gun to their head to get treatied in the first place??? <insert Trash Can icon here>

TSO - 3 I really don't like how they did MCXA.

NATO - 4 I like them okay.

Nordreich - 6 Has some good guys, very pleasant, organized

GR - 4

Vanguard - 6 I don't often agree with them, but they have guts. I am a big fan of guts :P Also, they are good fighters. And they have Thal

GOD - 5 Same as Vanguard, minus the Thal

FoB - 4 Don't really know them

PC - 6 I like them, they are a fun bunch to roll with.

Valhalla - that's mine! <3

GGA - 4 Hardly know them any more. They are all right.

TPF - 6 They're some good folks.

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TOP - 10

MHA - 7

Sparta -8

NpO -6

IRON -5

ODN -5

FARK -5

GPA -3

NPO -5

FOK -5

MK -8

WTF -5

TOOL -5

TDO -5

VE -6

Legion -5

RoK -5

GATO -6

CSN -3

Athens -4

Gremlins -8

MCXA -7

UPN -5

RIA -5

STA -5

Invicta-5

RnR -5

MASH -5

NADC -5

WAPA -4

NV -5

NSO -2

NEW -5

MA -5

Umbrella -10

FAN -6

LoSS -5

TSO -5

NATO -5

Nordreich -4

GR -5

Vanguard -6

GOD -4

FoB -5

PC -7

Valhalla -5

GGA -6

TPF -8

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TOP 8

MHA 7

Sparta 8

NpO 6

IRON 4

ODN 2

FARK 7

GPA 5

NPO 1

FOK 7

MK 9

WTF 5

TOOL 4

TDO 5

VE 7

Legion 5

RoK 7

GATO 5

CSN 5

Athens 6

Gremlins 8

MCXA 5

UPN 1

RIA 3

STA 8

Invicta 2

RnR 7

MASH 5

NADC 5

WAPA 5

NV 9

NSO 6

NEW 4

MA 5

Umbrella 8

FAN 5

LoSS 7

TSO 6

NATO 5

Nordreich 9

GR 9

Vanguard 7

GOD 6

FoB 8

PC 9

Valhalla 3

GGA 4

TPF 1

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I'm a hater.

TOP: 1

MHA: 1

Sparta: 1

NpO: 5

IRON: 6

ODN: 1

FARK: 4

GPA: 9

NPO: 6

FOK 1

MK: 5

WTF: 5

TOOL: 7

TDO: 7

VE: 3

Legion: 6

RoK: 1

GATO: 6

CSN: 6

Athens: 1

Gremlins: 1

MCXA: 7

UPN: 6

RIA: 1

STA: 1

Invicta: 4

RnR: 5

MASH: 5

NADC: 10

WAPA: 8

NV: 7

NSO: 1

NEW: 7

MA: 1

Umbrella: 1

FAN: 5

LoSS: 1

TSO: 4

NATO: 4

Nordreich: 1

GR: 5

Vanguard: 3

GOD: 1

FoB: 3

PC: 3

Valhalla: 7

GGA: 5

TPF: 10

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I'll have a go then, I'm just going to grey out any alliances I don't know anything/care enough about

TOP - There's no point in me rating TOP, bias ahoy.

MHA - 8, This would be an nine, but they are allied to Gramlins, who TOP intends to betray.

Sparta - 4, We just don't seem to see eye to eye after the Karma war. No blame, just fact.

NpO - 6.5, Cause I like honesty and intelligence but also has some @#$% in it. I've given them an extra half point because I don't think there's any real malice behind the hater's hate.

IRON - 9, Joint cool dudes in my eyes.

ODN - 5, I know them but have entirely neutral/bland feelings about them.

FARK - 7, Proper nice folks. Would have a beer with them.

GPA - 2, What's the point of a neutral alliance in a war game. I still feel bad for ganging up on you with NPO and Q though, so have an extra point.

NPO - 2, Yeah, I'm not going to like you guys for a really long time. One + point for a new emperor.

FOK - 9, FOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOKFOK are just awesome.

MK - 6, I'm realistic here, I like MK and I love hanging out with them but we aren't OMGHI2ULOL<3BBFS. And that's the way it is, for now.

WTF

TOOL

TDO

VE - 5, I know them but, as ODN, I have entirely neutral feelings about them.

Legion - 4, I've only just got over GW3 hate of them, they need to be better as an alliance before I could think better of them.

RoK - 6, I feel that given their protraction of certain fronts of the Karma war should make me dislike theses guys... I just don't, so there.

GATO - 4, They seem a pointless empty shell to me.

CSN

Athens - 6, I've got no beef with them and Londo seems a decent fella.

Gremlins - 9, Part time lovers.

MCXA - 5, I've no real opinion on them even though I know them well enough.

