AirMe Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 If the unwritten word is the new treaty then anything goes and the moral message Ive been hearing about for some time now is bogus. Measuring friendships is similar to the measuring of honour, saying you are better friends so your treaty activation is better that others is pointless because it cant be proved or disproved. Good luck in your two week war, I hope ML & Co agreed the timetable before you announced. I am convinced you drink copious amounts of alcohol before you read and reply here. How does the making the word of honor more important than a paper treaty ruin the moral message? IMO it only enforces it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I do love how you guys roll. Its just icing on the cake that you guys are rolling with us into this. o/ NSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I guess the new laws of Planet Bobs politics no longer require any alliance to have a valid CB other than "We like Guy A, we're going to hit Guy B because Guy A is too." There has never been a law asserting that a CB must be given prior, during or after a war in order for it to be legitimate. The legitimacy of war is determined only by the success of victory. But, Ivan! The world doesn't work like that! You're only allowed to declare war if you're forced to by a wirtten piece of paper because there is no other legitimate way to defend someone. Anyone who does otherwise is just bandwagonning scum! Also, NSO: Bandwagonning scum! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 There was never a "law" stating the contrary no matter how much your alliance wished it had the authority to write and uphold one. What about all that rubbish around the no CB war? You are saying people dont need a CB or treaty anymore. What kind of world are you people trying to create? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I am convinced you drink copious amounts of alcohol before you read and reply here. How does the making the word of honor more important than a paper treaty ruin the moral message? IMO it only enforces it. AirMe, it's totally immoral to have friends that you haven't signed a piece of paper affirming your friendship with. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Wasn't that the entire reason for half of the wars in CN anyway? Isn't that the reason why you're fighting a war against us now, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) If the unwritten word is the new treaty then anything goes and the moral message Ive been hearing about for some time now is bogus. Measuring friendships is similar to the measuring of honour, saying you are better friends so your treaty activation is better that others is pointless because it cant be proved or disproved. Good luck in your two week war, I hope ML & Co agreed the timetable before you announced. This post only goes to show your ignorance of what morality really is on this planet. The desire to stand by your friends even when not required by treaty is the pinnacle of honor. If I may borrow form the NPO's recent propaganda line, we are fighting against the dogmatic belief that one should only defend those that they are obligated to and then only if you can not find a way to slime out of it. Edited April 26, 2009 by KingSrqt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinner Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 i was wondering when these dark lords would join... i guess the gang's all here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empirica Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I fail to see why this war is any less justified than any other going on right now. CBs are mainly spin, propaganda, and pretensions anyway. Forgot to mention earlier, commendable on the white peace protocol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kaiser Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Rawr! Go get em NSO o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Isn't that the reason why you're fighting a war against us now, anyway? No. It's more of a combination of bitterness, drunkenness, boredom, and self-pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 There has never been a law asserting that a CB must be given prior, during or after a war in order for it to be legitimate. The legitimacy of war is determined only by the success of victory. And yet you all complain when Pacifica declares war with what you believe to be an illegitimate CB? Excuse me, but I'm not that well trained in doublethink (OOC: Read 1984 if you don't understand) to actually like and dislike something at the same time as you seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 All hail MNT Maybe Next Time, Anthony. Maybe Next Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I am convinced you drink copious amounts of alcohol before you read and reply here. How does the making the word of honor more important than a paper treaty ruin the moral message? IMO it only enforces it. One is written down for all the world to see and one can appear at the convenience of an alliance before or during a war and no one can say when it was written. It all comes down to trust and its in short supply when your side breaks its own "moral" rules daily. ps: Saying NPO breaks them too doesnt make you right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 And yet you all complain when Pacifica declares war with what you believe to be an illegitimate CB? Excuse me, but I'm not that well trained in doublethink (OOC: Read 1984 if you don't understand) to actually like and dislike something at the same time as you seem to be. The NSO has not made any statement against the NPO casus belli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empirica Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) This arena is filled with doublethink good sir. But I don't see it coming from NSO. Edited April 26, 2009 by empirica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Maybe Next Time, Anthony.Maybe Next Time. She didn't even have the dignity to call me by my name. Just flat out rejection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) The NSO has not made any statement against the NPO casus belli. I was not talking about the NSO in that post. I was talking about Karma. Edit: And yes, I realize that Hydro is a member of the NSO. Edited April 26, 2009 by Lord of Destruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) One is written down for all the world to see and one can appear at the convenience of an alliance before or during a war and no one can say when it was written. It all comes down to trust and its in short supply when your side breaks its own "moral" rules daily. ps: Saying NPO breaks them too doesnt make you right. I had a good reply typed here, but decided against it because the NPO has nothing to do with the argument. Edited April 26, 2009 by AirMe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Lube Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 This will be a good fight. I hope your warchests are in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 First war in a few years. Let's see how this goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 First war in a few years. Let's see how this goes. You're telling me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 One is written down for all the world to see and one can appear at the convenience of an alliance before or during a war and no one can say when it was written. It all comes down to trust and its in short supply when your side breaks its own "moral" rules daily. ps: Saying NPO breaks them too doesnt make you right. point me to anyone on this side of the fence who has said that one should not defend theri friends if the do not have a treaty. find it and I give you a cookie until then stop applying your own misconceptions to others and then using those misconceptions against them. To me 'Defending your friends' is perhaps teh most valid CB their is and seeing as though two of NSO's friends are going to war I believe them to have a valid CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Christ Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I was not talking about the NSO in that post. I was talking about Karma.Edit: And yes, I realize that Hydro is a member of the NSO. Talking about Karma...in a thread about NSO. Without specifying who you were talking about. What a wonderful communicator you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kswiss2783 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Nice, more people to kill. Molon Labe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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