Maelstrom Vortex Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "At this time given the war in Europe, we do not find it prudent to continue to sustain a Non-Aggression Pact with the Nordlandic Confederacy. That said, the proper 72 hour notification begins now. We encourage the Nordlandic Confederacy to seek peace and resolution with its neighbors immediately to prevent further deterioration in relations status." Tom Clark noted grimly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Confederation Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "It saddening to hear this. Our peace efforts with our neighbors have been met with severe ignorance and bullheadedness. Know this, The Nordic Confederacy will not fire the first shot in any war, that is assured. If our neighbors decide to strike upon us...I feel sorry for them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 (edited) "Any war? I guess we should forget Slavorussia already. Nordic propaganda is laughable at best." Edited April 28, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "Any war? I guess we should forget Slavorussia already. Nordic propaganda is laughable at best." "They clearly meant in any war to come whereas, the Slavorussia war is either ongoing according to the anti-Nord nations and over according to the Nordic Confedracy. Really think a bit before answering". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "They clearly meant in any war to come whereas, the Slavorussia war is either ongoing according to the anti-Nord nations and over according to the Nordic Confedracy. Really think a bit before answering". "I did think. I have learned to never trust the word of the Nords, and I know that if they are not stopped, they will burn the world." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "I did think. I have learned to never trust the word of the Nords, and I know that if they are not stopped, they will burn the world." "And so you burn the world to get rid of them and thus make yourselves just as bad as the Nordic Confedracy in doing so". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "And so you burn the world to get rid of them and thus make yourselves just as bad as the Nordic Confedracy in doing so". "If you feel that I am committing a crime to rid the world of them, then join their side against me. I have not nuked countless ancient cities, I have not burned down ancient forests, I have not committed cultural genocide. I stand against the jackboots of Nordlandic oppression and fascism, where do you stand?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "We encourage the Mariehamm People's to develop a framework for their postion within which peace may achieved reasonably without positioning themselves in the role of Imperialist. We believe Mariehamm have a legitimate complaint, but they have not yet laid out the framework of their complaint by which the Nordlandic Confederation should comply. What do you want out of this conflict? Dragonisia is still pondering its actions, as is the world. We want you to frame a clear statement of intent." Tom noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "We encourage the Mariehamm People's to develop a framework for their postion within which peace may achieved reasonably without positioning themselves in the role of Imperialist. We believe Mariehamm have a legitimate complaint, but they have not yet laid out the framework of their complaint by which the Nordlandic Confederation should comply. What do you want out of this conflict? Dragonisia is still pondering its actions, as is the world. We want you to frame a clear statement of intent." Tom noted. "The Arrest of Martens and all other NC leaders for a fair trial. The disbanding of the NC. The complete and unconditional surrender of NC members. The return of Uberstein's estate as a sovereign entity. The release of all political prisoners. All land will be turned into protectorates for real cultures to create their own countries. Mariehamm has no interest in expansion." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranather Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "The Arrest of Martens and all other NC leaders for a fair trial. The disbanding of the NC. The complete and unconditional surrender of NC members. The return of Uberstein's estate as a sovereign entity. The release of all political prisoners. All land will be turned into protectorates for real cultures to create their own countries. Mariehamm has no interest in expansion." ooc: Wow, not asking for much are we? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 ooc: Wow, not asking for much are we? lol OOC: Nope, just justice. Or should I smile and ignore everything they have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "If you feel that I am committing a crime to rid the world of them, then join their side against me. I have not nuked countless ancient cities, I have not burned down ancient forests, I have not committed cultural genocide. I stand against the jackboots of Nordlandic oppression and fascism, where do you stand?" "No you have not but by demanding that the leaders of the Nordic Confedracy hands themselves over for trial and demanding the disbandment of the Nordic Confedracy is just as bad as what they have done. The Nordic Confedracy is the Nordic people and forcing its disbandment is forcing it through cultural genocide. Also please tell me where would you hold these trials?