UPN - 5, We fought them in Karma and they left no impression.

RIA - 6, They're alright.

STA - 5, We've never seemed to ever be in the same circle of friends and yet have never war-ed one another... I find that a bit odd really.

Invicta - 6, Only because they are named after a radio station in Kent where I grew up. Ironically, "Invicta" means "undefeated"...

RnR - 7, The coolest guys and gals that I know little about (my fault for being lazy I guess).

MASH

NADC - 4, See: GATO

WAPA

NV

NSO - 9, Why wouldn't you like them, really? Could you imagine how boring this life would be without someone manning up to be "the villain" or without someone who does things different? Hurrah for them for breaking out of the dull assembly line. Folks could learn something from them I say.

NEW

MA

Umbrella - 9, If I ever gave up TOP but wanted to stay with the "Citadel stat collector-esque" type alliance, I'd go there.

FAN - 7, I'm hoping new FAN is as good and interesting as old FAN... come on guys, join Frostbite or something?

LoSS - 5, Rather impressionless for someone as old as them.

TSO - 10, Really an eight but I'm going to bump up the average from all the haters out there. I find them good folks, so there.

NATO - 6, I think these folks got the raw-est deal out Q/Karma, so they get a sympathy point.

Nordreich - 5, New Nordreich has done nothing to piss me off. Like most people in the game I have a "Natural Bias" against them, but Medrut was a decent fella and he went to these guys.

Vanguard - 6, We ain't going to be best friends too soon but the treaty cancellation dramas were years ago now, I'm over it.

GOD - 5, Of no personal interest to me, sorry.

FoB

PC - 3, Seems like a grouping of special folks from where I'm sat that has yet to do anything to buck that opinion.

Valhalla - 5, Had a dick of a leader. That leader is now gone, therefore I do not care one way or another about them.

GGA - 4, Oh GGA, will you ever get anything right?

TPF - 5, I rather think they should be rebuilding a bit better/faster, No? Otherwise good luck to them.

Obligatory: My opinions are my own, ok?

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Will add commentary if anybody actually cares for my opinion (which I can't imagine will happen with all of the numbers being fired off in this thread)

And like everybody else, 5 is a neutral one for me; either meaning I don't know enough about them or I like and dislike things about them equally

TOP - 5 - I love the vast majority as individuals but the alliance as a whole is a mystery to me in terms of direction and intentions. I just don't feel comfortable with them yet.

MHA - 4 - Not dynamic enough, seemed to yield indecision during the war.

Sparta - 6 - I like a few of their members, and their political position for the most part, but I don't think they're utilizing their full potential in the slightest.

NpO - 9 - I can never be 100% sure (or even 80%) of what Grub is saying in his posts because they always come off as indirect but I still greatly enjoy him and the alliance and am thankful for our treaty.

IRON - 3 - In simple terms, they moved on from NPO to TOP.

ODN - 9 - Really turned things around and defined their position. Great members and seem to be more active than ever.

FARK - 7 - I respect their alliance's military standards but I don't really know them well enough to give them anything above a 7.

GPA - 4 - Neutral, don't like as much as WTF.

NPO - 1 - Never had a decent experience with them in 3 1/2 years.

FOK - 9 - Got along with them great during the Karma war, and in terms of stats they're not too bad either.

MK - 10 - See final comment

WTF - 5 - Neutral alliance but knew them to a degree back in Atlantis

TOOL - 3 - Don't like their political position, didn't like their early exit in the war, and they're very boring.

TDO - 3 - My least favourite neutral alliance more or less from various comments in the gameplay section.

VE - 4 - For some reason ever since I left VE I've felt a bit funny about them. I really don't know why.

Legion - 5 - Just a general "5"

RoK - 5 - Things seem to be decent between our 2 alliances right now, they have some members I like, and others I don't.

GATO - 5 - Same as Legion.

CSN - 7 - I love them from when I was in Atlantis and they certainly haven't done anything to change that opinion since then.

Athens - 9 - Great members, funny, and C&G.

Gremlins - 8 - Stick to their guts, disciplined, just a bit of instability over the past few months.

MCXA - 6 - I like their leadership since the TSO split.

UPN - 4 - Purple

RIA - 5 - Don't know them very well and they haven't done anything to warrant a +/- in the rating.

STA - 7 - One of our allies I'm least familiar with but they always seem to be in a position I support.

Invicta - 2 - Least favourite purple alliance, largely due to OWF encounters.

RnR - 6 - A decent alliance I'm vaguely familiar with from the Karma war so one step up from average.

MASH - 5 - Really don't know them.

NADC - 5 - see Gato/Legion.

WAPA - 6 - Familiar with from GR and they're pretty alright.

