Botha Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 But if we're staying as 27 then it would seem harsh on the Tercera teams that have to be relegated to make the 4th div. On the surface it would suck to be moved down a division, but for a manager in for the long haul, those teams demoted would likely benefit from playing weaker competition and the longterm benefits from a good progress report as their players finally get to win some matches, somthing most of those demoted team would not have been experiencing. It's a lot easier to keep form up when you win, and we all know the benefit of high form throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierApex Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Much thanks Kevinho. 3 divisions? 9 Teams per division, what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 3 divisions? 9 Teams per division, what do you guys think? Why not... it would be the first time ever that we haven't seen a change in format. That's a good sign of stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Empire Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I don't know, if we must have 9x3 then okay... but I'd prefer 4x8. 9 teams is 18 weeks... while 8 teams is 14 weeks. Surely we can find 5 managers in the next four weeks we can save on four weeks in the long haul... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierApex Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I highly doubt we can bring in 5 additional managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I highly doubt we can bring in 5 additional managers. Like I have asked before, what is up with the 3 inactive teams? Reactivate them and let them play out managerless as fodder teams to pad the league numbers. That way we only need 2 more managers (which is do-able compared to finding 5 brand-new managers). Then next season those managerless teams can be removed when new clubs join or if new managers want to come onboard during Season 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Like I have asked before, what is up with the 3 inactive teams? Reactivate them and let them play out managerless as fodder teams to pad the league numbers. That way we only need 2 more managers (which is do-able compared to finding 5 brand-new managers). Then next season those managerless teams can be removed when new clubs join or if new managers want to come onboard during Season 7. We have 30 teams. Leave those three clubs to boost the fortunes of the rest. But, if we cannot find two clubs, let's just play with the thirty clubs in three divisions. It was a lot of fun last season, and things went right to the wire in all divisions. Let's not break a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voobaha Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 We have 30 teams. Leave those three clubs to boost the fortunes of the rest. But, if we cannot find two clubs, let's just play with the thirty clubs in three divisions. It was a lot of fun last season, and things went right to the wire in all divisions. Let's not break a good thing. Might as well go with 30 if we can't get to 32... it wont stretch the season out any more than running 3x9 did, it'll just eliminate the bye week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierApex Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 so 3x10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Might as well go with 30 if we can't get to 32... it wont stretch the season out any more than running 3x9 did, it'll just eliminate the bye week. This. Starting this season I'd suggest that we don't deactivate teams just because they are inactive. We use the abandoned teams to get the league to 32 for next season (or a workable team/division set-up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Empire Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 3x10? That'd give us 18 weeks. I don't think it's out of reason to dedicate a few days to shorten the season length from 18 weeks to 14 weeks with a 4x8 set-up. Can't we just re-activate two dead teams and use them to fill up numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Can't we just re-activate two dead teams and use them to fill up numbers? 30 teams includes the dead teams. Right now we have 27 actives and 3 inactives. So to get 32 teams we'd need to find another 2 managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinho Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I'd say simply include the active teams only and get on with the season. If we play with inactive teams taking a beating every week then the league's ranking will suffer, surely? Is there any sign of anyone signing up shortly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 If you guys want another manager I'd be up for it, someone would just have to tell me what to do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 If we play with inactive teams taking a beating every week then the league's ranking will suffer, surely? And league ranking concerns us how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 And league ranking concerns us how? I'm not too concerned with rankings, but having inactive teams mean that they're little more than punching bags... and that kind of takes the fun out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinho Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 And league ranking concerns us how? I thought we all wanted to be the best X11 players we could be? The quality of the league is part of that, surely? Anyway have bumped my link on the MHA forums to see if any further interest can be drummed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I thought we all wanted to be the best X11 players we could be? The quality of the league is part of that, surely?Anyway have bumped my link on the MHA forums to see if any further interest can be drummed up. And stalling for this freaking long simply drives good X11 players away. Seriously, it's a good thing I had signed up for other leagues because if I hadn't, I already would have deleted my team and deactivated my account. This wait is getting ridiculous. Just start the !@#$@#$ season already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierApex Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I could only active 2 of the 3 inactive teams, it looks like franzharia is out of luck - which brings our total of 29 teams, 3x10? or 4x8? we would have a lop sided division, but it will do. Vote in the xpert11 liga league forums please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Punching bags in the bottom divisions won't harm anyone. Franzharia is a VIP team so there's probably why you can't re-activate them. With 29 I'd say opt for the 3 divisions now and next season we aim for 30-32 teams and make any divisional changes then. At least we all know there is the potential to go to 4 divisions in the near future - so no one is surprised by it when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Let's do this already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremierApex Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) I am able to choose a CL-style set-up for the league instead of the originial 1:1...This is what it said: "CL is a league system played as a tournament with qualifying rounds in groups and finals from quarter finals in the end. It works almost UEFA Champions League." This sounds like what Liga Mundo need. Thoughts? This would eliminate relegation/promotion, and it seems to be an all out competition to see who is the best overall club from any division Edited November 16, 2009 by PremierApex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Why do we need to keep changing things? Liga Mundo has great teams. Why can't we just get a format and stick with it instead of changing things every single year. It makes it frustrating beyond belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinho Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 If we went for a CL system, then any player eliminated in the first round would have to sit it out for half the season. Like Pravus, I really fail to see why we have to keep changing things. I am a member of two other player created leagues and they ended their season recently, kept the format exactly the same and pressed ahead...hey, why don't we consider 5x6? That would give us the maximum amount of divisions and a very quick season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) hey, why don't we consider 5x6? That would give us the maximum amount of divisions and a very quick season 6 team divisions only work if 1) it is done from Day 1; and / or 2) all the teams in the league are fairly similar in talent. But with 3 dominant and 1 semi-dominant team in LM, the Primera would be next to impossible for the remaining teams to stay up. The 2 promotion slots would be a constant revolving door. Every season we have new teams joining; those would suffer the most in a 6-team format. Also 6-team divisions make development very difficult as each game in such a short season means so much that one cannot risk playing their prospects. Hopefully we are reaching the point in our numbers that we can start stablising the league format. Edited November 17, 2009 by Botha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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