Doitzel Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 lol GGA. Good riddance to wasted time. Such fragile bonds of loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Such fragile bonds of loyalty. Im frankly not shocked by that revelation. Also lol at Bilrow being competent. That being said, I suppose this makes OV quite forgiving (or is it GGA that is?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Such fragile bonds of loyalty. Loyalty works both ways, and this is the GGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffron X Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Well this is certainly interesting to say the least. Looks like GGA is making some smart steps. Like realizing that we can't protect them anymore, so they're running as fast as they can in the opposite direction, hoping to be embraced by carmuh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Like realizing that we can't protect them anymore, so they're running as fast as they can in the opposite direction, hoping to be embraced by carmuh? Oh man, that made me remember that one comment made by a GGA guy, I think he was called Silverpoint or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Like realizing that we can't protect them anymore, so they're running as fast as they can in the opposite direction, hoping to be embraced by carmuh? So you're disappointed that they've left you after you've treated them like a second class alliance for three years? It must be shocking that they'd do such a thing. Absolutely shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenFighter Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Oh man, that made me remember that one comment made by a GGA guy, I think he was called Silverpoint or something like that? Silverpoint? Really? Silverhawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Silverpoint? Really? Silverhawk. Yeah, that dude. Sorry, it wasn't really all that memorable for me but it was pretty funny. It doesn't really have the same ring to it though when you replace NPO with OV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scythegfx Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Hahahahaahah what? This is nonsense lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 and so the New Emerald Order jumps the fence once again, and andre do you really expect anything nice from us towards you and yours after this? come on, you chose your side for better or worse, least you can do now is run with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 and so the New Emerald Order jumps the fence once again, and andre do you really expect anything nice from us towards you and yours after this? come on, you chose your side for better or worse, least you can do now is run with it. I just find it hilarious you are insulting them with a term your alliance at one point so vehemently denied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 ...I must be reading this wrong. VE and GGA? Unexpected, but at least GGA's on the way to being slightly more respectable. o/ OV o/ GGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaoshawk Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 This is a interesting turn of a events. o/ GGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Like the NPO amirite? Correct, the NPO have not demonstrated that they have changed yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King MyLife Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) and so the New Emerald Order jumps the fence once again, and andre do you really expect anything nice from us towards you and yours after this? come on, you chose your side for better or worse, least you can do now is run with it. HAHA Funny...Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.... Edited July 10, 2009 by mylife125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 ...I must be reading this wrong. VE and GGA? Unexpected, but at least GGA's on the way to being slightly more respectable.o/ OV o/ GGA You are reading it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre27 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 No, she's right. They've done absolutely nothing, and deserve nothing until they've shown they have. Bilrow doesn't like the road we're taking. Should be sufficient proof we're heading in the right direction Oh man, that made me remember that one comment made by a GGA guy, I think he was called Silverpoint or something like that? Don't remind me. Do you know how long i had to flock him to get that nasty misconception out of his head. The poor fellow still needs pillows when sitting down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) Bilrow doesn't like the road we're taking. Should be sufficient proof we're heading in the right direction Very true. In all seriousness though, to the people who have been saying "they have done nothing to show they have changed"...well, cant this in itself be considered something to show that they have changed? First of all, they must have shown quite the change in attitude for OV to sign this treaty. OV holds very few treaties, and the ones that it does have it holds in high regard. Second, while signing this does not denote 100% change, it surely seems to me as something that shows they are embracing the concept and want to be headed in a different direction. Edited July 10, 2009 by Il Impero Romano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Very true.In all seriousness though, to the people who have been saying "they have done nothing to show they have changed"...well, cant this in itself be considered something to show that they have changed? First of all, they must have shown quite the change in attitude for OV to sign this treaty. OV holds very few treaties, and the ones that it does have it holds in high regard. Second, while signing this does not denote 100% change, it surely seems to me as something that shows they are embracing the concept and want to be headed in a different direction. Nope. I signed a treaty with GGA in a matter of like, 4 or 5 days. Someone said "wanna sign it?" and I was like "... I guess" and in a matter of days it went from a piat to an mdp to an mdoap. Signing a treaty means nothing, that's not change. Substantial change would be in the form of actual policies, actual efforts to reform your image, and signing a treaty with OV isn't going to do any of that, because they've done nothing to make anyone believe that this isn't some sort of ruse (I'm not saying it is, don't put those words in my mouth), and the drama that surrounds them, constantly, isn't helping anything because they don't know how to handle it. The best way to reform the image would have been to lay low for awhile, reform internally, make policy changes internally, then announce those changes, and THEN go about seeking treaties. This proves nothing. They still deserve nothing. They are a joke, and they don't deserve to be called an alliance anymore. The sooner they go away, the better everyone will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypoNinja Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Nope. I signed a treaty with GGA in a matter of like, 4 or 5 days. Someone said "wanna sign it?" and I was like "... I guess" and in a matter of days it went from a piat to an mdp to an mdoap.Signing a treaty means nothing, that's not change. Substantial change would be in the form of actual policies, actual efforts to reform your image, and signing a treaty with OV isn't going to do any of that, because they've done nothing to make anyone believe that this isn't some sort of ruse (I'm not saying it is, don't put those words in my mouth), and the drama that surrounds them, constantly, isn't helping anything because they don't know how to handle it. The best way to reform the image would have been to lay low for awhile, reform internally, make policy changes internally, then announce those changes, and THEN go about seeking treaties. This proves nothing. They still deserve nothing. They are a joke, and they don't deserve to be called an alliance anymore. The sooner they go away, the better everyone will be. You can't expect someone to change without giving them the means, if political distance from the NPO is the desired outcome GGA needs to have options other than the NPO for their own security. Shunning them would accomplish nothing while showing a bit of trust has the potential to lead to great changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre27 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Nope. I signed a treaty with GGA in a matter of like, 4 or 5 days. Someone said "wanna sign it?" and I was like "... I guess" and in a matter of days it went from a piat to an mdp to an mdoap. Which treaty was that and when was it signed? Signing a treaty means nothing, that's not change. Substantial change would be in the form of actual policies, actual efforts to reform your image, and signing a treaty with OV isn't going to do any of that, because they've done nothing to make anyone believe that this isn't some sort of ruse (I'm not saying it is, don't put those words in my mouth), and the drama that surrounds them, constantly, isn't helping anything because they don't know how to handle it. The best way to reform the image would have been to lay low for awhile, reform internally, make policy changes internally, then announce those changes, and THEN go about seeking treaties. Each of these things we have been doing, quite a few even prior to the Karma war. The only thing is we rarely make announcement about them. Internal reforms are just that, internal reforms. We do not seek attention about these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I hope this works out, but color me skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 ...I must be reading this wrong. VE and GGA? Unexpected, but at least GGA's on the way to being slightly more respectable.o/ OV o/ GGA I'm sorry what? Seriously, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flonker Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 You can't expect someone to change without giving them the means, if political distance from the NPO is the desired outcome GGA needs to have options other than the NPO for their own security. Shunning them would accomplish nothing while showing a bit of trust has the potential to lead to great changes. Exactly. Having worked with them while they were under terms, we started seeing the beginning of a shift towards a more independent GGA. Thus, our treaty with them to give them the breathing room needed to continue on their course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Nope. I signed a treaty with GGA in a matter of like, 4 or 5 days. Someone said "wanna sign it?" and I was like "... I guess" and in a matter of days it went from a piat to an mdp to an mdoap. You misinterpreted. While signing a treaty of the type that you did may not mean much, I was pointing out the fact that for OV to even sign it there must have been some type of step forward on GGA's part because of the fact that OV would not sign a treaty for no apparent reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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