Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (DENN) - Bengaluru, India - The Dragon Empire Astronomical Society has issued a statement today indicating the detection of a very large Near Earth Object given designation # 68430256 by a Tibetan Astronomical Observatory in the Himilayas. The asteroid appears to be about half a KM across and is traveling at a very high rate of speed. Current gravitational telemetry on the asteroid, which is suspected to have a mostly metal consistency, is indicative of a South Atlantic impact in approximately 2 weeks. Dragonisia has no deflection capabilities, but has released this information to the world in the awareness of the potential capabilities of some nations to deflect this object. The anticipated impact time frame is 1-3 months from today's date. Telemetry and observation data is being published worldwide to make all nations aware of the threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Molakia will remind the world that attempting to send Oil Drillers to an asteroid is a very bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Aotearoa has already started planning the mission to remove this threat. A simple remote ship with additional boosters and a grapnel gun will fly to this rock, attach itself via the grapnel, then ignite the boosters in such a way as to accelerate the asteroid away from earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Aotearoa has already started planning the mission to remove this threat. A simple remote ship with additional boosters and a grapnel gun will fly to this rock, attach itself via the grapnel, then ignite the boosters in such a way as to accelerate the asteroid away from earth. "We must ask how you would intend to get a booster that has enough force to move a 1/2 mile in diameter, several million ton rock. It would be far easier to land several rovers on it, each carrying a drill and a nuclear device to plant bombs within it and blow it to small enough pieces that any that are still coming in would burn up in the atmosphere." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) For simple precautionary measures we do encourage a backup plan. Otherwise, we applaud Greater Aotearoa for stepping up to the plate to protect Bob. If you need any aid to help smooth this project in your budget you need merely ask. We do know it is more than likely your state does not need help.. but if something comes up, please consider the offer open. ITDA: Technically you do not have to change its course much currently in order to significantly deviate its long term telemetry projections. That will change rapidly however as it is rapidly approaching Earth and coming under the influence of Gravity. Currently the only force that should need overcome is momentum and the Sun's pull to a far more minimal extent. Edited June 24, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 "Yes," an astronomer at the Universite de Caen says, "but what happens when it comes back in the next some-odd years? What if you attach explosives onto the craft, and once it is at a safe distance from earth, detonate the explosives?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 "Blowing it up may be an equally bad idea given the consistency of the asteroid is mostly metal. It could just shotgun the earth.. and though many would burn up there is still the possibility of chunking. Ideally.. you do a course correction and point the monster at the sun." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 "Blowing it up may be an equally bad idea given the consistency of the asteroid is mostly metal. It could just shotgun the earth.. and though many would burn up there is still the possibility of chunking. Ideally.. you do a course correction and point the monster at the sun." "Yes, we missed the part about it being mostly metal. If needed, we can provide some computer scientists to aid the process of deflecting this monster." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) "We must ask how you would intend to get a booster that has enough force to move a 1/2 mile in diameter, several million ton rock. It would be far easier to land several rovers on it, each carrying a drill and a nuclear device to plant bombs within it and blow it to small enough pieces that any that are still coming in would burn up in the atmosphere." ooc: Only if we send up Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, Michael Clarke Duncan, and that russian guy who's plays the russian character in every Hollywood movie. or... We could watch it plop into the ocean and flood the world, then have Morgan Freeman make a speech after the water recedes. Because the waters will recede, and when they recede we will rebuild. Edited June 24, 2009 by Justinian the Mighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 "We must ask how you would intend to get a booster that has enough force to move a 1/2 mile in diameter, several million ton rock. It would be far easier to land several rovers on it, each carrying a drill and a nuclear device to plant bombs within it and blow it to small enough pieces that any that are still coming in would burn up in the atmosphere." If you are scientifically ignorant is would seem easier. However, with rocket engines providing forces on the level of 5MN, and able to provide over ten minutes of burn, then we would be imparting a change of momentum of 3 G(kgm/s), which is enough to make the course of almost any object deviate by at least half a degree, given its original momentum is less than 343G(kgm/s) To have a momentum that large, you would need a object of more than 1000 million tonnes traveling at more than 20km/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 OOC: What's this I hear about free land once the water recedes? IC: The Nation fully supports Aotearoa's efforts to divert the asteroid without breaking it into more pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 If you are scientifically ignorant is would seem easier. However, with rocket engines providing forces on the level of 5MN, and able to provide over ten minutes of burn, then we would be imparting a change of momentum of 3 G(kgm/s), which is enough to make the course of almost any object deviate by at least half a degree, given its original momentum is less than 343G(kgm/s) To have a momentum that large, you would need a object of more than 1000 million tonnes traveling at more than 20km/s. "I'm sorry we do not have a space program, nor are we arrogant arse-hole who feel the need to make up for our own inadequacies through insults, clearly we are less superior than you in every way." