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I only read the OP so far (thread comes later) so please forgive me if the discussion has moved away. Also sorry for re-arranging your list Azaghul...

1: Sparta (trade circles!); WTF + TOOL + TDO (I know nothing of them, also boring); Nordreich + Valhalla + GGA + TPF (heh)

2: Legion + UPN + NEW + MA + TSO + NATO (I know nothing of them)

3: IRON (some annoying posters); CSN + MCXA + Invicta + RnR + MASH + NADC (I remember their names)

4: GPA + NPO + RoK + VE + PC (I know nothing of them)

5: Athens (Diorno...); NSO (for the recruitment of me); GR (memories?)

6: MHA (I do not know them); ODN (same, but some nice people); GOD + Vanguard + FoB (for different memories)

7: FOK + WAPA (sensible timezone); LoSS (for old memories); NV (for some posters)

8: NpO (I had a bit of fun there); RIA + STA (seems nice); FAN (nice people)

9: FARK (from sweet memories); MK (dropped a place from that Trevor!); Gremlins (nice people)

10: TOP (I had a great time there); GATO (for giving me my own flag); Umbrella (goddess of Black)

I know that my list is strangely negative (sorry) but this is from my limited perspective -- I am not involved in any politics and am lazy in these political chambers etc, so really what I have to go on is Team Colour, old membership, and if I happen to remember some one's Alliance from IRC.

Ooops I see the poster above is already talking about commentariy so I am glad that I chose to make my list this way.

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TOP 10

MHA 8

Sparta 5

NpO 7

IRON 9

ODN 5

FARK 7

GPA 5

NPO 5

FOK 9

MK 8

WTF 5

TOOL 5

TDO 5

VE 3

Legion 6

RoK 5

GATO 5

CSN 2

Athens 3

Gremlins 9

MCXA 4

UPN 5

RIA 4

STA 5

Invicta 4

RnR 7

MASH 5

NADC 5

WAPA 5

NV 5

NSO 5

NEW 6

MA 2

Umbrella 9

FAN 6

LoSS 4

TSO 8

NATO 5

Nordreich 5

GR 5

Vanguard 5

GOD 3

FoB 2

PC 7

Valhalla 5

GGA 3

TPF 5

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TOP - 3

MHA - 5

Sparta - 5

NpO - 8

IRON - 1

ODN - 9

FARK - 5

GPA - 7

NPO - 2

FOK - 8

MK - 9

WTF - 5

TOOL - 3

TDO - 5

VE - 5

Legion - 6

RoK - 7

GATO - 9

CSN - 7

Athens - 7

Gremlins - 5

MCXA - 5

UPN - 5

RIA - 5

STA - 7

Invicta - 1

RnR - 7

MASH - 5

NADC - 4

WAPA - 5

NV - 3

NSO - 1

NEW - 7

MA - 5

Umbrella - 4

FAN - 8

LoSS -5

TSO - 2

NATO - 5

Nordreich - 4

GR - 8

Vanguard - 9

GOD - 5

FoB - 5

PC - 4

Valhalla - 3

GGA - 5

TPF - 1

... :( No commies on the list :( = INT - 9

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1 - Invicta, TSO, GGA,

2 - TPF, Valhalla, NPO

3 - IRON

4 - GOD, Legion, UPN, NADC, LoSS, NATO

5 - TDO, GPA, WTF, Sparta, TOP (A lot of members I like moved there, otherwise it would have been a lot lower), ODN, TOOL, FOK, Athens, MCXA, RnR, MASH, NEW, MA, Nordreich

6 - NpO, MHA, VE, NSO, WAPA, FAN, Gr, PC

7 - RoK, RIA, NV, Umbrella, Vangaurd

8 - MK, GATO, STA

9 - Gremlins, FARK (need to get out more!), CSN

10 No ones perfect.

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TOP - 7

MHA - 5

Sparta - 6

NpO - 4

IRON - 4

ODN - 6

FARK - 9

GPA - 5

NPO - 1

FOK - 10

MK - 8

WTF - 5

TOOL - 3

TDO - 6

VE - 8

Legion - 3

RoK - 6

GATO - 6

CSN - 8

Athens - 5

Gremlins - 7

MCXA - 3

UPN - 5

RIA - 7

STA - 5

Invicta - 1

RnR - 8

MASH - 6

NADC - 5

WAPA - 5

NV - 6

NSO - 3

NEW - 5

MA - 6

Umbrella - 7

FAN - 5

LoSS - 5

TSO - 5

NATO - 3

Nordreich - 2

GR - 6

Vanguard - 8

GOD - 7

FoB - 5

PC - 7

Valhalla - 3

GGA - 1

TPF - 1

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FCO - 10

SLCB - 10

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TOP 9 ... Cool heads, underrated by most, they rock.

