Sumeragi Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 East Turkistan, Altin Urda The sky of Ürümqi, the pearl of the Silk Road, was a icy blue. As the season slowly changed to winter, frost was seen on the ground of this Middle Asian city. It was quiet during the day, with not a single people or car to be seen. Near Ürümqi, on the road to a village, stood 200 frightened Hui. The soldiers surrounding the civilians watched this people with sharp, cold eyes. A woman was trying to calm a crying baby. The war for independence waged against the central Altin Urda government by the Hui was slowly coming to an end. The Waffen-SSA had already stamped out the forces of the Hui Islamic Movement and other independence groups, and had executed the leaders by public shooting. Most of the remaining fighters had surrendered, and now it was just mass murder by the Turkics. Dust was rising from a hill far away. Soon a line of armored vehicles came rolling towards the people. The Hui, one by one, watched the trucks. A black tank, with the white snowcaps of the Tienshan mountain range in the backgroud, came in sight. The face of a old man turned pale. "It's the devil on the black horse! It's Kämpfer's iron horse!" The Hui started panicking at the words of the old man. There was a rumor of a devil on the black horse, a rider on a iron horse who tore to pieces all those that dared look her in the face. It has been said that not a single grass survived wherever she went. The women and children all began crying, and some of the men bowed toward the southwest, to the Holy City of Mecca. Death was near. As the black tank came near, all the people lowered there heads as to not see the devil. A a petite blonde in black uniform came out of the hatch. She slowly looked that the Hui, and then shouted something into her walkie-talkie. Ghastly scream starting ringing. There were occasional gunshots among the cries of both adult and child. Surrounded by a circle of carriers and soldiers, the black tank was crushing the people. The Hui tried to escape, but either went under the treads or got mowed down by the soldiers. The blue grass slowly reddened with blood. A single 12-year old girl with a half crushed leg, crying, tried to crawl toward her village. The tank backed and overtook her. A column of smoke rose from the burning little huts. OOC: Continuing my Sacred Conflict RP, I'll be expanding it to show how Altin Urda fell. Be prepared for some..... harsh scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: Please mention the timeline of this incident. Urumqi and its environs are now part of Cochin. A discrete timeline will separate this history from that of Cochin's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: Before you were set up. Remember how I was banned and Central Asia opened up? You can sweep in from the south after I'm finished with the killing orgies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: >_> This is pretty much not legal. It has been said before you cannot RP the citizens of your old rolls, even as historic RP's. I would like the other GM's to look at this, but I feel this is not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) Unknown location The crumbling dirt walls showed just how dilapidated the small building was. Two man were quietly discussing something in the shadows. “..... You mean everyone?” “Yes, the SSA managed to crack all the Hui cells and liquidated them, while anyone related to the rebels were either slaughtered or deported to the camps. Insurrection isn't the way.” “Then we'll have to strike at the heads of the infidels. Can you contact the Jackal and order hits?” “I can, but we'll only be able to take out one. The others are too well protected.” “Even a minor success should buy us time to reorganize.” “All right, I'll go and activate him.” “Allah Akbar!” With the meeting over, they melted into the darkness. OOC: As long as it does not affect the current owners of the land, I do not see why this would be against the rules. Besides, it's tough to let go of a story I've worked on for a long time. Edited May 23, 2009 by Sumeragi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: As long as it does not affect the current owners of the land, I do not see why this would be against the rules. Besides, it's tough to let go of a story I've worked on for a long time. OOC: Because I can see you wish to move the people off that land and to where Yamato will be. >_>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: Because I can see you wish to move the people off that land and to where Yamato will be. >_>. OOC: I had given her permission to repatriate her old people from my present lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: Because I can see you wish to move the people off that land and to where Yamato will be. >_>. OOC: Nope, since Niko/Cochin already solved the problem for me. The only group left to claim is in Mindanao, and I've given up on that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 OOC: >_> This is pretty much not legal. It has been said before you cannot RP the citizens of your old rolls, even as historic RP's.I would like the other GM's to look at this, but I feel this is not legal. OOC: Since Cochin apparently gave her permission, I have no problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: I had given her permission to repatriate her old people from my present lands. OOC: That would be having the people move out in the RP timeline present, allowable, not Rping them leaving before you gained the land, which is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: I am letting the people leave in the present IF they are in my land right now. Examining information that states that the Kyokujitsins in question were never in Cochin , but rather in Manchuria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: I am letting the people leave in the present IF they are in my land right now. Examining information that