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) "I'm not even going to try to get between you to, but I suggest a duel at 30 paces with .50 cal weapons and no ballistic protection." At least that way someone annoying dies.. He thought. Edited June 24, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 "Blowing it up may be an equally bad idea given the consistency of the asteroid is mostly metal. It could just shotgun the earth.. and though many would burn up there is still the possibility of chunking. Ideally.. you do a course correction and point the monster at the sun." What is worse? A few dozen relatively small impacts of limited damage, or one massive hit that will more than certainly destroy something the size of Louisiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 "I'm not even going to try to get between you to, but I suggest a duel at 30 paces with .50 cal weapons and no ballistic protection."At least that way someone annoying dies.. He thought. "Gleefully. If he accepts, I would do it in a moment's notice." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 What is worse? A few dozen relatively small impacts of limited damage, or one massive hit that will more than certainly destroy something the size of Louisiana. Ignoring the fact that each piece will be radioactive, and enough to destroy a small town. "I'm not even going to try to get between you to, but I suggest a duel at 30 paces with .50 cal weapons and no ballistic protection." Not my problem that their entire nation never passed high school physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 We will send a negotiator to try to reason with the asteroid. I'm sure it doesn't want to destroy all life on the planet. Now, who wants to loan us a ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) Ignoring the fact that each piece will be radioactive, and enough to destroy a small town.Not my problem that their entire nation never passed high school physics. OOC: AJ and I are in high school at this moment, give him a break. IC: We suggest an edit to GA's plan. Instead of mounting a rocket on the spaceship and attempting to land on an object that reflects almost no light, perhaps you could simply hold an "orbit" around the object, using the ship's subtle gravitational pull to shift the asteroid off course enough that the moon's gravity would swing it off course. OOC: That's a real plan that NASA has encase something like this happens. Edited June 24, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Ignoring the fact that each piece will be radioactive, and enough to destroy a small town. A small town in the South Atlantic is better than a thousand miles. Also compared to the previous nuclear winter how will this added radiation matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) OOC: AJ and I are in high school at this moment, give him a break.IC: We suggest an edit to GA's plan. Instead of mounting a rocket on the spaceship and attempting to land on an object that reflects almost no light, perhaps you could simply hold an "orbit" around the object, using the ship's subtle gravitational pull to shift the asteroid off course enough that the moon's gravity would swing it off course. OOC: That's a real plan that NASA has encase something like this happens. A landing on it was never included, simple attachment via grapnel cable would be used. A high velocity grapnel with retractable anchors would penetrate deeply, and hold fast, while a high tension cable transferred the effects of the rocket engine to the asteroid. Holding a fixed point relative to the asteroid requires constant adjustment and motor control to maintain position, while a cable would be set, and rockets ignited, without complicated micro-control. A small town in the South Atlantic is better than a thousand miles. Also compared to the previous nuclear winter how will this added radiation matter. The impact might not be in the atlantic, and even so, tsunamis would occur given any large amounts remaining. Added radioactive matter? The entire fallout of the bomb would be concentrated in what hits the earth, so instead of relatively 'clean' airbursts, you get dirty, lethal rocks. Added to this the lack of a transfer mechanism for the blast and thermal radiation which is the major part of the destructive capabilities of a nuclear weapon, and you end up with a rather inefficient bomb, which again, given the metallic composition of this asteroid would not be the best idea even if all effects were included. Edited June 24, 2009 by LeVentNoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 A landing on it was never included, simple attachment via grapnel cable would be used. A high velocity grapnel with retractable anchors would penetrate deeply, and hold fast, while a high tension cable transferred the effects of the rocket engine to the asteroid. Holding a fixed point relative to the asteroid requires constant adjustment and motor control to maintain position, while a cable would be set, and rockets ignited, without complicated micro-control. Due to rotation, a cable might not work. If the rotation isn't fast enough, it would swing the ship onto the rock, meaning the entire mission would fail. Why make the mission so unnecessarily complicated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 OOC: lulwt? Who gave you permission to roleplay something that, should LVN or anyone else fail, will destroy my nation? So not recognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsage Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 OOC: I dunno. It'd be pretty cool if it fails; and this is coming from the guy with ALL of his cities on the coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 OOC: I dunno. It'd be pretty cool if it fails; and this is coming from the guy with ALL of his cities on the coast. OOC: This would take out like 9/10ths of Florida... which is my entire nation. Doing this with so little time for people like me to prepare for the effects or be able to do anything about it is unfair, and unrecognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 OOC: Some of our nations have SDIs which are based upon high energy lasers. They basically work on the effect of shock on missile bodies and secondary effect of burning through. Why dont we just train some number of SDIs at this asteroid? Would be much easier as a first choice option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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