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Private Military Companies are forbidden to operate in Aiginor under Aigin law. Any Artemis employees found entering or living in Aiginor will be arrested and given a fair trial, after which a sentence of at least 3 months and up to 5 years in prison may be given.

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Entry into any land is a risk. We are professionals - if we were to back down at the first sign of an unimportant nation throwing its weight around (such as Aotearoa) we wouldn't be where we are today.

We refer not to just contracts...but any member of your company at any time.

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Artemis is welcome to the Republic of Free Somal. However, while we will make space avaliable for you in the form of a land grant with a twenty year lease at the price of one dollar we do insist that you bring your people in and out of Somal via our normal points of entry and departure. We also request that no biological or chemical weapons be brought into the Republic or the land grant.

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OOC: Unrealistic RP is still unrealistic.

IC: When within our territories, all people are under our jurisdiciton. Perhaps Artemis doens't know the basics of law?

Given now the company believes itself to be such professionals, it would be wise enough to avoid our territory.

The Republic of Yawoo suggest that Yamato learns how embassy ground works, as any embassy ground is considered sovereign soil where the host countries laws don't exist, but rather those of the embassy's country exist therefore within your territory, not all people are under your jurisdiction. So, perhaps, Yamato doesn't know the basics of law?

The Republic of Yawoo welcomes Artemis Global Services back into the public. Should A.G.S. need further bases they are welcome to discuss possible sites with a Yawooian diplomat.

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The Republic of Yawoo suggest that Yamato learns how embassy ground works, as any embassy ground is considered sovereign soil where the host countries laws don't exist, but rather those of the embassy's country exist therefore within your territory, not all people are under your jurisdiction. So, perhaps, Yamato doesn't know the basics of law?

The Republic of Yawoo welcomes Artemis Global Services back into the public. Should A.G.S. need further bases they are welcome to discuss possible sites with a Yawooian diplomat.

Perhaps the Republic of Yawoo should learn that country>company.

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The Republic of Yawoo suggest that Yamato learns how embassy ground works, as any embassy ground is considered sovereign soil where the host countries laws don't exist, but rather those of the embassy's country exist therefore within your territory, not all people are under your jurisdiction. So, perhaps, Yamato doesn't know the basics of law?

The Republic of Yawoo welcomes Artemis Global Services back into the public. Should A.G.S. need further bases they are welcome to discuss possible sites with a Yawooian diplomat.

However, We remind Yawoo that Yamatao has no such embassies for Artemis in their nation, and therefore it is a moot point.

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The Republic of Yawoo suggest that Yamato learns how embassy ground works, as any embassy ground is considered sovereign soil where the host countries laws don't exist, but rather those of the embassy's country exist therefore within your territory, not all people are under your jurisdiction. So, perhaps, Yamato doesn't know the basics of law?

The Republic of Yawoo welcomes Artemis Global Services back into the public. Should A.G.S. need further bases they are welcome to discuss possible sites with a Yawooian diplomat.

We refer you to the fact that since this company is not a nation, they cannot hold an embassy. Hence, any employees of this company at all times within Yamato lands are subject to Yamato law

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We refer you to the fact that since this company is not a nation, they cannot hold an embassy. Hence, any employees of this company at all times within Yamato lands are subject to Yamato law

Unless they are acting as a government that hires out its forces in the capacity of Mercenaries.

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Perhaps the Republic of Yawoo should learn that country>company.

Did The Republic of Yawoo say A.G.S. was a country? No. Yawoo was simply disputing Yamato's facts.

However, We remind Yawoo that Yamatao has no such embassies for Artemis in their nation, and therefore it is a moot point.

TRoY understands Artemis holds no such embassy, but it is always good to remind a nation that embassy's are soveriegn soil and not under a host countries laws. Woe be the country who violates Yawoo's sovereign soil in its embassy.

We refer you to the fact that since this company is not a nation, they cannot hold an embassy. Hence, any employees of this company at all times within Yamato lands are subject to Yamato law

Answered in the first quote.

Edit: added LVN's quote.

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To those saying that AGS is not a country's government, you are correct. However, if a country's government hires them as security guards for their embassy or as security guards during an official state visit, then those security guards should be treated the same as nationals from said visiting country.