MHA 10 ... Fun, discussion, democracy, level-headed, friendly, (almost) never hold grudges, alcohol.

Sparta 8 ... People with common sense and pride.

NpO 8 ... First class organization, good leadership, mostly reasonable.

IRON 7 ... Stark fighters.

ODN 5

FARK 8 ... Fierce and funny, crazy, alcohol.

GPA 10 ... Class, a lot of it.

NPO 6 ... Organized, they improved and are a bit underrated.

FOK 8 ... Good friends.

MK 8 ... Aqua, fun, artwork, organization, fairness...

WTF 5

TOOL 5 ... Never seemed more or less than average to me.

TDO 9 ... Class, only a bit less than GPA.

VE 6 ... Did some great things (ZIPP) and good fighters, but sometimes they really get it wrong (&, OV internal drama).

Legion 5

RoK 8 ... Good friends, great leadership.

GATO 8 ... Endurance, community, reasonability.

CSN 5

Athens 7 ... I like Londo.

Gremlins 10 ... Everything they do is perfect. Ahead of anybody else.

MCXA 5 ... Never did anything so much exciting/good, but they survived the loss of their leadership.

UPN 5

RIA 4 ... Ok the fun, but they don't seem to look at the consequences of anything.

STA 7 ... Don't give up when their friends are in need. Proud leadership.

Invicta 8 ... Organized, good fighters, Haflinger.

RnR 5

MASH 5

NADC 7 ... Cool people.

WAPA 4 ... Aggressive but without the "numbers" (=/= NS) to do so.

NV 7 ... Loyal, cool, reasonable people.

NSO 7 ... Some disputable actions (neutrals, RIA stupid war) but expert leadership and funny OW presence. Got +1 because of RV.

NEW 5

MA 5

Umbrella 8 ... Organized, cool, good friends.

FAN 7 ... Funny, endurance at its most, announcements, bad juju.

LoSS 5

TSO 4 ... Disputable actions at their origins and nothing excellent since then.

NATO 8 ... Cool heads, underrated by most, excellent leadership and diplomacy.

Nordreich 5

GR 6 ... They side with people I generally like.

Vanguard 4 ... They never seem to be able to be friendly: lack of smiles...

GOD 1 ... LoFN war - would have assigned a -99, honestly. Xiph is silly.

FoB 5

PC 4 ... Like WAPA, but somewhat worse.

Valhalla 7 ... Awesome theme, Kryievla, Buds, Hal.

GGA 5 ... Improved, but still have to prove something.

TPF 5

(5 - in grey - to all the ones I know too little to judge.)

You seem to have us confused with RAD, who is now Bel Air.

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TOP 7

MHA 7

Sparta 7

NpO 6

IRON 5

ODN 4

FARK 9

GPA 6

NPO 4

FOK 9

MK 8

WTF 6

TOOL 5

TDO 5

VE 8

Legion 5

RoK 7

GATO 6

CSN 6

Athens 7

Gremlins 5

MCXA 5

UPN 6

RIA 7

STA 6

Invicta 5

RnR 7

MASH 7

NADC 6

WAPA 6

NV 7

NSO 4

NEW 8

MA 6

Umbrella 7

FAN 7

LoSS 6

TSO 5

NATO 5

Nordreich 4

GR 7

Vanguard 8

GOD 6

FoB 6

PC 7

Valhalla 5

GGA 4

TPF 4

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TOP - 5 - Some good people there, but they shield TSO, which brings them down significantly.

MHA - 2 - When was the last time they really did anything? They also seem a bit sloppy for an alliance of their size.

Sparta - 1 - lolSparta

NpO - 9 - Some real stand-up folks in Polar, and fairly well organized.