NV - 8 - Love NV, known them since early GR days and I really enjoy their membership.

NSO - 2 - Annoying OWF encounters mostly.

NEW - 9 - Favourite opponent in any war really, and they have great military discipline.

MA - 4 - Have been annoying in the past but nothing exciting lately.

Umbrella - 8 - Wish I was more familiar with them but they're pretty similar to MK and I like the members I do talk to.

FAN - 6 - Respect more than anything got them the step up from a 5.

LoSS - 6 - I like that they weren't afraid to cancel on everybody and start "fresh" a few months ago.

TSO - 3 - Never liked their gov from MCXA.

NATO - 3 - So stagnant I had to go 2 steps down from a 5.

Nordreich - 5 - Don't know them very well.

GR - 9 - My ex alliance, I love the members there, but they weren't ideal for me which is why I'm in MK. See final comment.

Vanguard - 9 - An amazing ally, strong statistics, great members, not enough OWF presence.

GOD - 5 - See RIA.

FoB - 9 - So glad I've gotten to know them over the past few months. They have a young membership base that knows what it's doing.

PC - 8 - Enjoy the times I've gotten to talk to them in our embassy and on IRC. Good nuclear power.

Valhalla - 3 - Only because they've gotten quieter since the Karma war. I don't like who they hang out with and I've never liked the general attitude of the alliance.

GGA - 2 - They've ruined too many chances to become a better alliance.

TPF - 2 - Similar to Valhalla only they haven't quieted down as much.

Avg = 5.64

Yes, I gave out a 10 only to the alliance I'm in, why else would I be there if I didn't feel that way?

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TOP 4

MHA 6

Sparta 7

NpO 5

IRON 2

ODN 3

FARK 8

GPA 4

NPO 7

FOK 5

MK 10

WTF 3

TOOL 2

TDO 2

VE 4

Legion 3

RoK 5

GATO 3

CSN 6

Athens 10

Gremlins 10

MCXA 4

UPN 7

RIA 5

STA 4

Invicta

RnR 9

MASH 9

NADC 5

WAPA 10

NV 7

NSO 4

NEW 6

MA 3

Umbrella 7

FAN 4

LoSS 5

TSO 2

NATO 5

Nordreich 8

GR 4

Vanguard 6

GOD 5

FoB 3

PC 2

Valhalla 7

GGA 5

TPF8

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TOP -6

MHA -5

Sparta-4

NpO -9

IRON -8

ODN -2

FARK -3

GPA -1

NPO -7

FOK -4

MK -4

WTF -1

TOOL -7

TDO-1

VE-5

Legion-5

RoK -5

GATO-7

CSN -5

Athens -3

Gremlins-6

MCXA -5

UPN -8

RIA -6

STA -9

Invicta-6

RnR -8

MASH -7

NADC -5

WAPA -7

NV -6

NSO -10

NEW -6

MA -4

Umbrella-5

FAN-4

LoSS -5

TSO -5

NATO -5

Nordreich- 5

GR -5

Vanguard-5

GOD-3

FoB-5

PC -4

Valhalla-5

GGA -4

TPF-7

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Yay, drai likes us.

TOP -3

MHA -4

Sparta-5

NpO -8

IRON -4

ODN -4

FARK -5

GPA -3

NPO -1

FOK -6

MK -9

WTF -5

TOOL -2

TDO-4

VE-4

Legion-1

RoK -4

GATO-6

CSN -7

Athens -9

Gremlins-5

MCXA -2

UPN -2

RIA -6

STA -8

Invicta-1

RnR -6

MASH -3

NADC -3

WAPA -5

NV -6

NSO -6

NEW -5

MA -5

Umbrella-4

FAN-8

LoSS -5

TSO -1

NATO -2

Nordreich- 6

GR -9

Vanguard-10

GOD-4

FoB-9

PC -7

Valhalla-3

GGA -2

TPF-1

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5 is neutral/little contact and such, blah di blah.

TOP: 6

MHA: 4

Sparta: 3

NpO: 7

IRON: 6

ODN: 2

FARK: 4

GPA: 5 (Neutral vote for a neutral alliance. :v:)

NPO: 8

FOK: 7 (:wub: Tromp)

MK: 5

WTF: 4

TOOL: 5

TDO: 3

VE: 3

Legion: 7

RoK: 3

GATO: 6

CSN: 4

Athens: 4

Gremlins: 5

MCXA: 5

UPN: 5

RIA: 5

STA: 4

Invicta: 9 (No alliance is perfect, sorry Jor, I can't give you a 10. :P)

