Sumeragi Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 The recent behavior of Lu concerning a treaty that had been agreed upon was one of the most imprudent insult ever to be done to Yamato. As seen by the transcripts* of the communication between Yamato and Lu, it was obvious that the treaty was to be put into effect, yet we courtiously allowed some time for Lu to cancel the treaty by not signing. However, as seen by the outrageous deed done by ripping the treaty in public, Lu does not know any decency. Yamato is a nation that places a high value on proper behavior, and the action done by Lu Tai was not just an insult against the honor of Yamato, but an act that would be considered an act of war. We do not take insults slightly, and therefore, we recognize a state of war between Yamato and Lu. However, since we are the older and larger nation, we are perfectly willing to forgive this isult, if the following terms are kept: 1. Lu apologizes for the public insult. 2. Lu will sign the treaty, of which a new copy will be sent. 3. Lu will hand over Outer Mongolia as a Yamato Protectorate. Terms 1 and 2 are not negotiable. Any attempt to change the current situation, be it reverting Outer Mongolia to Cochin, joining the Dragon Empire, or signing a defense pact will be considered as refusal of the terms. Refusal will mean that we shall start actions as part of the state of war between Yamato and Lu. Lu has 48 hours (OOC: RL) to respond, or we shall accept silence as refusal. We shall, of course, extend the deadline should there be technical difficulties (OOC: Lutai isn't online in the next 48 hours). This is al for now. *Private message to the Dragon Empire* We are open to discussion with the Dragon Empire concerning this situation. Please contact us if you wish. *Military movements* 300,00 troops and 1,500 tanks are split into Group North, Center, and South, and are placed at the Yamato-Lu borders. 100,000 troops are in Kyushu, while another 100,000 troops are in Okinawa. All 85 fighter and bomber squardons are on alert, ready to strike when the order is given. * The PM exchanges between me and Lutai Sumeragi: (Something about wanting to buy the land specified) Lutai: And how much are you willing to pay for this may I ask. Sumeragi: I'm willing to use in-game cash(around six million), but given the opposition to such deals from our neighbors, what I can offer you is an MDP and technology transfer treaty. Lutai: The Imperial Council of Lu agrees to this offer. Before we go into an argument about PMs being OOC, it is obvious that Lutai replied in an IC manner, as seen in the bold part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 OOC: "I'll give you money but to hide it I'll offer you this" derp IC: Declaring war over a ripped piece of paper? And we're the terrorists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) OOC: You may consider this IC justification, but you're sure as hell going to take some IC consequences. IC: The Elective Dictatorship of Palintine officially declares its disapproval of Yamato's actions regarding Lu. Diplomacy was not attempted. Sanctions were completely skipped over. Hell, the only announcement we've gotten regarding the situation is its escalation to war. Over a petty insult! You've got to be kidding us all. This is clearly an elaborate ruse for a new Yamato holiday where pranks are performed. "I've told you twice; what does it take to get you people to listen?" - Jacob Goldstein Edited July 5, 2009 by hawk_11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) OOC: I have not offered money this time, thank you very much. Seems like we all (including me) have reading problems. IC: "Not just a piece of paper, but a treaty that was already agreed upon, and broekn in PUBLIC. You expect any government to accept such humilitation and get over it?" *Classified messages to members of PP and the Hansa Treaty* As we are a member of the respective treaty, we hope you support us in this situation. Clearly, Lu has done something that no respectable governments be forced to experience. OOC: Well, at least I don't have to worry about being gangbanged this time. Edited July 5, 2009 by Sumeragi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) Hiley actually snorted at the reporter who relayed him the response. "Any government but yours would probably put diplomatic sanctions on the country and get over it in a little while, not declare war and attempt to extort a treaty and land out of it." OOC: Sumeragi, do you perhaps mean "ultimatum" instead of ultimanium? Edited July 5, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) We suggest that both sides should take an etiquette class and maybe an anger management class for a few weeks. (Just don't bring any weapons to class) Edited July 5, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) The Empire finds the behavior of Yamato to be absurd. Declaring war over someone not signing an agreement is more dishonorable than not signing to begin with. This is nothing more than black mail. We hereby guarantee the independence of Lu and any hostile action within 24 hours will merit an activation of all our defense treaties. Edited July 5, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 The Taiwanese Empire would like to ask Yamato to reconsider its actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) NVM Edited July 5, 2009 by Marquis Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 "We certainly wouldn't be this angered if Lu had walked out quietly. We did, after all, courtiously allowed some time for Lu to cancel the treaty by not signing something that has already been agreed upon. It is one thing to cancel something, but completely another to show complete disrespect towards someone who came with open arms." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 "We certainly wouldn't be this angered if Lu had walked out quietly. We did, after all, courtiously allowed some time for Lu to cancel the treaty by not signing something that has already been agreed upon.It is one thing to cancel something, but completely another to show complete disrespect towards someone who came with open arms." If you're going to declare war every time somebody disrespects you, you're in for one hell of a ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Azenquor Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) “The United Kingdom of Buryatia condemns this act of blatant aggression on our doorstep. The Buryatian Ambassador to Yamato has been recalled, and Yamato’s Ambassador to Buryatia has been expelled. The government in Buryatia reserves the right to take further action regarding this situation, should the government deem it necessary to do so. A treaty is not enacted until it is signed by both parties therefore the refusal to sign the treaty on the part of the Lu Empire is their own sovereign right. Regardless of the manner in which the treaty was refused, it was still not enacted. We sincerely hope that the government of Yamato will come to its senses before it unilaterally jeopardizes the stability of the region to soothe their bruised egos. We will also keep this situation in mind before we consider signing any form of agreement with Yamato. We hope that both parties will step back and resolve this situation in a peaceful manner” ***Classified*** Buryatia raises Military Alert to DEFCON 3. Border patrols are increased, bases are put on military alert, but no troop movements are made Edited July 5, 2009 by Imperator Azenquor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 "We certainly wouldn't be this angered if Lu had walked out quietly. We did, after all, courtiously allowed some time for Lu to cancel the treaty by not signing something that has already been agreed upon.It is one thing to cancel something, but completely another to show complete disrespect towards someone who came with open arms." If there was no name on that paper, there was no agreement. That's how contract law works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 *Classified messages to members of PP and the Hansa Treaty*As we are a member of the respective treaty, we hope you support us in this situation. Clearly, Lu has done something that no respectable governments be forced to experience. *Classified to Yamato* We don't. You're acting like a petulant child overreacting to a petty insult. The irony is you're probably going to respond to this message by insulting us about our own nation's situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 OOC: Ultimanium? Is that, like, a new element of the periodic table? IC: So the 'Paper War' begins. What a pity. We are glad to be on the other side of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) "We certainly wouldn't be this angered if Lu had walked out quietly. We did, after all, courtiously allowed some time for Lu to cancel the treaty by not signing something that has already been agreed upon.It is one thing to cancel something, but completely another to show complete disrespect towards someone who came with open arms." Some people like to suddenly change their minds, it is part of human nature. If you can't handle the disrespectful leaders, ignore them and let them be. If you still can't handle it without threatening, we strongly suggest you to attend a politic etiquette class. Edited July 5, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teriethien Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 France issues a public statement appealing for a diplomatic solution satisfactory to all sides, in order to avoid unnecessary bloodshed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 *Message to Buryatia* You are going to take actions against your MDP partner? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 *Message to Buryatia*You are going to take actions against your MDP partner? Interesting. That you think treaties count for much more than friendship is saddening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 That you think treaties count for much more than friendship is saddening. OOC: Wasn't that message classified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 OOC: Wasn't that message classified? OOC: Just says message, no classified or secret or private or encrypted or anything. That's why we put classified or secret or private or encrypted. Otherwise it's public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 "Bavaria finds the thought of going to war over a ripped-up treaty - even if done in public - absolutely ridiculous. We shall thus be sending non-military aid to Lu in the case that Yamato does advance into Lu territory." OOC: Yes, Sarg, I told you I'd go to bed. But this just needed a response. :V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) OOC: Wasn't that message classified? OOC: It didn't say 'classified', so I'd guess it's public. EDIT: Err, Sarggy beat me to it. ^.^; Edited July 5, 2009 by JEDCJT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Azenquor Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) *Message to Buryatia*You are going to take actions against your MDP partner? Interesting. "There are several actions that a sovereign government can take in a situation such as this, and we intend to fully explore those options. We have no intention of taking any action that would be in contravention of the signed Pax Hanseatique. We again implore the government of Yamato not to pursue this dangerous act." Edited July 5, 2009 by Imperator Azenquor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 "What is this, Yamato attempting Gunboat Diplomacy while boarding a raft?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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