Francesca Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) It wasn't such a long time ago. I'm sure many of you will remember. It was the era of the Pacifican glory days, and enemies of Pacifica and/ or her allies were being sentenced to EZI. As a result of this, hundreds of people signed petitions of people like WarriorConcept. Unnoticed upon that list, I quietly signed my name. If I may address the people who signed those petitions directly for a minute... you did not just swear to oppose EZI when Pacifica did it. You swore to oppose it regardless of which alliance it was that sentenced people to EZI, and regardless of what crimes they had committed. And here is the crux of the matter: EZI is not just wrong when Pacifica does it. What made Pacifica so tyrannical in the first place is that they condoned practices like EZI. Therefore, EZI is just as wrong when others do it as when Pacifica does it. On these forums, on the Vox forums, on IRC..... I have seen EZI being discussed as a method of punishment for Pacifica's leadership in certain circles. Well, tonight I fulfil my oath. I oppose sentencing NPO's leadership to EZI. I also call upon every person who signed the petition to oppose EZI to stand against EZIing Pacifica's leadership, regardless of whether or not they like Pacifica. And for those of you who did not sign the petition, I call upon you to reconsider. I have fought so hard against the hegemony, these past few months. Don't let us become the very thing we seek to destroy. “The quality of mercy is not strained, it droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven, upon the place beneath… it is twice blessed.” - William Shakespeare. Edited May 23, 2009 by Francesca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatherum Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) Gatherum smiled proudly at Francesca, and affixed his seal to this movement, nodding. Edited May 23, 2009 by Gatherum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Benji Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 True Karma is a harsh thing to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Though retired from active gameplay Freelancer sends a *nod* to Francesca with the hopes her message is heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) EZI is unacceptable. I don't think Karma would go this far. Edited May 23, 2009 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 EZI is unacceptable. I don't think Karma would go this far. I'm glad you think so, but Karma is hardly unified in philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussolandia Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Wipe them out. All of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Wipe them out.All of them. Your faith in your apprentice...misplaced may be. As is your faith in the Dark Side of the Force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrator Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 True Karma is a harsh thing to give. No kidding. Random peaceniks always get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I salute you Francesca and I am too opposed to EZI! - All kinds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Why do you doubt those that signed the petition. I don't think this topic was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learz Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I notice PZI is not mentioned in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Why do you doubt those that signed the petition.I don't think this topic was necessary. It seems that many of them signed it simply because it was something associated with Pacifica, or at least that is the conclusion I have come to, as now people are talking about sentencing NPO leadership to EZI. I notice PZI is not mentioned in the OP. I don't think PZI is as important as EZI, but I'm not a great fan of PZI either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 It seems that many of them signed it simply because it was something associated with Pacifica, or at least that is the conclusion I have come to, as now people are talking about sentencing NPO leadership to EZI. /me shrugs. I'm not one of those and I signed the petition. You may attack me if I will not live up to it. Also, I doubt anyone would ever try to sentence NPO govt to EZI. It's pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 EZIing NPO's leadership would be pointless indeed, and as such I oppose it on a practical level. PZIing them and thus forcing them to reroll on the other hand, i've no objection to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander III Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Opposition to EZI is strong, and I doubt that the EZI'ing of the NPO leadership is what Karma set out to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Opposition to EZI is strong, and I doubt that the EZI'ing of the NPO leadership is what Karma set out to do. I'm not saying they set out to do this, I'm saying that now that the power structure is beginning to change these discussions are happening, and it is concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) I didn't sign any petition for the P/EZI business but if I see it, they may as well put me on that list too because I'll rogue any alliance who puts it back into practice. Enough is enough is enough. Just play the game don't take control of it. Edited May 23, 2009 by The AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 EZI is an OOC attack in my mind PZI is not Well I will fight against EZI I will not go out of my way to oppose PZI but I wont support it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiant Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I think any form of ZI that ruins the fun for a person in this game should not be allowed. It simply is not right. Also, having been on PZI myself, it seems that you think it is easy for someone to simply reroll their nation. It is not. A one time trip to Zero Infrastructure? Ok, I can understand that. But selective assault on someone over and over again? No. Not cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Far as I know, no leadership from Karma has advocated EZI for the so called Hegemony members. It as a practice, keeping players out of the game, is not acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 True Karma is a harsh thing to give. Heck, we can't 'give' true Karma to anyone. Don't you watch the Simpson's? Homer: You're...selling what, now? Apu: I am selling only the concept of karmic realignment. Homer: You can't sell that! Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos. [slams the door] Apu: He's got me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I never liked the term Karma. I'm Catholic so maybe PENANCE would have been a better name. We could make NPO say twenty Hail Marys and then confess their sins to CCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seerow Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 EZIing NPO's leadership would be pointless indeed, and as such I oppose it on a practical level.PZIing them and thus forcing them to reroll on the other hand, i've no objection to. Forcing anybody to reroll is impossible. I'm living proof of that. More than a year in PZI from NPO, and managed to get off eventually about 2-3 months ago. Old Grudges die eventually, people will eventually feel placated enough to let them off the hook, things eventually return to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) I never liked the term Karma. I'm Catholic so maybe PENANCE would have been a better name. We could make NPO say twenty Hail Marys and then confess their sins to CCC. It's a Buddhist concept, or maybe Hindu. Based on the philosophy "what goes around, comes around." I don't believe in it but some do. Similar to the modern concept of "do unto others as you'd like them to do onto you." [OOC]Also, I'm Orthodox and I find our Catholic concepts rather corrupt.[/OOC] Edited May 23, 2009 by The AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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