We withdraw.

[mykep]

Hm, would they hold it against us for violating our agreements, and the like?

CLASSIFIED

The nation was once again placed on DEFCON 2. The Armed Forces remained on high alert, though. It is not known if the federal government was going to do something about it, or even to get involved.

Nothing wrong with the cancellation of an NAP to defend an MADP partner. Its up to, I'd rather just see peace in my day.

[Arkantos]

"What do we see here is one party, frustrated by a lack of independence, decided to acquire freedom the hard way - yet, said party's resolve seem to be little more than mentioning "freedom' every five words they speak and ironically not taking the freedom to think and be intelligent by any means, clearly not seeking any sort of diplomatic end and solely resorting to bravados and meaningless defiance.

The other party is the one in control, the winners of the previous American Civil War. That's dandy and all, but they obviously wish that they could maul the UAS all over again because they had so much fun killing their people - with the leaders they have, I don't blame them at all but they could show who's got the bigger brain."

"We urge both parties to come to their sense and find a diplomatic solution before blood is shed and property is lost - we can provide a safe and neutral ground for sane talks and negotiations. If all else fails, we can but lament that America is once again embroiled in war over trivialities that could be defused. Our borders will remain open for refugees and volunteers will attempt to bring in humanitarian aid for the war victims."

If they will talk, so will we.

[Manetheren]

Technically the Tahoe Republic never agreed to peace with the UAS, although we have not taken any action against that state.

That said, we support Louisiana and Xaristan, although truly wish for peace to be restored to North America.

[Michael McBride]

"What do we see here is one party, frustrated by a lack of independence, decided to acquire freedom the hard way - yet, said party's resolve seem to be little more than mentioning "freedom' every five words they speak and ironically not taking the freedom to think and be intelligent by any means, clearly not seeking any sort of diplomatic end and solely resorting to bravados and meaningless defiance.

The other party is the one in control, the winners of the previous American Civil War. That's dandy and all, but they obviously wish that they could maul the UAS all over again because they had so much fun killing their people - with the leaders they have, I don't blame them at all but they could show who's got the bigger brain."

"We urge both parties to come to their sense and find a diplomatic solution before blood is shed and property is lost - we can provide a safe and neutral ground for sane talks and negotiations. If all else fails, we can but lament that America is once again embroiled in war over trivialities that could be defused. Our borders will remain open for refugees and volunteers will attempt to bring in humanitarian aid for the war victims."

I'll have you note that not a single UAS citizen was killed in the last American Civil War. The time for talk is done. The UAS willingly signed a peace treaty with Louisiana that was mediated by an international committee. They have now decided that they want to break that agreement to try and get better terms. It doesn't work that way. They want war, they will get it.

[Sargun II]

All at once, two dozen e-missiles (like e-bombs BUT ON MISSILES) erupted from their silos across Louisiana, streamed over the Ardorian and Tennessee borders and aimed themselves at the power grid UAS. If they detonated like planned, the entire power grid would be fried and unrepairable - at best, all primary power across the country would be put out. They had no qualms about shutting down the power - places like hospitals and airports would have backups, but the majority of the citizens would be without power and minor military installations unlucky enough to be in the radius of an actual missile would be fried.

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Louisiana would like to open diplomatic channels with everyone but the UAS who wishes to make a query or comment.

[Sargun II]

"The other party is the one in control, the winners of the previous American Civil War. That's dandy and all, but they obviously wish that they could maul the UAS all over again because they had so much fun killing their people - with the leaders they have, I don't blame them at all but they could show who's got the bigger brain."

"The UAS was one of the key states in influencing the non-war on Xaristan, and held out until last. Not until they realized that their actions had consequences did they attempt to make peace. We only agreed to peace through neutral mediating - and one of the clauses was that war would be taken if either side violated the treaty. That they were too impatient to take punishment for their actions, not to mention their aggressiveness, shows worrying characteristics from an American nation. That their entire government is in disarray shows instability, and so we feel that this war will do more good than harm."

Technically the Tahoe Republic never agreed to peace with the UAS, although we have not taken any action against that state.

That said, we support Louisiana and Xaristan, although truly wish for peace to be restored to North America.

Peace will be restored. It will simply take some bullets to do it.