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "No you have not but by demanding that the leaders of the Nordic Confedracy hands themselves over for trial and demanding the disbandment of the Nordic Confedracy is just as bad as what they have done. The Nordic Confedracy is the Nordic people and forcing its disbandment is forcing it through cultural genocide. Also please tell me where would you hold these trials?" "Nords have existed many years since before the Nordic Confederacy. The NC is a new chapter in the Nordic life, not the beginning." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "Nords have existed many years since before the Nordic Confederacy. The NC is a new chapter in the Nordic life, not the beginning." "That is a true point and yet forcing the Nordic Confedracy to disband is akin to telling the nords that their beliefs are wrong and should be changed after all the Nordic people in Europe follow and believe in the Confedracy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "That is a true point and yet forcing the Nordic Confedracy to disband is akin to telling the nords that their beliefs are wrong and should be changed after all the Nordic people in Europe follow and believe in the Confedracy". "Incorrect. The Nordic Confederacy nations doesn't even need to have Nords in their country to be counted as one. In addition, there are many parts of Europe that they occupy that do not hold any Nords at all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "Incorrect. The Nordic Confederacy nations doesn't even need to have Nords in their country to be counted as one. In addition, there are many parts of Europe that they occupy that do not hold any Nords at all." "Hmm I see so you agree with the idea of the Nordic Confedracy being disbanded then?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "Hmm I see so you agree with the idea of the Nordic Confedracy being disbanded then?" "We don't agree with anything. We're merely pointing out inaccuracies and misconceptions." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "We don't agree with anything. We're merely pointing out inaccuracies and misconceptions." "Ah ok thank you for pointing them out to us" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "It saddening to hear this. Our peace efforts with our neighbors have been met with severe ignorance and bullheadedness. Know this, The Nordic Confederacy will not fire the first shot in any war, that is assured. If our neighbors decide to strike upon us...I feel sorry for them." The Evil Empire has fired the first shots in handfuls of previous wars. Refusing to fire the first shots in next war does little to improve your reputations. Right your wrongs, and no one will have to fire any shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "Hmm I see so you agree with the idea of the Nordic Confedracy being disbanded then?" "We don't agree with anything. We're merely pointing out inaccuracies and misconceptions." They may not, but the Helzan should note that we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 They may not, but the Helzan should note that we do. "Then you would be willing to disband your own coalition of nations that you are a member of in case they ever decide to push their own views on people using violence or other means". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 We're beginning to believe the Helzan supports the NC's actions in Europe. In the past weeks The Helzan has done little but flip flop around on the issue of the NC and it's actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 We're beginning to believe the Helzan supports the NC's actions in Europe. In the past weeks The Helzan has done little but flip flop around on the issue of the NC and it's actions. "Support their actions we do not, however, forcing them to disband and stand trial by force is not the answer there are peaceful ways to solve this problem if only every party would undertake them". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 "Then you would be willing to disband your own coalition of nations that you are a member of in case they ever decide to push their own views on people using violence or other means". If they became the thing we fight against...yes, I would be willing to be a party to the Austraslasian Coalition's disbandment. However, we hardly have the list of atrocities to answer for, unlike the NC. "Support their actions we do not, however, forcing them to disband and stand trial by force is not the answer there are peaceful ways to solve this problem if only every party would undertake them". How do you suggest this be done, then? And what, in your eyes, is the problem that everyone is fighting over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 If they became the thing we fight against...yes, I would be willing to be a party to the Austraslasian Coalition's disbandment. However, we hardly have the list of atrocities to answer for, unlike the NC. How do you suggest this be done, then? And what, in your eyes, is the problem that everyone is fighting over? "The problem in our eyes is that both sides are staring over at each other with a lot of hate and violence in their minds. The Nordic Confedracy is cuurently offering peace however, with the current political climate I feel that they may be feeling and acting a little overly strong in their reactions towards those calling for thier disbandment. Meanwhile the anti Nordic community is looking for revenge for the attacks against Slavorussia and other parties". "What we need is for all the sides to call of their militaries and sit down and discuss these issues and problems peacefully without resorting to violence". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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