Chimaera Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I don't think that any alliance that dies/disbands etc should be reformed. It had its time, let it rest in peace. It has nothing to do with IAA specifically. I just can't speak my mind in another thread because our FA guy decided to offer them a protectorate. I understand that viewpoint. But we enjoy playing the game, we enjoy our alliance, and we're damn glad to be able to play again without getting automatically curbstomped for no good reason. If we had formed under another name, would we have been any less guilty from your viewpoint? I mean, people talk about MK being LUE 2.0 and GR being NAAC 2.0 all the time, and whether or not that's true I don't see anyone saying "GOD, LUE AND NAAC SHOULD JUST STAY DEAD." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I understand that viewpoint. But we enjoy playing the game, we enjoy our alliance, and we're damn glad to be able to play again without getting automatically curbstomped for no good reason. If we had formed under another name, would we have been any less guilty from your viewpoint? I mean, people talk about MK being LUE 2.0 and GR being NAAC 2.0 all the time, and whether or not that's true I don't see anyone saying "GOD, LUE AND NAAC SHOULD JUST STAY DEAD." Perhaps at the time that was the case, but at this point, MK and GR have made names for themselves that allow them to step out of the shadow of LUE and NAAC. The IAA, on the other hand, will always be compared to IAA 1.0. That'll come with its own benefits, but I can also see drawbacks. Like every decision, this one had many factors to consider, and if Chimaera decided that it was the best decision to make, then he's probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Rising Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Perhaps at the time that was the case, but at this point, MK and GR have made names for themselves that allow them to step out of the shadow of LUE and NAAC. The IAA, on the other hand, will always be compared to IAA 1.0. That'll come with its own benefits, but I can also see drawbacks. Like every decision, this one had many factors to consider, and if Chimaera decided that it was the best decision to make, then he's probably right. I believe you have a valid point on MK and GR, Chey. I also appreciate the kind words in regards to Chimaera's decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Perhaps at the time that was the case, but at this point, MK and GR have made names for themselves that allow them to step out of the shadow of LUE and NAAC. The IAA, on the other hand, will always be compared to IAA 1.0. That'll come with its own benefits, but I can also see drawbacks. Like every decision, this one had many factors to consider, and if Chimaera decided that it was the best decision to make, then he's probably right. I was just being argumentative. Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 If IAA and TGR would simply give in to the Dark Side these arguments wouldn't be necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 If IAA and TGR would simply give in to the Dark Side these arguments wouldn't be necessary. My dear Ivan, IAA gave into the Dark Side long before NSO did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coven Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Welcome back, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incitatus Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Maybe if you stopped pretending that anyone involved cared about your opinion, you'd leave this thread and let it return to a mindless hailfest as it was intended to be. o/ IAA We understand Trace, in fact, we'd be insulted if you didn't speak your mind. You'll be receiving a DoW* from us soon. *Declaration of Wub These are two of your responses to something other then "WOO IAA is back!!!". I find it hilarious that an asshat response is appropriate for the first post you responded to, however a "Oh, you "-type of post is needed on Trace's response to the thread. It is perfectly fine when someone such as Trace, who maintains a spot in MK's government, posts something other then "IAA-love" or something you might not want to hear. But when Chey or myself posts, we're the bloody devil for speaking our minds. Make up your mind Mathias instead of making yourself come across as a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkPotPie Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Good luck from a former IAA member. o7 IAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaaku Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 These are two of your responses to something other then "WOO IAA is back!!!". I find it hilarious that an asshat response is appropriate for the first post you responded to, however a "Oh, you "-type of post is needed on Trace's response to the thread. It is perfectly fine when someone such as Trace, who maintains a spot in MK's government, posts something other then "IAA-love" or something you might not want to hear. But when Chey or myself posts, we're the bloody devil for speaking our minds. Make up your mind Mathias instead of making yourself come across as a tool. The difference is that Trace is speaking his mind, and is saying something that isn't considered hostile towards IAA. Sure, it he may disagree, but he's giving valid points. You however, have chosen to go at odds with them, claiming all sorts of things privately and some publically. also, congrats IAA <3 Chim A darth andrew! *throws masterball* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 The difference is that Trace is speaking his mind, and is saying something that isn't considered hostile towards IAA. Sure, it he may disagree, but he's giving valid points.You however, have chosen to go at odds with them, claiming all sorts of things privately and some publically. also, congrats IAA <3 Chim A darth andrew! *throws masterball* In Kev's defence, he raised points of his own. Whether or not they're points that are common knowledge is another matter. TGR has extended the hand of friendship to IAA, and I fully expect them to take it. I think it is in everybody's best interests at this point to let this thread die, as it has become more of a flamefest than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 (edited) A darth andrew! *throws masterball* Pssh, Pokemon is soooo 1999. Edited May 16, 2009 by Darth Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 These are two of your responses to something other then "WOO IAA is back!!!". I find it hilarious that an asshat response is appropriate for the first post you responded to, however a "Oh, you "-type of post is needed on Trace's response to the thread. It is perfectly fine when someone such as Trace, who maintains a spot in MK's government, posts something other then "IAA-love" or something you might not want to hear. But when Chey or myself posts, we're the bloody devil for speaking our minds. Make up your mind Mathias instead of making yourself come across as a tool. At least when Trace speaks his mind, he's consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrivia_2 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Seriously. It's a rebirth thread, and an ex-IAA government member and an ex-IAA protectorate are the only ones complaining? Sorry we derailed your plans, guys, but if you have a problem with me or us, query me instead of whining and moaning on the OWF. No one is whining and moaning. In fact, everybody in this thread except for Mathias has been quite cordial. And I am in fact in favor of bringing drama into the world stage rather than the constant backroom discussions during the hegemony era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 My dear Ivan, IAA gave into the Dark Side long before NSO did. Really? I thought I saw another thread with you guys bragging about initial growth to 500k NS. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Really? I thought I saw another thread with you guys bragging about initial growth to 500k NS.Weird. IAA disbanded in the past, my lord. This is their second attempt. My dear Ivan, IAA gave into the Dark Side long before NSO did. Perhaps, but we do it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yes, I am aware of that. Disbanding equates to failure so I was not certain if he was bragging about failing in the past or was just making an error in perception. I still find it odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yes, I am aware of that. Disbanding equates to failure so I was not certain if he was bragging about failing in the past or was just making an error in perception.I still find it odd. I think he was just trying to engage in friendly banter, actually. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted May 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think he was just trying to engage in friendly banter, actually.-Bama That would be it. But hey, only Sith deal in absolutes. I appear to be an absolute failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I think he was just trying to engage in friendly banter, actually.-Bama Yes, I am aware of the intent. That would be it. But hey, only Sith deal in absolutes. I appear to be an absolute failure. If you declare yourself as such then that is what you will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccjmk Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 IAA!! that was my first alliance when just introduced to CN i definitely have you in my heart, shall god bless you, and maybe bring peace and friendship upon you, great people, and those who accepted me on their breast, who eventually turned onto my new home. Hail you IAA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamerad Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Yes, I am aware of that. Disbanding equates to failure so I was not certain if he was bragging about failing in the past or was just making an error in perception.I still find it odd. I suppose we'll have to take your word on failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I suppose we'll have to take your word on failure. Was that an attempt at wit? It may have succeeded if it had any comprehensible level of truth to it. Or if anyone had any idea who you even are. *rollseyes* Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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