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The Republic of Yawoo suggest that Yamato learns how embassy ground works, as any embassy ground is considered sovereign soil where the host countries laws don't exist, but rather those of the embassy's country exist therefore within your territory, not all people are under your jurisdiction. So, perhaps, Yamato doesn't know the basics of law?

Perhaps Yawoo doesn't realize that Yamato has only two active embassies (Hanseatic Commonwealth and Dragonisia), both whom do not usually host such security threats in the first place? If the two countries do hire Artemis as security details for the embassy, the guards would obviously be given diplomatic immunity. When we also consier how Artemis is NOT a government of a soverign country, and Louisiana does not have any diplomatic relations with us, we fail to see how our comment of jurisdiciton within our territories can be false in the first place.

Yawoo needs to learn more about the other country before commenting.

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Perhaps Yawoo doesn't realize that Yamato has only two active embassies (Hanseatic Commonwealth and Dragonisia), both whom do not usually host such security threats in the first place? If the two countries do hire Artemis as security details for the embassy, the guards would obviously be given diplomatic immunity. When we also consier how Artemis is NOT a government of a soverign country, and Louisiana does not have any diplomatic relations with us, we fail to see how our comment of jurisdiciton within our territories can be false in the first place.

Yawoo needs to learn more about the other country before commenting.

None-senese, The Republic of Yawoo doesn't need to learn more about Yamato, as Yawoo has never commented on the fact that Yamato has X amount of embassies with X amount of countries, nor about whether or not they are about to recognize A.G.S. as a country or not. Yawoo is not here to debate who Yamato wishes to conduct political affairs with, but is here to debate how far your laws stretch. What Yamato was claiming is false, not all things on their soil are under their laws. Yawoo was saying, and has said more than once now, that it was commenting on the fact that embassies are on the soveriegn property of, not the country where it is located, but by the residents of the embassy.

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If we are not mistaken a Dragonisian Embassy is in turn a Dragon Empire Embassy. As associate members of Dragon Empire AGS may be issued with diplomatic privileges while working as embassy staff. In such a case an arrest of an AGS employee would raise negative reactions.

Of course this is pure speculation.

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None-senese, The Republic of Yawoo doesn't need to learn more about Yamato, as Yawoo has never commented on the fact that Yamato has X amount of embassies with X amount of countries, nor about whether or not they are about to recognize A.G.S. as a country or not. Yawoo is not here to debate who Yamato wishes to conduct political affairs with, but is here to debate how far your laws stretch. What Yamato was claiming is false, not all things on their soil are under their laws. Yawoo was saying, and has said more than once now, that it was commenting on the fact that embassies are on the soveriegn property of, not the country where it is located, but by the residents of the embassy.

So does that mean the ambassadors can pull off endless amount of frauds in the nation they are in if the ambassadors' origin nation laws never stated anything about frauds?

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So does that mean the ambassadors can pull off endless amount of frauds in the nation they are in if the ambassadors' origin nation laws never stated anything about frauds?

A person with diplomatic immunity can be Persona non Grata'd but never arrested or prosecuted by the country where he is a diplomat. The diplomat and the diplomatic bag is inviolable.

One can even smuggle drugs with impunity (As some diplomats actually have) as the host nation does not have power to tamper with them.

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So does that mean the ambassadors can pull off endless amount of frauds in the nation they are in if the ambassadors' origin nation laws never stated anything about frauds?

If they are in the nation they'd be subject to diplomatic immunity, would they not? If there weren't any laws in their home nation, then they would not be punished, would they? Does this mean that the country they're in can not punish them? No, they can expel that nation's diplomats from their country if they so choose. These are basic diplomatic principles, why does The Republic of Yawoo have to teach these things? Perhaps Yawoo should start charging a fee for doing so.

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A person with diplomatic immunity can be Persona non Grata'd but never arrested or prosecuted by the country where he is a diplomat. The diplomat and the diplomatic bag is inviolable.

And we already said we would leave out those with diplomatic immunity. It seems some new nations have reading comprehension problems, never mind taking a overly large view of thinking that "territories" was meant to include embassies, which are already extraterritorial entities.

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