Reinhard Scheer Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 A well thought out and principled constitution - my congratulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Today I received the PM below. The question is a good one, so I'm going to reply here. The question: Hello, First of all, congratulations on your new charter. I am using private channels for this question because I do not want to cause any off topic discussion in your thread. Also, you have shown yourself to be a very reasonable person, and I have grown to respect your opinion on many matters. That being said, I am slightly confused over the wording on Nordreich's stance on PZI/EZI: "Nordreich does not engage in the practice of Permanent or Eternal Zero Infrastructure ("PZI" and "EZI") of its adversaries, reserving the right to keep enemy nations in a perpetual state of war only when all reasonable efforts to end a conflict have failed." If it is worth your time, could you please explain to me what you believe the differences between "perpetual state of war" and PZI/EZI are? I think I understand where you guys are coming from on this, I am interested in hearing your personal thoughts on it though. I understand if you choose not to answer me, since you do not know me. Thank You, Name Removed This is actually a pretty good question. I'm a bit surprised no one else has thought to ask what the difference is. So allow me to answer by giving you a completely hypothetical scenario: Imagine that your alliance is at war with another alliance. The battle goes on for a few days or weeks, but ultimately the other guys give up.One or more members of the surrendering alliance decide they're not going to accept terms. They're going to keep fighting. They continue to cause problems for your lower ranks and, at the same time, refuse to accept all efforts to end the conflict. You have no choice but to keep fighting them as long as they say they're going to keep attacking. Or A member of the alliance is attacked by a rogue raider. When approached, the raider refuses to pay reps and says he's going to attack whomever he pleases, whenever he pleases. He attacks another member of the alliance. I could probably come up with better examples if I had been awake longer and had downed my morning dose of caffeine. The point is that in each scenario, responsibility for the continuation of a conflict shifts from the alliance (Nordreich) to the individual(s) at war with the alliance. The individual(s) can accept whatever terms are offered to end the conflict -- which may simply be "let's just walk away from this mess and have nothing further to do with each other" -- or they can continue to fight. But the decision to fight is theirs, not Nordreich's. I probably haven't explained this very well -- as I said, I haven't had my morning coffee yet -- but I trust I have at least given you a sense of what I meant when I wrote that particular section of the Charter. Edited July 1, 2009 by kingzog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Nice! love the democratic aspects alot , you guys are chipping away at my ambivalence alot lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Nice! love the democratic aspects alot , you guys are chipping away at my ambivalence alot lately Baby steps, friend. Baby steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WcaesarD Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 There are some nice changes in there. Glad to see you guys are moving along. o/ Nordreich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRCatD Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Awesome new Charter! o/ Nordreich Edited July 1, 2009 by XRCatD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Chun Stunna Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 The fuhrer smiles upon this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Baby steps, friend. Baby steps. impressive steps nevetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agha Petros Elia Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 o/ Kingzog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medraut Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Nice! love the democratic aspects alot , you guys are chipping away at my ambivalence alot lately We are doing all this just to get your approval and love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinzent Zeppelin Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Urgghhhkk, democracy in Nordreich. Yesterday, I voted for a candidate for the very first time in my CN career. It was revolting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Urgghhhkk, democracy in Nordreich. Yesterday, I voted for a candidate for the very first time in my CN career. It was revolting. How do you think I feel? We have nine candidates. Four seats available. If there's a tie for fourth place -- which is still possible -- I will be casting the deciding vote. The responsibility is not one that I'm sure I'm prepared for. Casting the deciding vote in case of a tie? That's a large weight to put on anyone's shoulders. Makes me feel like someone. Can't....quite...place.... Oh hell no! Edited July 2, 2009 by kingzog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Austin Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 We are doing all this just to get your approval and love. heh no need for my approval or love..i am just a face in the crowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhelm1908 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) Heia Nordreich, from a !Gah-Lah-Vah member Edited July 4, 2009 by Wilhelm1908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemhauser Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Heia Nordreich, from a !Gah-Lah-Vah member Wilhelm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ar Pharazon Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 o/ NoR! o/ Charters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Congrats on the shiny new charter, congrats on NOIR admission, and most of all, thank you for leaving more raid for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Congrats on the shiny new charter, congrats on NOIR admission, and most of all, thank you for leaving more raid for us! Enjoy, but please try to remember that tech/land-raiding is terrible practice for a real war. As I (apparently) said in IRC the other day: <@kingzog> I've never seen a boxer say that they trained for an upcoming fight by punching out a bunch of fat kids who weren't expecting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Enjoy, but please try to remember that tech/land-raiding is terrible practice for a real war.As I (apparently) said in IRC the other day: <@kingzog> I've never seen a boxer say that they trained for an upcoming fight by punching out a bunch of fat kids who weren't expecting it. I agree wholeheartedly and love the idea of war games you put forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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