IRON - 7 - There are some good peeps in IRON, and their upper tier isn't an easy nut to crack.

ODN - 1 - Do I even have to elaborate?

FARK - 2 - They do lulz alright, but not much else.

GPA - 7 - One of my best friends in CN is there, but other than that, <_< Neutral Menace <_<

NPO - 4 - I don't like them, but they are probably the most driven alliance out there.

FOK - 1 - During my time on orange, FOK always came off as stand-offish, and generally seemed to frown upon the principles of OUT

MK - 10 - Militarily strong, very active and fun community, and great protectors.

WTF - 5 - Don't really know them

TOOL - 6 - Mia is great. Their obsession with cruise missiles brings them down a bit, though

TDO - 5 - Don't really know them

VE - 1 - VE has always come off as having the desire to try to lord over others, but they generally don't have the competency to do so

Legion - 5 - Don't really know them too much, but they have probably improved over how they used to be.

RoK - 5 - Don't know them too well.

GATO - 7 - They keep mostly to themselves lately, but they are a good group of people, and their longevity speaks for itself.

CSN - 2 - Very stand-offish

Athens - 5 - Don't know them too well

Gremlins - 5 - Don't know them too well

MCXA - 6 - Got a lot better after TSO split from them. Proof of the theory of addition by subtraction.

UPN - 7 - Good, level-headed people there

RIA - 4 - some of their leadership have overly large egos

STA - 3 - Never really been a fan

Invicta - 5 - Not the best alliance on purple, but far from the worst

RnR - 5 - Don't really know them too well

MASH - 5 - Don't know them too well

NADC - 5 - Don't know them too well

WAPA - 3 - Never been fond of them, going back to my time on White.

NV - 5 - Don't know them too well

NSO - 4 - They're big on pushing the envelope, so I'll give them credit there. It does come off as simply too much, sometimes.

NEW - 7 - Probably the best fighters on white, and they love a good fight, no matter the odds

MA - 4 - Would have rated higher, but KaitlinK was the main person I talked to there, and I don't much like CptGodzilla

Umbrella - 6 - Seem like good, competent people

FAN - 8 - Gun pron and good fighters

LoSS - 1 - Beware those who are treaties with LoSS, because when the next big war comes around, they'll probably 'restructure' again

TSO - 1 - One of the worst alliances in existence

NATO - 5 - Don't know them too well

Nordreich - 5 - Don't know them too well

GR - 5 - Don't know them too well

Vanguard - 5 - Don't know them too well

GOD - 1 - Led by a man who exemplifies what is wrong in CN

FoB - 6 - Seem like a fun community

PC - 5 - Don't know them too well

Valhalla - 7 - My favorite purple alliance, with a lot of cool people

GGA - 2 - One of the least competent alliances ever

TPF - 7 - They've been great to a number of small alliances, and they are decent fighters

Average excluding the ones I don't know too well: 4.34

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If I didn't know you much, or just have absolutely no opinion on you, I pretty much just gave you a four.

TOP - 7

MHA - 6

Sparta - 3

NpO - 8

IRON - 8

ODN - 4

FARK - 5

GPA - 4

NPO - 7

FOK - 7

MK - 3

WTF - 4

TOOL - 8

TDO - 5

VE - 4

Legion - 6

RoK - 4

GATO - 4

CSN - 5

Athens - 1

Gremlins - 7

MCXA - 6

UPN - 4

RIA - 4

STA - 3

Invicta - 4

RnR - 4

MASH - 4

NADC - 9 <3

WAPA - 8

NV - 7

NSO - 6

NEW - 4

MA - 4

Umbrella - 4

FAN - 4

LoSS - 4

TSO - 4

NATO - 5

Nordreich - 7

GR - 6

Vanguard - 4

GOD - 4

FoB - 3

PC - 1

Valhalla - 5

GGA - 4

TPF - 10 <33

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My own opinions that I have formulated in the last 1196 days of CN. Alliances rated at 5 are ones that I do know/or have no opinion.

TOP - 10 - My home

MHA - 8 - Good people, sound government

Sparta - 5

NpO - 7 - huge respect for the incredible turnaround since the war of the coalition.

IRON - 9 - see MHA

ODN - 6 - fun, nice general membership.

