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[quote name='Sal Paradise' timestamp='1283040109' post='2434311']
And once I found out my multiplier, I still don't know what I'm multiplying. :P
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Why not the higher number?
Because that's silly. In cases like that, you always use the lowest number.

Also, you multiply the subs you have ingame with the modifier. If you have 4 subs, 5,900 infra and 3,800 tech, you multiply with 3 the number of subs.
Resulting in 12.

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[quote name='Lynneth' timestamp='1283044160' post='2434357']
Because that's silly. In cases like that, you always use the lowest number.[/quote]

Can someone offer a more logical explanation?

[quote]Also, you multiply the subs you have ingame with the modifier. If you have 4 subs, 5,900 infra and 3,800 tech, you multiply with 3 the number of subs.
Resulting in 12.
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How does anyone know how many subs I have?

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Requesting HHAYD get reprimanded for metagaming: [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=91169&view=findpost&p=2434348]here[/url].

Says that OOC modifications he made without IC roleplay should be reflected in IC. Furthermore, there is no actual proof that he made said OOC modifications other than his word, and he has [b]already admitted he did not RP ICly anything[/b]. I request a GM make it so that the changes he allege have been made did not happen in order to keep an IC continuity and so that HHAYD cannot hide behind phantom edits to escape IC consequences.

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[quote name='Sargun' timestamp='1283049837' post='2434428']
Requesting HHAYD get reprimanded for metagaming: [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=91169&view=findpost&p=2434348]here[/url].

Says that OOC modifications he made without IC roleplay should be reflected in IC. Furthermore, there is no actual proof that he made said OOC modifications other than his word, and he has [b]already admitted he did not RP ICly anything[/b]. I request a GM make it so that the changes he allege have been made did not happen in order to keep an IC continuity and so that HHAYD cannot hide behind phantom edits to escape IC consequences.
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I told him it was up to him if he wanted to recognize it or not. I won't be making any IC posts until I know which option he picked, so far he hasn't.

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[quote name='Voodoo Nova' timestamp='1283019719' post='2433981']
That is a really silly multiplier when some people have tech in a higher multiplier than their infra level.
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Silly or not, that is the rule, which EM asked details for.

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Requesting a spyroll on classified messages he received (if they weren't deleted), evidences that indicate that other countries had helped BH during the BH Civil War, and evidences that BH had helped a terrorist group in GLP.

[img]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3687/17357263.png[/img]

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[quote name='Sal Paradise' timestamp='1283386559' post='2438645']
Oh? Do you have any IC reason to suspect this?
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GLP cracked down on FEO and after some "friendly" interrogation, they learned that BH had helped the FEO. Also, the BH rebels indicated that the legit BH forces received assistance from J Andres. Both ICly, are worth looking deeper into for GLP.

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Spy rolling against Franz of Denmark.

The first roll is to make their government/mil unable to notice/respond to the invasion for maybe a few hours by screwing with their communication and detection systems. The second roll is, if the first one fails, for the same thing, and otherwise, it is to detect where his AADN SAM sites are located (So to be able to attack them later).

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I'd like to call attention to this ship, which in a fleet which seems a bit excessive, this seems beyond the pail.

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=65298&view=findpost&p=2439379

2 16 Inch Turrets and 2400 VLMS tubes on a 300 meter ship seems way excessive. On top of that this ship has much more armor than the Iowa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_class_battleship#Armor

Top this all off, the amount of defenses it has, at 40 mm rather than the normal 20 mm and a lot more point defense tubes, and this ship seems way unrealistic.

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[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1283528866' post='2440437']
I'd like to call attention to this ship, which in a fleet which seems a bit excessive, this seems beyond the pail.

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=65298&view=findpost&p=2439379"]http://forums.cybern...dpost&p=2439379[/url]

2 16 Inch Turrets and 2400 VLMS tubes on a 300 meter ship seems way excessive. On top of that this ship has much more armor than the Iowa: [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_class_battleship#Armor"]http://en.wikipedia....attleship#Armor[/url]

Top this all off, the amount of defenses it has, at 40 mm rather than the normal 20 mm and a lot more point defense tubes, and this ship seems way unrealistic.
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My fleet seems excessive? I'm honoured....

To be quite frank, your factbook was one of many such threads I perused before making my navy... infact, I personally consulted your 'Xia Class Nuclear Powered Guided Missile Fast Battleship' for the Apocalypse's design, after deeming some other navies out there as being... excessive.

If the length of the ship's size is the main issue, I'll gladly increase it to perhaps 400 meters, add an additional 20,000 t to its displacement and reduce its speed a few knots. If the ship's primary armament is your concern, I was under the impression that 16 inch turrets and the 2400 VLS were paltry compared to [b]96 ship launched ballistic missiles[/b], 960 VLS, 10 railguns and 6 secondary turrets.

The armor: based on the Arsenal ship concept of the US navy, the Apocalypse has an extremely high amount of automation, enabling it to carry and extremely reduced complement compared to other ships of comparable size. This space was interpreted by me to allow this armor. If anyone else has an issue with it, I'd gladly reduce it.

The CIWS I have in place are upsized Pantsir and Kashtan systems. I do not have the luxury, nor the desire to RP with chemical lasers when others (including you, surprisingly enough) have '5 Retractable Quadruple Barrel 40 mm Close In Naval Guns', or '8 SeaRAM Close In Systems', and '2 3 Barrel Auto-Cannons' on the same ship. 40mm cannons are widespread on navies in CNRP, I will not suffer to be behind in this regard. I have even seen someone getting away with 'Fast-Fifty' CIWS systems.

If my navy is excessive and unrealistic, think of it as me being ahead of the curve.

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Requesting spy roll for patriotic citizens to hack the government websites of labrador and replace their messages with the East is Red playing on loop.

[img]http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5755/spyr.png[/img]

Edit:

EM I clearly specified that those were Polaris SLBM size Ballistic Missiles:

[quote]Dual Use Anti-Ship/ Anti-Ground Missile Bays:
96-Tube Ship Launched Ballistic Missiles (Polaris Size)[/quote]

That is roughly the same size (actually slightly smaller) as the P700 which you employ several [b]hundred[/b] of on your warship. Furthermore your description of the stats are deceptive on my battleship, as not all those rail guns are the same size, ranging from smaller ones designed to be on the DD-1000 destroyers to larger ones.

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[quote name='iKrolm' timestamp='1283624171' post='2441563']Can you request a spy roll for non-government actions? :blink:[/quote]Maybe, it depends on answers to the following questions

Are your citizen hackers filling your spy slots?
Do citizen hackers constitute the entirety of your intelligence agencies?
What percentages of your spy slots do citizen hackers currently occupy?
Do citizen hackers have regular access to intelligence infrastructure, both improvements and/or wonders?

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[quote name='iKrolm' timestamp='1283624171' post='2441563']
Can you request a spy roll for non-government actions? :blink:
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If it takes up a slot, I don't see why not. The nation being hacked can still pursue the hackers if caught, etc, so it's not like there are zero consequences for the spy roll. The only issue that people could claim is similar to the "terrorist" in that the nation itself can't receive consequences.

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