Bhunivelze Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 well I know whoever was updating the scores of the war on the wiki was using a script to do it, but I don't have enough time to make one, nor do I have enough time to go through all of the Karma alliances to calculate the scores However, I did retrieve all of Hegemony's current stats, so here is how all our "buddies" over at Hegemony are fairing(This was completed at +23 hours) 1,934 Total Nations 24,028,582 Total Strength 13,924 Avg. Strength 101.94 Score 2,838 Nukes P.S. -- Hopefully the person who was updating the war stats goes back to it, because I enjoyed checking em out each morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerus the great Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Considering the odds i believe we are doing a great job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un4Gvn1 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Considering the odds i believe we are doing a great job... Agreed. What is it now? Approximately 121 alliances vs. 7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Agreed. What is it now? Approximately 121 alliances vs. 7? Not to detract from the point you're supporting, but that's a meaningless metric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanveldez Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 as I agree with the op I also enjoyed getting up in the morning and checking those stats. I hope that whom ever was doing it gets back to doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Considering the odds i believe we are doing a great job... a great job doing what? Seeing as how the sides were fairly even at the start of this war I'd beg to differ. For the ones still there you should send some spies over to mk and try to learn how we managed to kick so much $@! against the odds last war. Remember, all alliances accept information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Considering the odds i believe we are doing a great job... You're all such a bunch of powerful warriors!! I for one am impressed, to say the least. I peed my pants just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caligula Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 a great job doing what? Seeing as how the sides were fairly even at the start of this war I'd beg to differ.For the ones still there you should send some spies over to mk and try to learn how we managed to kick so much $@! against the odds last war. Remember, all alliances accept information. unneccessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhunivelze Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) Considering the odds i believe we are doing a great job... You might want to recheck that, at the start of this war Hegemony had roughly 24m NS more than Karma, the fact that you no longer have that does not mean the odds were not in your favor, it just means that you didn't use them correctly, and woke the beast in the process. Your new odds are of your own doing. Edited May 15, 2009 by Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You might want to recheck that, at the start of this war Hegemony had roughly 24m NS more than Karma, the fact that you no longer have that does not mean the odds were not in your favor, it just means that you didn't use them correctly, and woke the beast in the process. Your new odds are of your own doing. The "start" of the war? lol. You mean, when it was just NPO and TORN fighting OV. Well yeah, if nobody had defended OV, your statement would have a vague relationship with the truth. 24 hours later, Karma had a 10M NS advantage. 3 days later, 45M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaPirate Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 The "start" of the war?lol. You mean, when it was just NPO and TORN fighting OV. Well yeah, if nobody had defended OV, your statement would have a vague relationship with the truth. 24 hours later, Karma had a 10M NS advantage. 3 days later, 45M. Ya but it might be a good idea to not pick fights that you know you can't win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 This war was not a beatdown, curbstomp or gangbang by any stretch of the imagination. At the peak of the war, Karma was something like 150% the size of Hegemony. Other wars in the past year - GPA (5v1), NADC (4v1), GATO (8v1), NpO (5v1), those were curbstomps. In those wars, the defenders never had the slightest chance. This war was not like that, and you can't blame Hegemony's defeat on the stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhunivelze Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) *dittos Ninja and Brendan* as I said Haflinger, that was NPOs own doing, and NPO was the strongest and largest AA in CN, they didn't have a disadvantage, they had nations to scared to fight and nations who had no clue HOW to fight. Edited May 15, 2009 by Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I do believe you were claiming they had a massive, 25:1 advantage. You've got to be completely insane if you think at any point NPO believed that to be the case, Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhunivelze Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) If they didn't believe they would be able to win the war they were getting in to then either: a.) They wouldn't have started it OR b.) They are insane. Edited May 15, 2009 by Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You know, you don't need a 25:1 advantage to win a war. I think this argument is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I do believe you were claiming they had a massive, 25:1 advantage. You've got to be completely insane if you think at any point NPO believed that to be the case, Paul. If you believe that, then you lack reading comprehension. He said that the Hegemony side at one point had a 24mil NS advantage. While that was not ever the case, it certainly is not a 25:1 advantage as you continually try and advocate. Lern2reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Pitt Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) when the score of the hegemony becomes lower than that of NPO's starting score i say they should start letting the extra baggage surrender lol extra baggage meaning not NPO edit: rephrasing Edited May 15, 2009 by Fort Pitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 when the score of the hegemony becomes lower than that of NPO i say they should start letting the extra baggage surrender lolextra baggage meaning not NPO What do you mean, exactly? NPO is part of Hegemony, how could the total score be lower than theirs alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Pitt Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 What do you mean, exactly? NPO is part of Hegemony, how could the total score be lower than theirs alone? i meant to say lower than that of NPO's starting score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leetopia II Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 This war was not a beatdown, curbstomp or gangbang by any stretch of the imagination. At the peak of the war, Karma was something like 150% the size of Hegemony.Other wars in the past year - GPA (5v1), NADC (4v1), GATO (8v1), NpO (5v1), those were curbstomps. In those wars, the defenders never had the slightest chance. This war was not like that, and you can't blame Hegemony's defeat on the stats. Do you somehow consider the peak of the war before TOP even joined? Because that's the only way that your math even makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 What goes around comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Do you somehow consider the peak of the war before TOP even joined? Because that's the only way that your math even makes sense. Hey you're that guy fighting the world! Anyway add up the initial ns of all karma alliances (both those still in the war and those that dropped out) and divide that number with the initial ns of all hegemony alliances (both those that's still in and those that dropped out) and you'll see where he gets 150% from. You can hardly blame karma for the hegemony allies dropping out after a few days when they realised that the NPO side wasn't the winning one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 If you believe that, then you lack reading comprehension. He said that the Hegemony side at one point had a 24mil NS advantage. While that was not ever the case, it certainly is not a 25:1 advantage as you continually try and advocate. Lern2reed. Actually it does mean that. He's using the initial stats. Initial Stats (NPO + TORN) Nations: 1,001 Nation Strength: 25,198,737 Average NS: 25,174 Nukes: 4,888 Score: 95.19 Initial Stats (OV) Nations: 56 Nation Strength: 849,625 Average NS: 15,172 Nukes: 173 Score: 3.46 It's actually a 29:1 advantage. This is the only time the Hegemony side ever had an NS advantage during the entire war, and coincidentally, it was a little bit over a 24M NS advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You might want to recheck that, at the start of this war Hegemony had roughly 24m NS more than Karma, the fact that you no longer have that does not mean the odds were not in your favor, it just means that you didn't use them correctly, and woke the beast in the process. Your new odds are of your own doing. Actually it does mean that. He's using the initial stats.Initial Stats (NPO + TORN) Nations: 1,001 Nation Strength: 25,198,737 Average NS: 25,174 Nukes: 4,888 Score: 95.19 Initial Stats (OV) Nations: 56 Nation Strength: 849,625 Average NS: 15,172 Nukes: 173 Score: 3.46 It's actually a 29:1 advantage. This is the only time the Hegemony side ever had an NS advantage during the entire war, and coincidentally, it was a little bit over a 24M NS advantage. Please consider the bolded part and shut up now because you've been proven wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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