states that the Kyokujitsins in question were never in Cochin , but rather in Manchuria. OOC: This this is not legal. This is a historic Rp of citizens you do not control now, so not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) OOC: This this is not legal. This is a historic Rp of citizens you do not control now, so not legal. OOC: You are the only one complaining, if anyone who actually has part in this complains, you would be making a valid point. However, you are just spreading you bias, and using your power in needless ways, and generally being a subpar GM (As predicted) Please shut up, and let the people RP Edited May 24, 2009 by Il Terra Di Agea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: You are the only one complaining, if anyone who actually has part in this complains, you would be making a valid point. However, you are just spreading you bias, and using your power in needless ways, and generally being a subpar GM (As predicted)Please shut up, and let the people RP OOC: Sure, lets allow cheating if does not effect anyone else. I like to think that I can help to stop cheating, by being hardline on it. If you do not like my attitude, well, complain to the mods. I do not care if I am liked or not, if I am accused of bias or not. I shall point out out and note all illegal Rp and Rp moves whenever I can. I will do this even if I am stripped of GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: This this is not legal. This is a historic Rp of citizens you do not control now, so not legal. OOC: I was RP'ing it out on the basis of information telling me that the people in question were settled in my territory and now wanted to emigrate to Yamato. I have received fresh data which tells me those people were never in my land in the first place, so I must withdraw my RP's allowing them to move to Yamato. The Kyokujitsins whom I have erroneously allowed to emigrate were never in Cochin in the first place, they were in Manchuria. I do not have right to RP them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: I was RP'ing it out on the basis of information telling me that the people in question were settled in my territory and now wanted to emigrate to Yamato. I have received fresh data which tells me those people were never in my land in the first place, so I must withdraw my RP's allowing them to move to Yamato. The Kyokujitsins whom I have erroneously allowed to emigrate were never in Cochin in the first place, they were in Manchuria. I do not have right to RP them. OOC: Thank you. This is the entire lovely point. If they are not your citizens, you cannot Rp them, anywhere along the time line. Simple truth table thing. You CAN historic Rp your own citizens, to any extent. You CAN historic Rp other peoples citizens if they give permission and it does not effect the present. You CAN RP other peoples citizens in the present if they give permission. You CANNOT Rp other peoples citizens at any time, when you do not have permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: Thank you. This is the entire lovely point. If they are not your citizens, you cannot Rp them, anywhere along the time line.Simple truth table thing. You CAN historic Rp your own citizens, to any extent. You CAN historic Rp other peoples citizens if they give permission and it does not effect the present. You CAN RP other peoples citizens in the present if they give permission. You CANNOT Rp other peoples citizens at any time, when you do not have permission. I was not breaking any rules at the time of my posting. I was informed that the people in question were indeed in my territory and I was Rping them out in the present. I was making no Rp's about their pasts. I did the RP as per the request of the nation to whom the people belonged to originally. Again I did not break any rules. I had the permission. End of the issue: I had the permissions but the RP was flawed in that the people whom i RP'ed were never in my land in the first place. That I apologize for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I was not breaking any rules at the time of my posting. I was informed that the people in question were indeed in my territory and I was Rping them out in the present. I was making no Rp's about their pasts.I did the RP as per the request of the nation to whom the people belonged to originally. Again I did not break any rules. I had the permission. End of the issue: I had the permissions but the RP was flawed in that the people whom i RP'ed were never in my land in the first place. That I apologize for. OOC: I was not telling you off. I was telling sumeragi, she was attempting to do a historic RP of people who are not currently her citizens without the RP who controls them now's permission. When she stopped Rping Altin Urda and started Rping Yamato, she gave up the ability to RP the people of Altin Urda. Since their current controller has not given her permission to Rp with them, then she can conduct no RP's where she controls them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OOC: Glad that matter is settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 End of the issue: I had the permissions but the RP was flawed in that the people whom i RP'ed were never in my land in the first place. That I apologize for. Check the Neo Tokyo Times Thread. Never Listen to banned idiots who never read other's RPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Check the Neo Tokyo Times Thread. Never Listen to banned idiots who never read other's RPs. There is definitely no need for this. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Check the Neo Tokyo Times Thread. Never Listen to banned idiots who never read other's RPs. I checked that thread and was convinced by post #46 that all Kyokujitsins were in Manchuria and hence out of my jurisdiction. there are no Kyokujitsins in Cochin . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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