Uberstein Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Bringing things forward through a re roll is basically a question: Would they, in RL be able to be obtained by the new govt? Static defenses, yes, provided, they were never destroyed / decommissioned, you own the land they were on, and you have good RP to how they would be operated(you have a character who knows etc) Characters, yes, if they were in a position were they could realistically come forward. If they were in, no, if the had infiltrated the new govt under a disguise, sure, if done properly. Citizens / ethnic groups. No in most cases. You don't see the new govt of somali calling Somalians home and they returning do you? Weapons plans, sometimes. Most of those would be secret, and so with the fall of the old military regime, they would be locked away, and unable to accessed(Although i'm sure you can RP around that).The point is, when you re roll, you get nothing for free, you have to work for it, and even then you still don't get everything. Also, by 're roll' I mean, leave CNRP, or for no reason, abandon your nation and start a new one. If you are conquered in war, and reclaim your land through a rebellion, that would not count as a re roll. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 The rule about not rping the same government when you get rolled needs to be removed. You can easily roleplay a government in exile, or that your people went to a new area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 The rule about not rping the same government when you get rolled needs to be removed. You can easily roleplay a government in exile, or that your people went to a new area. This rule does not apply when you lose a IC war. This rule applies when you stop RPing, or deliberately stop RPing a certain nation. Not when you get rolled if you choose to stay and fight back, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 No. They are totally banned. I calculated even a 500kg rod has more destructive energy than 160 tonnes of TNT, when dropped from orbit. I must have misunderstood when we had the talk about RfG. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Updated with new techrules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Question. For Chemical Weapons, does the CM level include Artillery shells? TBH I have no idea how CW's would be delivered now (By plane or something I guess), but like During WW1 they used shells not Missiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Question Computer Technology viruses that are RPed, allowed? Another question Can GMs moderate nations going a bit overboard in EVERY aspect of a nation? If not money wise, then keep them from RPing god modding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Question.For Chemical Weapons, does the CM level include Artillery shells? TBH I have no idea how CW's would be delivered now (By plane or something I guess), but like During WW1 they used shells not Missiles. I feel it should. QuestionComputer Technology viruses that are RPed, allowed? Another question Can GMs moderate nations going a bit overboard in EVERY aspect of a nation? If not money wise, then keep them from RPing god modding. Yes. But viruses are not effective at all on most systems, as almost everyone runs different systems, and hence the code would not work. And yes, present us the infraction, evidence it is overboard, and we call upon the player to defend their claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestorm Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I like this reroll ruling. People should go forth and find something new more often to stretch their creativity. It is good for them and good for RP that they do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I feel it should.Yes. But viruses are not effective at all on most systems, as almost everyone runs different systems, and hence the code would not work. And yes, present us the infraction, evidence it is overboard, and we call upon the player to defend their claim. Viruses don't work at all on my systems. Punchcards and pneumatic tubes FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Viruses don't work at all on my systems.Punchcards and pneumatic tubes FTW. Yeah. a little hard to attack something with a virus when there's nothing for it to attack... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Viruses don't work at all on my systems.Punchcards and pneumatic tubes FTW. You know that you might have a one Hz processor? A mechanical computer is so weak its not worth it. You might as well compute on a cellphone, its much more powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 You know that you might have a one Hz processor? A mechanical computer is so weak its not worth it. You might as well compute on a cellphone, its much more powerful. It also means he won't be working back up from the stone age if he's attacked by a virus or EMP weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 It also means he won't be working back up from the stone age if he's attacked by a virus or EMP weapon. It means he is at the stone age... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 It means he is at the stone age... Ain't dat a bit of an exaggeration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Ain't dat a bit of an exaggeration? Not really. He would have ~1945 computing power. No matter how advanced a cyber attack, it would not leave you that bereft of computers. Somebody would have a cellphone somewhere Or a calculator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestorm Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Just goes to show that people need to consider things like having back up systems in place in the event of a viral attack or any other sort of attack for that matter. I'd be highly surprised if some ding a ling had their sole central computer network directly linked into the net with no back up network to take up some of the work load in the event of a strike. lol... never mind.... I probably wouldn't be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah. a little hard to attack something with a virus when there's nothing for it to attack... LOL You know that you might have a one Hz processor? A mechanical computer is so weak its not worth it. You might as well compute on a cellphone, its much more powerful. You don't understand my system. It uses punchcards to get from the communications to the closed computer system. The punchcards have a LOT of little holes and are bigger than normal punchcards. The computer system is kept up to date (late 1980's according to the old techscale). It's simply a closed system, you can't get a virus in because I have a literal air gap as my firewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 You don't understand my system.It uses punchcards to get from the communications to the closed computer system. The punchcards have a LOT of little holes and are bigger than normal punchcards. The computer system is kept up to date (late 1980's according to the old techscale). It's simply a closed system, you can't get a virus in because I have a literal air gap as my firewall. How does the punchcards function? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 How does the punchcards function? I think I just explained that. The punchcards are used as the medium between the outside communication and the computers. No viruses can get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 You don't understand my system.It uses punchcards to get from the communications to the closed computer system. The punchcards have a LOT of little holes and are bigger than normal punchcards. The computer system is kept up to date (late 1980's according to the old techscale). It's simply a closed system, you can't get a virus in because I have a literal air gap as my firewall. Dude, even a small program is say, a kilobyte. Thats 1000 of those punchcards you would have to enter. Heck, emails are that size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dude, even a small program is say, a kilobyte. Thats 1000 of those punchcards you would have to enter. Heck, emails are that size. Rolls of card-paper then? And they are not like those 100 hole cards that people used to use. They have a lot more holes and such. Besides, they can still type things in and such, it's simply a physical air gap between the communication systems and the computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Just on the reroll thing (since that is kind of what I am doing now), there will be an explanation for why my new government (once it finally emerges) gets most of the stuff back. There have already been hints of it in my thread, but it will be fully explained once the government is back up and running again fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasili Markov Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I wish to state here for the record that my upcoming reroll will be a continuation of my existing storyline and in accordance with the OP's guidelines I am inheriting all of its stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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