Edited June 19, 2009 by Sargun

[JEDCJT]

We inquire this: what does Louisiana and Xaristan plan to do with the AUS when the war is over?

That, and since our MDAP with the AUS was cancelled when the UAS signed that treaty in the first place, and the fact that the UAS cancelled the agreement unilaterally (the cancellation seem to need Louisianan approval for it to officially take effect, thus the MDAP remains cancelled), we will not do anything.

Edited June 19, 2009 by JEDCJT

[loannes]

We inquire this: Why do you insist on this drama? Our Secretary of State flatlined cause of it.

[Michael McBride]

We inquire this: what does Louisiana and Xaristan plan to do with the AUS when the war is over?

What do we plan to do with it? Nothing. This is not a land grab. Xaristan has no interest in having any other land than what she currently possesses. We wish the removal of the current government, all of it, and peace to return to the North American continent. That is all.

**Classified**

With word that Louisiana had launched their e-missiles, the 1st and 2nd Bomber Squadrons, escorted by the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 13th Interceptor squadrons and supported by the 6th, 7th, and 8th Assault Squadrons (fighter/bombers) took off, heading out over the ocean and up the coast to attack easternmost UAS military installations and airports. They would avoid all other territory, and the Interceptors and Fighter/bombers carried fuel pods to ensure they could complete the round-trip journey.

[Arkantos]

EMP missiles hit the power stations, and the lights bagan to flicker out across the nation. From Philadelphia to Baltimore, not a light could be seen, save for cars. Many people, anticipating war, had bought diesel generators, but those were few and far between. In Washington, key places like the White House, the Capitol Building, and CIA HQ still had power, but the rest were dark. Across the river, the Pentagon still had power as well. The Blackout rolled across the nation, and penetrated somewhat into neighboring nations, but their systems would compensate. Military bases and seats of government still had power. There weren't any military bases near any of the sustations, so no military hardware was effected directly by the missiles. However, only the main grid was down. In the subgrid, the government secretly had power still flowing, in case they needed to power the country again for a few minutes.

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We would like to point out that out government is not in disarray. We currently have aPresident, Vice-President, a full Congress, a full Supreme Court, and all Cabinet positions are filled. On the Xaristan issue, it was Louisana that brought the issue to bear, so you are as at fault there as we are. And where have we shown aggressiveness? I ask for simple evidence. And more good than harm? Since when is war ever good?

[Arkantos]

We inquire this: what does Louisiana and Xaristan plan to do with the AUS when the war is over?

That, and since our MDAP with the AUS was cancelled when the AUS signed that treaty in the first place, and the fact that the AUS cancelled the agreement unilaterally (the cancellation seem to need Louisianan approval for it to officially take effect, thus the MDAP remains cancelled), we will not do anything.

OOC: UAS Jed, UAS.

IC: When did we cancel our MDAP? We clearly did not, seeing as we activated it, which you are now refusing to do.

[JEDCJT]

OOC: UAS Jed, UAS.

IC: When did we cancel our MDAP? We clearly did not, seeing as we activated it, which you are now refusing to do.

OOC: Sorry...

IC: Oh, perhaps we mixed up our words. Cancelled isn't the right word, please pardon us. As we were stating, our MDAP was suspended when you signed that treaty with Louisiana. To our understanding, for the cancellation to formally take effect, you need Louisiana's approval and affirmation on this. Since it isn't forthcoming, the MDAP legally remains suspended.

Edited June 19, 2009 by JEDCJT

[Michael McBride]

EMP missiles hit the power stations, and the lights bagan to flicker out across the nation. From Philadelphia to Baltimore, not a light could be seen, save for cars. Many people, anticipating war, had bought diesel generators, but those were few and far between. In Washington, key places like the White House, the Capitol Building, and CIA HQ still had power, but the rest were dark. Across the river, the Pentagon still had power as well. The Blackout rolled across the nation, and penetrated somewhat into neighboring nations, but their systems would compensate. Military bases and seats of government still had power. There weren't any military bases near any of the sustations, so no military hardware was effected directly by the missiles. However, only the main grid was down. In the subgrid, the government secretly had power still flowing, in case they needed to power the country again for a few minutes.