RnR: 5

MASH: 6

NADC: 5

WAPA: 5

NV: 5

NSO: 7

NEW: 5

MA: 4

Umbrella: 5

FAN: 5

LoSS: 4

TSO: 1

NATO: 5

Nordreich: 5

GR: 5

Vanguard: 3

GOD: 3

FoB: 3

PC: 2

Valhalla: 6

GGA: 2

TPF: 7

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TOP - 8

MHA - 9

Sparta - 7

NpO - 2

IRON - 6

ODN - 1

FARK - 7

GPA - 4

NPO - 2

FOK - 5

MK - 4

WTF - 4

TOOL - 2

TDO - 6

VE - 4

Legion - 2

RoK - 5

GATO - 1

CSN - 4

Athens - 2

Grämlins - 9

MCXA - 5

UPN - 4

RIA - 3

STA - 1

Invicta - 1

RnR - 4

MASH - 5

NADC - 4

WAPA - 2

NV - 5

NSO - 1

NEW - 2

MA - 4

Umbrella - 9

FAN - 3

LoSS - 2

TSO - 7

NATO - 4

Nordreich - 1

GR - 3

Vanguard - 1

GOD - 1

FoB - 2

PC - 6

Valhalla - 3

GGA - 1

TPF - 1

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NPO - 10

Sparta - 1

FOK - 2

VE - 1

RoK - 1

Athens - 6

Gremlins - 3

RnR - 3

MA - 1

LoSS - 1

GR - 3

Vanguard - 2

My scores are a combination of how much I know/like them, and how well they play the game.

Average: 4.375

i think its more based on wishful thinking, after all it was your 10 that fell to all those 1's and 2's.

now my list, 5's being dont know anything about them:

TOP 8 in the top spot for a reason

MHA 5 i like the theme, but dont know much else

Sparta 6 underrated by being called overrated

NpO 8 scary amount of nukes over a scary ns range

IRON 4 rebounded very well from the war, not fans of how much they hate us though

ODN 4 seem like nice people, dont know too much about them lately

FARK 7 very cool people, but they dont share enough beer with me

GPA 4 neutral loses points, green gains them

NPO 4 some of them are cool people. many are tools and sore losers

FOK 10 i love me some dutchmen

MK 8 gain 10 points for babyjesus, lose 2 for stealing john michaels

WTF 2 neutral and not green

TOOL 3 cant put my finger on it, just dont appeal to me

TDO 2 ditto

VE 10 gain 20 points for me, lose 10 for impero

Legion 2 i feel theyre overrated in this ranking

RoK 9 dedicated fighters, great allies

GATO 8 mint chocolate

CSN 7 cool people overall

Athens 6 lose 2 because i hate their forum structure

Gremlins 8 sexy people

MCXA 3 not impressed by anything theyve done since the karma war

UPN 5 one of the better alliances on purple

RIA 9 awesome people, lose 1 because im317 left :(

STA 8 keep to themselves, but do it respectably

Invicta 1 Purp(1)e failures

RnR 6 cool people

MASH 6 read UPN

NADC 5 who

WAPA 5 what

NV 8 awesome people, hizzy is cool

NSO 8 <3 lint

NEW 5 where

MA 6 cool people

Umbrella 6 cool elitist people

FAN 7 - cool take no crap from anyone people

LoSS 5 not too familiar

TSO 2 lol

NATO 4

Nordreich 4

GR 6 cool people but makes it annoying finding people with trade resources and 'green' so -1

Vanguard 7 very cool people

GOD 10 very amazingly excellent people

FoB 7 cool people

PC 4 pink

Valhalla 3 purple

GGA 5 lot of work ahead of them

TPF 1 :rofl:

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i think its more based on wishful thinking, after all it was your 10 that fell to all those 1's and 2's.

Of course it's biased and what do you mean by wishful thinking? It is his opinion and he expressed it as such, would you rather prevent him from participating in this thread?

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Of course it's biased and what do you mean by wishful thinking? It is his opinion and he expressed it as such, would you rather prevent him from participating in this thread?

it was more of a joke than anything on my part, i wouldnt ask anything less than a little bias in this thread. i just found it very funny personally to see all sorts of 1s in his post.

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TOP -5

MHA -5

Sparta-4

NpO -10

IRON -7

ODN -2

FARK -6

GPA -1

NPO -7

FOK -6

MK -7

WTF -1

TOOL -4

TDO-1

VE-7

Legion-3

RoK -5

GATO-7

CSN -5

Athens -4

Gremlins-6

MCXA -3

UPN -5

RIA -5

STA -10

Invicta-6

RnR -5

MASH -4

NADC -2

WAPA -2

NV -6

NSO -10

NEW -5

MA -5

Umbrella-6

FAN-7

LoSS -5

TSO -1

NATO -3

Nordreich- 4

GR -4

Vanguard-4

GOD-4

FoB-4

PC -1

Valhalla-3

GGA -2

TPF-5

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