Subtleknifewielder Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) OOC: It's his own bloody topic...you think he'd be more aware of it. IC: "This war has nothing to do with the Confederacy. This began long before you signed your treaty with Greece." Edited November 2, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Subtle: He is my ally I can call upon him if I need him is that not so? and to be perfectly honest I did think we had a cease fire thenb is right, turns out we did not have the ceasefireand my troops will now be attacking if they are ordered as such(depends on V's move here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Subtle: He is my ally I can call upon him if I need him is that not so? and to be perfectly honest I did think we had a cease fire thenb is right, turns out we did not have the ceasefireand my troops will now be attacking if they are ordered as such(depends on V's move here) OOC: OK, please, for the love of God, label which parts are OOC and which are IC there. I can't respond properly otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: that was technically OOC but it still holds aright, I wont complain if you bring an ally into a conflict as you have just for the sake of trying to make me look bad(or so it looks like to me) so please I've done nothing to you, dont involve yourself with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: that was technically OOC but it still holds aright, I wont complain if you bring an ally into a conflict as you have just for the sake of trying to make me look bad(or so it looks like to me) so please I've done nothing to you, dont involve yourself with this. OOC: wait...you tell me you won't complain if i bring an ally into this...and yet tell me not to involve myself. Which is it? And it has nothing to do with how I feel about you OOC-ly; my comment was completely IC, so I would appreciate you responding IC-ly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 IC: Greece is allied with the Mozambique Confederacy and holds a MADP with them; therefore if Greece calls upon the Confederacy for aid they are going to reply in kind. OOC:Subtle, you are Indonesia correct; as far as I know Indonesia has no interests in any way shape or form in this conflict(maybe I am wrong correct me politely if I am) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenb Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 We hold an MDAP with Greece and have held it long before this conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 IC: Greece is allied with the Mozambique Confederacy and holds a MADP with them; therefore if Greece calls upon the Confederacy for aid they are going to reply in kind.OOC:Subtle, you are Indonesia correct; as far as I know Indonesia has no interests in any way shape or form in this conflict(maybe I am wrong correct me politely if I am) OOC: Yes, I am Indonesia. Yes, I do have an interest in this, as I see it as aggressive Imperialism, one step away from colonialism. I've built a strong stance against such things as this current nation. We hold an MDAP with Greece and have held it long before this conflict. "Incorrect. This conflict began while you were in the height of your civil war." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenb Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 "Incorrect. This conflict began while you were in the height of your civil war." We were allied to the Greeks ever since the beggining of our civil war. When they invaded FRY (OOC: in this thread) they activated our MDAP and we came to support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC:However that document still remains usable and it is being used in this case. IC: The Only land the Greek Government is after is technically part of real life Greece(ie the Brown jut in that comprises that little bit of the FRY,) that is all Greece wants, to be a wholly unified nation possessive of that land which is rightfully ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) We were allied to the Greeks ever since the beggining of our civil war. When they invaded FRY (OOC: in this thread) they activated our MDAP and we came to support them. "Our statement was not properly clarified. This conflict has been happening since the first sign of unrest in your nation. before you signed the treaty. OOC:However that document still remains usable and it is being used in this case.IC: The Only land the Greek Government is after is technically part of real life Greece(ie the Brown jut in that comprises that little bit of the FRY,) that is all Greece wants, to be a wholly unified nation possessive of that land which is rightfully ours OOC: An ally has no obligation to help in a war that started before the treaty was signed. IC: "Then why did you not simply talk to the Yugoslav government, instead of manufacturing 'evidence' of supposed acts of espionage by them?" Edited November 2, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 "We strongly recommend that the Grecian Empire pays the reparations to Yugoslavia." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 IC: I attempted to contact the Yugoslav government however due to inactivity(basically the fact he was never on IRC and that he did not seem active on the boards here) I went forward with the attack, I will gladly settle for what it rightfully Greece's and that is all I want. I mean no harm to the FRY, I just want what it rightfully and legally Greece's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenb Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 The Greeks believed there was evidence of spying, there was no forged evidence. Since the international community did not seem to affect their evidence, they withdrew from the war. Now FRY has decided to go attack for not attending a conference? Also there may not be an obligation, but we will support our allies if they request it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 IC: I attempted to contact the Yugoslav government however due to inactivity(basically the fact he was never on IRC and that he did not seem active on the boards here) I went forward with the attack, I will gladly settle for what it rightfully Greece's and that is all I want. I mean no harm to the FRY, I just want what it rightfully and legally Greece's. "It is not 'legally yours'. It is legally a part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Now we demand that you withdraw and pay reparations to the FRY immediately." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 IC: I attempted to contact the Yugoslav government however due to inactivity(basically the fact he was never on IRC and that he did not seem active on the boards here) I went forward with the attack, I will gladly settle for what it rightfully Greece's and that is all I want. I mean no harm to the FRY, I just want what it rightfully and legally Greece's. That still does not explain the manufacturing of evidence. And how long has it been since that land has been 'rightfully yours?' you started this conflict, you are facing strength greater than your own, it is not your place to dictate terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenb Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 "We strongly recommend that the Grecian Empire pays the reparations to Yugoslavia." Reparations for what? The attack a month ago was stopped before it began, and now FRY is attacking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Reparations for what? The attack a month ago was stopped before it began, and now FRY is attacking! "Greece never repaid Yugoslavia for the damage their troops caused in that short conflict. When Greece refused to respond, the Yugoslavs were entirely justified to continue the battle." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: Sirs: If you look at a modern day map(real world), the land that is occupied by the FRY Belongs to GREECE, in ERP the land was originally the Union's I also attempted to contact the Union and work a deal out with them when they owned the land. They declined and then magically V the King reappeared and so did the FRY. My issue lies in the fact that the FRY never truly existed, it was gone from the map, then it magically reappeared when I had a claim to the land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 "Greece never repaid Yugoslavia for the damage their troops caused in that short conflict. When Greece refused to respond, the Yugoslavs were entirely justified to continue the battle." OOC: and so they are entirely obliged to face our weaponry. they do not need your American support in this conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: Sirs: If you look at a modern day map(real world), the land that is occupied by the FRY Belongs to GREECE, in ERP the land was originally the Union's I also attempted to contact the Union and work a deal out with them when they owned the land. They declined and then magically V the King reappeared and so did the FRY. My issue lies in the fact that the FRY never truly existed, it was gone from the map, then it magically reappeared when I had a claim to the land. OOC: and so they are entirely obliged to face our weaponry. they do not need your American support in this conflict. OOC: For the love of God, it's an IC post. REPLY TO IT IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) OOC: the second comment about the facing our weaponry I did not wish for you to take offense at and come after us, therefore its OOC. IC: Sirs: If you look at a modern day map(real world), the land that is occupied by the FRY Belongs to GREECE, in the current universe the land was originally the Union's I also attempted to contact the Union and work a deal out with them when they owned the land. They declined and then magically the leader of the former FRY reappeared and so did the FRY. My issue lies in the fact that the FRY never truly existed, it was gone from the map, then it magically reappeared when I had a claim to the land. Edited November 2, 2009 by graniteknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: the second comment about the facing our weaponry I did not wish for you to take offense at and come after us, therefore its OOC.IC: Sirs: If you look at a modern day map(real world), the land that is occupied by the FRY Belongs to GREECE, in ERP the land was originally the Union's I also attempted to contact the Union and work a deal out with them when they owned the land. They declined and then magically V the King reappeared and so did the FRY. My issue lies in the fact that the FRY never truly existed, it was gone from the map, then it magically reappeared when I had a claim to the land. OOC: Edit it. V the King and ERP are not IC objects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: that better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOC: the second comment about the facing our weaponry I did not wish for you to take offense at and come after us, therefore its OOC.IC: Sirs: If you look at a modern day map(real world), the land that is occupied by the FRY Belongs to GREECE, in the current universe the land was originally the Union's I also attempted to contact the Union and work a deal out with them when they owned the land. They declined and then magically the leader of the former FRY reappeared and so did the FRY. My issue lies in the fact that the FRY never truly existed, it was gone from the map, then it magically reappeared when I had a claim to the land. "So you're saying that because your maps lacked Yugoslavia on them, they didn't exist? Is cartography the measure of a nation's existence? This IS the real world, that land is occupied by Yugoslavia. It is therefore Yugoslavian land." OOC: Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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