King Srqt Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 This speaks so much truth.The actions of Karma, right now, at this vital point in CN's history, will either define them as a great force in the world, or a new tyrant. And with every action of spitting in the faces and kicking those of us whom are done, a new hatred breeds, this time, from the opposite side of things. If things continue as are, history will repeat itself, and soon enough CN will be cheering on as a new coalition brings down Karma. Mark my words. Taking down an alliance who has been oppressing anyone who they felt they could over the last 3 years is not equatable to 3 years of oppression. Your attempt to euate the two just shows that you have learned nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Taking down an alliance who has been oppressing anyone who they felt they could over the last 3 years is not equatable to 3 years of oppression. Your attempt to euate the two just shows that you have learned nothing. That's arrogant to think that Pacifica were the aggressors in all of its past conflicts. The Pacifican hand was forced a many a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus von Ausburg Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 The Great War I II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 That's arrogant to think that Pacifica were the aggressors in all of its past conflicts. The Pacifican hand was forced a many a time. forced how? By getting spied info that other alliances were spying, or by hunting down re-rolls to enforce surrender terms that were over a year old? Yes poor Pacifica always getting pushed into oppressing the world, what a hard life it must have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Glaucon Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 But at what point does Karma Coalition become the new great tyrant of power on planet Bob? If they ever participate in a bunch of beat-downs on alliances for little or no reason, then maybe you can start throwing this language around. We are down. How much sand will you kick in our faces? You're hardly down yet. You're stills sanctioned, and still bigger than most alliances. The amount of whining about being victims coming from NPO members is staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 forced how? By getting spied info that other alliances were spying, or by hunting down re-rolls to enforce surrender terms that were over a year old?Yes poor Pacifica always getting pushed into oppressing the world, what a hard life it must have been. I don't quite follow you. You seem to be ranting. Perhaps you should look up some major conflicts and their contributing triggers for conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) I don't believe I used the word change in the quote you used. I do believe your own government and many of your members have claimed they've changed. Do you consider yourself an outlier from your alliance's "stance"? If so, I hear it's not healthy for a Pacifican to hold individualistic opinions that don't match company policy. Basically, either you are contradicting your own alliance or they're lying about change. I'll let you have first pick. EDIT: Misspelled a word Edited June 14, 2009 by Matthew Conrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 You're hardly down yet. You're stills sanctioned, and still bigger than most alliances.The amount of whining about being victims coming from NPO members is staggering. Awww is someone scared of the NPO boogeyman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 That's arrogant to think that Pacifica were the aggressors in all of its past conflicts. The Pacifican hand was forced a many a time. Looking at the list of the wars you've been in, the Warpstorm War two years ago is the only instance I can find where Pacifica was attacked aggressively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Haha, oh man I love the signatures of the first posters. Positively brilliant, the amount of emo dripping forth in one horribly biased topic. I think FAN was onto something with their labeling of certain groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkphysics Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I forgot that the new ebil Karma coalition plans to retain power and push forward through the ends of time. Geez, I always thought they were a temporary and very loosely joined group of pissed off alliances who are fed up with the BS and NPO bullying? Man, I am out of the loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedian Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Haha, oh man I love the signatures of the first posters. Positively brilliant, the amount of emo dripping forth in one horribly biased topic. I think FAN was onto something with their labeling of certain groups. Yet, I wonder what box you ticked. My guess is "The War for your Self Esteem" option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Haha, oh man I love the signatures of the first posters. Positively brilliant, the amount of emo dripping forth in one horribly biased topic. I think FAN was onto something with their labeling of certain groups. I'm glad you like it. I quoted it from a very nice work of fiction I found on the forums one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Looking at the list of the wars you've been in, the Warpstorm War two years ago is the only instance I can find where Pacifica was attacked aggressively. Sometimes pushed into wars by treaty partners but most importantly sometimes pushed into war because of others transgressions. What does your alliance do when they find spies in their alliance from others? Has their treaty partners attacked? Has their protectorates attacked? THe Pacific is the worlds escape goat for all of the worlds problems and all past wars. Pacifica has done little to nothing to ignite wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkphysics Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Sometimes pushed into wars by treaty partners but most importantly sometimes pushed into war because of others transgressions. What does your alliance do when they find spies in their alliance from others? Has their treaty partners attacked? Has their protectorates attacked? THe Pacific is the worlds escape goat for all of the worlds problems and all past wars. Pacifica has done little to nothing to ignite wars. I have a very strong feeling your last line is going to incite massive amounts of face palming and beverage drenched key boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yet, I wonder what box you ticked. My guess is "The War for your Self Esteem" option. Null vote, actually. I really don't care about the game enough to have it actually affect my Self Esteem, as is probably evident by my lack of presence during the part of the war where I could be reveling the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Wolfe Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 The Karma War. No one ever said this was some glorious goody-goody-two-shoes Level 20 Paladins taking down the "essence of evil." Karma implies revenge, and this is exactly what this war is all about. The name fits. Leave it be already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I don't quite follow you. You seem to be ranting. Perhaps you should look up some major conflicts and their contributing triggers for conflict. Some examples of what I was talking about would be GW3 when you accepted spied information about GATO to get a CB, The ONOS war when you accepted spied information to get a CB, the most recent GATO war where you accepted spied information to hunt down a reroll to enforce terms that were oevr a year old and then this most recent war where you accepted spied info in order to attack OV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Some examples of what I was talking about would be GW3 when you accepted spied information about GATO to get a CB, The ONOS war when you accepted spied information to get a CB, the most recent GATO war where you accepted spied information to hunt down a reroll to enforce terms that were oevr a year old and then this most recent war where you accepted spied info in order to attack OV. Well gee is that the only examples you could come up with? I wasn't part of the order during those times but I was around. ONOS had a spy ring..simple as that. In GWIII GATO was spying on the order and plotting to destroy it. Later on they accepted back in knowledge and under conspiracy Kaos. And of course you come to the latest war where a member of OV was spying. Does that make the NPO the trigger for these conflicts...certainly not. I'm not here to debate history. But your point that the Order was the oppressor is clearly flawed. I have a very strong feeling your last line is going to incite massive amounts of face palming and beverage drenched key boards. Then the beers on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Well gee is that the only examples you could come up with? I wasn't part of the order during those times but I was around. ONOS had a spy ring..simple as that. In GWIII GATO was spying on the order and plotting to destroy it. Later on they accepted back in knowledge and under conspiracy Kaos. And of course you come to the latest war where a member of OV was spying. Does that make the NPO the trigger for these conflicts...certainly not. I'm not here to debate history. But your point that the Order was the oppressor is clearly flawed. I love how you ignore the fact that you would have had no CB's in those wars if you did not spy. So it is OK to spy if the NPO does it but not if anyone else does it? Yeah NPO had nothing to do with igniting wars, ya know, except for declaring all of those wars. Edited June 14, 2009 by KingSrqt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Has the Karma War been said yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) I love how you ignore the fact that you would have had no CB's in those wars if you did not spy. So it is OK to spy if the NPO does it but not if anyone else does it?Yeah NPO had nothing to do with igniting wars, ya know, except for declaring all of those wars. There are no facts to ignore. Your stating inaccurate assumptions. Sometimes little birdies sing and you can hear it. Glad we moved on from your oppressor comment. Seems that we are making progress. Edited June 14, 2009 by BastardofGod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 There is no facts to ignore. Your stating inaccurate assumptions. Sometimes little birdies sing and you can hear it. Glad we moved on from your oppressor comment. Seems that we are making progress. Cheyenne spied for NPO to start GW3 Da Choice spied for NPO to start the ONOS war TPF got spied info to give to NPO to start this war Not sure who passed on the info about Chris Kaos but I am sure it didn't come to Moo in a dream. those are not assumptions they are facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Cheyenne spied for NPO to start GW3Da Choice spied for NPO to start the ONOS war TPF got spied info to give to NPO to start this war Not sure who passed on the info about Chris Kaos but I am sure it didn't come to Moo in a dream. those are not assumptions they are facts. KingSrqt, that makes no sense and you know it. /sarcasm Edited June 14, 2009 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King DrunkWino Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 BastardofGod? I highly suggest you return to the NPO boards and have your masters whip you for not learning your lessons on propaganda. I know enough about the NPO that they're much better than the rather low grade easily refutable drivel you've brought here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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