Tygaland Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm being legalistic. Annoying, perhaps, but hardly wrong. No, you are just trying to create controversy where there is none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 If only I'd known this last September when the Coalition "hid" how STA's reps would be distributed in the surrender terms announcement. I had no idea I had the chance to choose where they went and an opportunity to screech all over the [ooc]forum[/ooc] about the evil hidden terms. Live and learn, I guess. Maybe I am just opposed to the idea of secret terms. I don't really care to hear you whine for the umpteenth time how mean to you TOP Valhalla & Co. were and I also don't care much for my legitimate objection being swamped with "it's not as bad as what happened to Polar STA, so who cares." The fact that something worse happened in the past shouldn't mean that we accept this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geopet Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 If only I'd known this last September when the Coalition "hid" how STA's reps would be distributed in the surrender terms announcement. I had no idea I had the chance to choose where they went and an opportunity to screech all over the [ooc]forum[/ooc] about the evil hidden terms. Live and learn, I guess. Perhaps my past experiences are just a bit more evil than yours? That does not mean I am not a Tygaist now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 quotes If I had been whining you'd have a point. Perhaps my past experiences are just a bit more evil than yours? That does not mean I am not a Tygaist now . Your membership fee is due according to my records, which are secret... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geopet Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Your membership fee is due according to my records, which are secret... I'll happily get up-to-date on that when the reps recipients are published here. Edited July 21, 2009 by Geopet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loucifer Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 We were more concerned with the actual peace document rather than the distribution of who gets what. Where the reps go doesn't really matter, we will be paying them anyway, its just another nation to us. You folks are really scrounging for something to complain about if your making an issue out of this. When the reps start flowing, you can watch to your heart's content. If those receiving the reps wish to announce who they have decided to receive them wish to tell the world, you can be sure to find another ridiculously long discussion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'll happily get up-to-date on that when the reps recipients are published here. Well, you risk being charged another sign on fee if your membership elapses! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geopet Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 We were more concerned with the actual peace document rather than the distribution of who gets what. Where the reps go doesn't really matter, we will be paying them anyway, its just another nation to us. You folks are really scrounging for something to complain about if your making an issue out of this. When the reps start flowing, you can watch to your heart's content. If those receiving the reps wish to announce who they have decided to receive them wish to tell the world, you can be sure to find another ridiculously long discussion here. Cool and all, but you know, the neat thing about this little tangent debate that flared up here is that it is among parties who opposed you. Perhaps it looks like discord or division to those unfamiliar with free association and speech. I suspect not for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 In any case, I'm sure you could get an answer as to who gets what if you asked those in charge nicely instead of assuming evil doings. Actually no. I tried and just got smart one line quips in response so as to deflect my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It pleases me to see that people only whine about something as irrelevant as the break up of the reps. It'll be public the moment the payment starts, so I see no reason for anyone to complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geopet Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Actually no. I tried and just got smart one line quips in response so as to deflect my attention. Hey, poyps! Give em hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hey, poyps!Give em hell! I had no intention of giving anyone hell. The only reason I enquired was just a slight curiosity on my behalf. Given other surrender terms in this war have had a published breakdown I was wondering why this one didn't. The point blank refusal to tell people what is going on makes me even more curious than before, especially since it was confirmed by SethB in this thread that the reason behind it isn't because a split hasn't been decided yet, and isn't because one or more alliances wish to hide proportionately large amounts that they are receiving. I'm quite lost as to what other reason there is for it. Also Hey Geo, nice to see you playing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Systemfailure Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 All the Reps go to RoK since we clearly did all the work also we need the reps to build a giant statue of Rishnokof i have no idea why Karma leadership wanted it built but rish told us thats what they said, and we all know that "Twinkle" never lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 All the Reps go to RoK since we clearly did all the work also we need the reps to build a giant statue of Rishnokof i have no idea why Karma leadership wanted it built but rish told us thats what they said, and we all know that "Twinkle" never lies. "Twinkle"? Presumably someone(s) at NPO and someone(s) representing the Karma alliances will keep careful track of all the reparations paid out, meet periodically to compare figures, and if all goes well the figures will match. If they don't, then they'll audit their books and figure out why. It matters not one wit where the money/tech goes, that is for the Karma alliances to figure out amongst themselves, but presumably alliances like Ragnarok will be entitled to a significant amount of them because of all the "heavy lifting" they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geopet Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well, you are right on to speak up here, and if anyone says it's bad PR, laugh from the gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipah Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well fought .. and well won ,o/ Never regret anything because at one time .. it was exactly what you wanted And that's the way it is ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Actually no. I tried and just got smart one line quips in response so as to deflect my attention. Funny. I asked and got an answer. One of us must be doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Funny. I asked and got an answer. One of us must be doing something wrong. I guess people just like you more. Who wouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I guess people just like you more. Who wouldn't? Good point. I'm such a carebear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimos Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Distribution should be which KARMA alliance has taken the most damage from the NPO. Quite obvious to me that Ragnarok should get the bulk of the reps. They were the ones who had to face NPO nations with low NS with nukes. My opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drostan Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It seems to me that a lot of people are disappointed to see that Karma alliances are not eager to stab each other in the back for PR crumbs. The meat and potatoes of this announcement were the surrender and terms. You'll have to wait for dessert as apparently it is not yet finished. This is standard dinner table protocol. Now look what you've gone and done... I'm hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 RoK sure got the biggest hit, so guess they deserve a bigger chunk of the pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It's good to see that the war finally ended. The NPO will have some recovering to do but overall it is the best thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinite Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) If it dictates a course of action for NPO, I see it as a term. Do we have to publish which nations we want it to go to as well? We are going to giving them nations and not just alliances to give it to. It will dictate NPO's course of action to the same extent. This debate is ridiculous. Under no definition, legalese or otherwise, does something that will inevitably come to light constitute a secret term. It may be disappointing that you have to wait, but it's not a secret term. Edited July 21, 2009 by Trinite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable77 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It is true, there are a couple of secret terms. The people denying it just don't know about them. Only Dandiland and I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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