FARK - 7 - quality government, know little about their general membership

GPA - 3 - Just don't understand the point of neutrals.

NPO - 6 - Great history, and play their role well.

FOK - 8 - see MHA/IRON

MK - 4 - we play the game differently

WTF - 5

TOOL - 5

TDO - 3 - see GPA

VE - 4 - Just not the same VE I remember from the WUT days.

Legion - 6 - Good memories from my time in GATO and coming to our aid in GWIII.

RoK - 4 - Would have been a 5, but after Gen Lee going rogue it left a sour taste unfortunately.

GATO - 8 - My first home, great memories from the three great wars.

CSN - 5

Athens - 3 - Particular members who bring a bad impression to the rest of the alliance.

Gremlins - 8 - Great guys, who have lost some of my favourite members.

MCXA - 3 - not that positive after the TSO affair and reading the logs.

UPN - 6 - respect after fighting their members in the karma war

RIA - 6 - I respect their leadership from the debates I have read.

STA - 4 - Not sure why, just always seen them in the shadow of Polar.

Invicta - 5

RnR - 7 - great government, good membership

MASH - 5

NADC - 5

WAPA - 7 - great people who don't mind risking their pixels.

NV - 4 - Don't know them well, but I have a more negative opinion for some reason.

NSO - 6 - Came to change things, haven't succeeded imo but props for having balls.

NEW - 5

MA - 2 - Astronaut Jones

Umbrella - 9 - Great government, great general membership. Active, intelligent, and fun.

FAN - 7 - You have to admire FAN for still being around.

LoSS - 5

TSO - 8 - Great allies

NATO - 5

Nordreich - 4 - been there, done that. Denmark belongs to TOP! ;)

GR - 5

Vanguard - 2 - meh

GOD - 4 - Less than positive view after Karma.

FoB - 5

PC - 5

Valhalla - 4 - distant memories of nowedge *shudders*

GGA - 2 - ...words needed?

TPF - 5

:edit: average is 6.476

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TOP - 4

MHA - 4

Sparta - 2

NpO - 7

IRON - 6

ODN - 5

FARK - 8

GPA - 5

NPO - 5

FOK - 6

MK - 8

WTF - 4

TOOL - 5

TDO - 2

VE - 2

Legion - 3

RoK - 4

GATO - 6

CSN - 5

Athens - 6

Gremlins - 7

MCXA - 2

UPN - 3

RIA - 6

STA - 9

Invicta - 3

RnR - 5

MASH - 5

NADC - 4

WAPA - 6

NV - 8

NSO - 7

NEW - 7

MA - 4

Umbrella - 6

FAN - 8

LoSS - 7

TSO - 1

NATO - 2

Nordreich - 6

GR - 7

Vanguard - 9

GOD - 4

FoB - 6

PC - 7

Valhalla - 3

GGA - 1

TPF - 4

Most 5s are people I just don't know enough about to give an accurate rating. Far too lazy/busy to do comments, may add some later.

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People I have little contact with I gave a middle score (like 5), and I focused more on people I knew well. Top of the list is TOP and Umbrella which are two alliances, in my opinion, that display the highest levels of quality in quality of character and likability.

TOP 10

MHA 6

Sparta 6

NpO 3

IRON 7

ODN 4

FARK 6

GPA 5

NPO 7

FOK 6

MK 4

WTF 6

TOOL 5

TDO 5

VE 4

Legion 6

RoK 5

GATO 4

CSN 5

Athens 4

Gremlins 7

MCXA 6

UPN 6

RIA 4

STA 4

Invicta 5

RnR 5

MASH 6

NADC 7

WAPA 5

NV 4

NSO 3

NEW 5

MA 4

Umbrella 9

FAN 4

LoSS 2

TSO 1 (they murder kittens for fun. )): Not cool. )

NATO 6

Nordreich 3

GR 4

Vanguard 4

GOD 2

FoB 5

PC 5

Valhalla 6

GGA 6

TPF 7

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TOP 7 Much respect for guys like Crymson, Dr Dan, Timberland, the guy with the b I can't spell.