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We would like to point out that out government is not in disarray. We currently have aPresident, Vice-President, a full Congress, a full Supreme Court, and all Cabinet positions are filled. On the Xaristan issue, it was Louisana that brought the issue to bear, so you are as at fault there as we are. And where have we shown aggressiveness? I ask for simple evidence. And more good than harm? Since when is war ever good?

OOC: Everything, including cars, military bases, government buildings, would be fried by the EMP unless you can point us to you roleplay the EMP-proofing of those facilities.

[Arkantos]

OOC: Everything, including cars, military bases, government buildings, would be fried by the EMP unless you can point us to you roleplay the EMP-proofing of those facilities.

OOC: He emp'd the power stations, not cities. most, if not all, power stations are in rural areas.

[Arkantos]

OOC: Sorry...

IC: Oh, perhaps we mixed up our words. Cancelled isn't the right word, please pardon us. As we were stating, our MDAP was suspended when you signed that treaty with Louisiana. To our understanding, for the cancellation to formally take effect, you need Louisiana's approval and affirmation on this. Since it isn't forthcoming, the MDAP legally remains suspended.

Except that we are no longer under their control. We do not need their permission for treaties any more. So, you can consider it unsuspended and activated.

[Sargun II]

Except that we are no longer under their control. We do not need their permission for treaties any more. So, you can consider it unsuspended and activated.

Incorrect. We are at war because the treaty still applies. The treaty is still in play, and all articles are still in effect - we have only activated one.

[Arkantos]

Incorrect. We are at war because the treaty still applies. The treaty is still in play, and all articles are still in effect - we have only activated one.

But we have not signed it, therefore, you have a treayt in which one party recognizes it, and one does not, so a treaty signed by one nation, but not the other, is irrelevent and useless. We consider the treaty to be broken and no longer in effect.

[JEDCJT]

But we have not signed it, therefore, you have a treayt in which one party recognizes it, and one does not, so a treaty signed by one nation, but not the other, is irrelevent and useless. We consider the treaty to be broken and no longer in effect.

Ah, but we believe that the treaty can be truly considered no longer in effect if both you and Louisiana agree to that. Until you do, we are afraid we can do nothing. We apologize.

[Sargun II]

But we have not signed it, therefore, you have a treayt in which one party recognizes it, and one does not, so a treaty signed by one nation, but not the other, is irrelevent and useless. We consider the treaty to be broken and no longer in effect.

Legally, the treaty is valid. You can try to lawyer your way out of it, but everyone else will look through it.

Enjoy.

[Michael McBride]

OOC: He emp'd the power stations, not cities. most, if not all, power stations are in rural areas.

OOC: An EMP does not impact it's target. It explodes in the air, like a nuke. While the epicenter may be the power stations, he did specifically say large cities as well. With 12 launched, and you not shooting any down, all electronic power in your nation is likely gone at this point.

[Sargun II]

OOC: An EMP does not impact it's target. It explodes in the air, like a nuke. While the epicenter may be the power stations, he did specifically say large cities as well. With 12 launched, and you not shooting any down, all electronic power in your nation is likely gone at this point.

OOC: Twenty-four launched.

[JEDCJT]

OOC: An EMP does not impact it's target. It explodes in the air, like a nuke. While the epicenter may be the power stations, he did specifically say large cities as well. With 12 launched, and you not shooting any down, all electronic power in your nation is likely gone at this point.

OOC: 12?! Three EMPs alone would be more than enough to shut down the entire USA. But 12? It would be overkill...

EDIT: 24? Tsk...

Edited June 19, 2009 by JEDCJT

[Arkantos]

at best, all primary power across the country would be put out.

OOC: There. Happy?And all primary power is out.

[LeVentNoir]

OOC: 12?! Three EMPs alone would be more than enough to shut down the entire USA. But 12? It would be overkill...

EDIT: 24? Tsk...

OOC that study was done with nuclear detonations providing the EMP. NN-EMP have a radius of around 10-20 km, however in that radius, consider anything with a semi conductor gone. Even induction motor, light bulbs and some other items will be destroyed with the large current / voltage surge.

[Arkantos]

OOC that study was done with nuclear detonations providing the EMP. NN-EMP have a radius of around 10-20 km, however in that radius, consider anything with a semi conductor gone. Even induction motor, light bulbs and some other items will be destroyed with the large current / voltage surge.

OOC: Again, I used Sargun's own statement as a basis to base the damages on.