MHA 2

Sparta 1

NpO 7

IRON 8

ODN 2

FARK 2

GPA 5

NPO 8

FOK 3 - Pretty much only ones that left that were honest with us in Q

MK 1 (would be a 6 if I could forget azaghul was there)

WTF 5

TOOL 9

TDO 5

VE 2

Legion 5

RoK 4

GATO 5

CSN 5

Athens 1

Gremlins 6

MCXA 6

UPN 6

RIA 3

STA 4 (Giving white peace to ml was good, no idea why they act like I oppressed them somehow though.)

Invicta 7

RnR 4

MASH 2

NADC 5

WAPA 5

NV 6

NSO 7

NEW 9

MA 2

Umbrella 6 (I was pretty upset with the whole gov members in blackstone, but they showed they are quality with treatment of Val)

FAN 6

LoSS 1 Demanding last minute intel after they had already canceled treaty, but didnt tell us.. then switching sides..

TSO 5

NATO 6

Nordreich 5

GR 5

Vanguard 5 I really hate these guys, but they were always honest and I can respect that.

GOD 1 extremely petty behavior

FoB 4

PC 1 Constant lies

Valhalla 7

GGA 1 They jumped the shark during the war.

TPF 10 :P

ML 10

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I've had limited contact with quite a few of the alliances on the list, in those cases, I will tend to lower the score a bit more than otherwise, I hope nobody takes it personally.

TOP - 5 (Impressive stats, clearly organized, but I'm not sure about their fighting dedication)

MHA - 4 (Holy members batman, recruit more. I like the vogon poetry, needs more organization though)

Sparta 4 (Large alliance, didn't inflict as much damage as it should have in Karma)

NpO 7 (Took their beating, bounced back, also, +:nuke:)

IRON 5 (Fought well in most KW engagements, nice regrowth since.)

ODN 6 (Boo Arsenal)

FARK 7 (One of the best blitzes of the KW, cool people)

GPA 3 (Neutral, meh, but seems like they know what they're doing)

NPO 1

FOK 6 (Organized, nice guys, and also, Ome Harry)

MK 8 (Godliest Second Godliest military on bob)

WTF 3 (I've got nothing)

TOOL 3

TDO 5 (If they could hold onto members I would be impressed)

VE 4 (Seems like a nice enough group)

Legion 4 (They held up their treaties in the war, which is more than some can say)

RoK 6 (They took a hell of a beating in the KW, and fought well, seem to be bouncing back)

GATO 4

CSN 4

Athens 6 (The new merger kings?)

Gremlins 5 (What's with the MHA love, when do you guys merge anyways?)

MCXA 3 (What was with the mid war split in membership?

UPN 4

RIA 5 (A good core of members who have been around the bloc and know their stuff)

STA 5 (Seem like good allies and friends to FB)

Invicta 3

RnR 4

MASH 4

NADC 4

WAPA 4

NV 3

NSO 6 (Certainly an interesting group, they always help feed the drama machine)

NEW 4

MA 3 (They really need to right that sinking ship quickly)

Umbrella 3

FAN (Won't vote for my own alliance, though I would obviously put us at the top)

LoSS 6 (Worked well in the KW)

TSO 3

NATO 4

Nordreich 4

GR 3

Vanguard 4

GOD 5

FoB 5

PC 5 (Impressive nuke counts)

Valhalla 5

GGA 2

TPF 5 (They fought well)

At the end, I knew little about most of the listed alliances, so I simply left commentary blank.

Edit:

FAN- 6 Aren't around as much as they should be
I've been out f the loop for a while so my rating may be a little dated, but I'll give this a shot.

FAN 8 (why so quiet FAN?)

We're around, I assure you, I just like to lurk. You should stop by and visit on IRC.

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TOP - 3

MHA - 7

Sparta - 6

NpO - 6

IRON - 5

ODN - 5

FARK - 8

GPA - 5

NPO - 5

FOK - 6

MK - 4

WTF - 5

TOOL - 7

TDO - 6

VE - 6

Legion - 5

RoK - 7

GATO - 5

CSN - 7

Athens - 7

Gremlins - 7

MCXA - 5

UPN - 2

RIA - 7

STA - 5

Invicta - 1

RnR - 6

MASH - 5

NADC - 4

WAPA - 6

NV - 5

NSO - 3

NEW - 5

MA - 5

Umbrella - 4

FAN - 7

LoSS - 4

TSO - 5

NATO - 3

Nordreich - 5

GR - 5

Vanguard - 5

GOD - 3

FoB - 5

PC - 2

Valhalla - 4

GGA - 3

TPF - 1

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Sparta 1

MK 1 (would be a 6 if I could forget azaghul was there)

Athens 1

LoSS 1 Demanding last minute intel after they had already canceled treaty, but didnt tell us.. then switching sides..

GOD 1 extremely petty behavior

PC 1 Constant lies

GGA 1 They jumped the shark during the war.

Welp, barring LoSS, I'd treaty all those alliances.

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I note we have the highest rating of the alliances you fought, not sure what to make of it.

TOP - 6 - I see the good and bad in TOP, if nothing esle they're good at what they do.

MHA - 4 - Would be lower if I didn't have some nice memories.

Sparta - 8 - Great people, what flak they get is largely undeserved.

NpO - / - Over the last year+ my opinion has been a roller coaster, not sure how to rate.

IRON - 4 - Despite inherent strengths they've never stood out.

ODN - 7 - Largely underrated.

FARK - 8 - More alliances should be as good as Fark.

GPA - / - No opinion, might as well not exist.

NPO - 2 - Where do they find some of those guys?

FOK - 6 - Seem alright.

MK - 10 - Is everything an alliance should be. Nearly perfect.

WTF - / - No opinion.

TOOL - 3 - Mediocre at best.

TDO - / - No opinion, might as well not exist.

VE - 6 - Mixed bag, might be higher if not for Hell Scream and Fran

Legion - 1 - Can't think of one good thing.

RoK - 6 - Mixed bag.

GATO - 7 - Impressive growth.

CSN - 7 - A lot to like.

Athens - 9 - Very high quality alliance, wouldn't rate any lower if we weren't butt buds.

Gremlins - 8 - Great people, not sure who's all left though.

MCXA - 2 - Should have used the TSO opportunity to disband with some sympathy and dignity.

UPN - 3 - Don't seem to have a drive towards anything.

RIA - 6 - Might rate higher if I knew better.

STA - 6 - Might rate higher if I knew better.

Invicta - 2 - Current and former home of some hilarious people.

RnR - / - No opinion.

MASH - 6 - Athens likes them, can't think of anything else.

NADC - 3 - Mediocre at best.

WAPA - / - Mixed bag.

NV - 6 - Seem alright.

NSO - 2 - Not very likable, but that's probably the point.

NEW - 8 - Would like to get to know them.

MA - / - Would have been able to rate a couple months ago.

Umbrella - 9 - Very quality alliance.

FAN - 8 - Seem to be on the rise, might have the best growth rate of anyone post war.

LoSS - / - No strong opinion.

TSO - 1 - :3

NATO - 3 - Mediocre at best.

Nordreich - 6 - Seem pretty competent.

GR - 9 - Wonderful people and allies. -Shamed probably the classiest C&G alliance.

Vanguard - 9 - P cool.

GOD - 7 - If nothing else you always know where they stand.

FoB - 7 - Could use some improvement in a few areas.

PC - 9 - What I'd like my alliance to be in a year.

Valhalla - 2 - Can't think of anything good.

GGA - / - I'm surprised I'm not giving a negative rating.

TPF - 3 - Would be higher if not for the pity parties.

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5 = don't know/don't care either way, like with most people's.

TOP 5

MHA 5

Sparta 6

NpO 7

IRON 3

ODN -

FARK 5

GPA 5

NPO 2

FOK 5

MK 9

WTF 5

TOOL 4

TDO 5

VE 5

Legion 4

RoK 6

GATO 8

CSN 6

Athens 7

Gremlins 6

MCXA 4

UPN 6

RIA 5

STA 6

Invicta 3

RnR 7

MASH 4

NADC 5

WAPA 4

NV 5

NSO 4

NEW 5

MA 6

Umbrella 6

FAN 7

LoSS 4

TSO 5

NATO 5

Nordreich 4

GR 8

Vanguard 8

GOD 5

FoB 6

PC 5

Valhalla 3

GGA 5

TPF 4

Avg 6.333

Most of mine are 4, 5, or 6. :|

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