Penguin Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Just call them all global wars. Clearly the word "great" elicits a different reaction for different people. Six wars in history have created significant shifts in the political structure of the game. Six wars in history have involved almost every alliance in the game. While they have not all been very even, they were certainly all global wars. If someone wants to use the word "great" to describe them, then I don't really mind. If not, I don't mind either. However there should be at least some term that distinguishes a global war from a smaller scale alliance war. Edited April 25, 2009 by Penguin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrick Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 The Karma War is the biggest war ever fought on Bob. GW3 was first with 5500 warring nations, and on day for of this Karma war there is already 8192 wars. Plus this is the most Alliances that have been in 1 war to my knowledge. So what? Good for the Karma War then, it's the biggest. However the Great Wars were a trilogy between NPO vs LUE by many accounts (personally I'd put it as the Orders vs LUE, NAAC, and GATO). I will never understand the need to have every global war tagged with the prefix of "Great" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 No, No, and No. There have been 6+ world wars (depending if you count certain earlier things), but only 3 have been The Great Wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorum Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) No No No While UJW, WoTC and Karma War may not be great wars, I do think they should share a name in a similar fashion as the Great Wars, because they have all lead up to the next conflict. They are almost like a CN trilogy. Perhaps calling them the Epic Wars? I support this. Edited April 25, 2009 by Sorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 lets call it the Great Global War then considering it is way bigger than anything in the past, and its not the same title as the ones fought between LUE and NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamuella Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 There were three Great Wars. Let's have something new, eh? I agree. The Great Wars were a period in time and politics that will never be repeated. Let the wheel turn and the world move on. For good or ill, let the wheel turn. The wheel has been still, these seven years, and no good has come For ill or good, let the wheel turn. For who knows the end of good or evil? Until the grinders cease, and the door shall be shut in the street, and all the daughters of music shall be brought low. -T.S.Eliot, Murder In The Cathedral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrick Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) lets call it the Great Global War then considering it is way bigger than anything in the past, and its not the same title as the ones fought between LUE and NPO Again, why does it have to called "Great"? It's just semantics over names; everyone knows this is a gigantic war already so a name change isn't going to do much besides make you feel better. Oh and refer the last part of my sig please Edited April 25, 2009 by Jagged Fel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Again, why does it have to called "Great"? It's just semantics over names; everyone knows this is a gigantic war already so a name change isn't going to do much besides make you feel better.Oh and refer the last part of my sig please Agreed, it doesn't matter. Someone try to supplant a new word like "Global" or "World" in place of the word "Great" and we can end this ridiculous semantic argument forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 How was the UJP War not a GW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysotine Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 How was the UJP War not a GW? Because it was not LUE/NAAC vs. NPO and co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 why does it have to be LUE or NAAC vs NPO? Also this one has to be a GW because the CN world is getting flipped on its $@! and the major world powers are getting a beating for the first time in CN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 The Great Wars were between LUE and NPO. They're over. Let's have some new names, even if the grudges are still the same. This line is completely meaningless. LUE had effectively ceased to exist as an alliance by the time GWIII started thanks to their inability to understand the peace terms they recevied. Given that MK is essentially identical to LUE and in this war MK and NPO are the leaders of the two sides this is more of a 'Great War' than GWIII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bros Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 No, No, No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 why does it have to be LUE or NAAC vs NPO?Also this one has to be a GW because the CN world is getting flipped on its $@! and the major world powers are getting a beating for the first time in CN Because those three wars had a relatively similar premise and were each a manifestation of the same continuing conflict, thus deserving the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrick Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 This line is completely meaningless. LUE had effectively ceased to exist as an alliance by the time GWIII started thanks to their inability to understand the peace terms they recevied. Given that MK is essentially identical to LUE and in this war MK and NPO are the leaders of the two sides this is more of a 'Great War' than GWIII. The Third Great War was a direct sequel to the Second Great War which of course had a lot to do with the events of the First Great War. Subsequent wars such as the Unjust War, War of the Coalition and the Karma War have nothing to do with the previous three wars except for some similar alliances. And there is a lot seperating LUE from MK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I would actually have to venture to say that this is bigger then a Great War. I mean think about it. Right now, "The Hegemony is about 5 million NS short of their strength during the WoTC, 20k nukes, and almost 500 score. Karma, is the biggest war coalition ever formed. They have over 170 million NS, 33.5 thousand nukes, and a score just short of 650. The combined NS of every alliance fighting, is just short of 300 million. This is more then a great war, this is...well I don't know. What's bigger then a Great War? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum T. Gundraw Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Given that MK is essentially identical to LUE and in this war MK Any small fragment of credibility you had before this statement evaporated upon completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarikmo Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 This war is a great war, as the war focuses on one main spark, rather than how The war of Coalition started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Razzia Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Well, I guess we can make the term "Great War" a new category of wars, or we can give each great war a subtitle or co-title (whatever you call it) i.e. Great War IV - The Unjust War in Wikia, they have Great War IV, The Unjust War This works too You can give the 3 great wars another name if you want, but I strongly believe the Unjust war should be considered a Great War. The war of the coalition could be a Great war too, but it was really one sided, so I'm not sure. The point is that the unjust war should be in the same category as the other three great wars. Also, if the Karma war continues for a while, then it too should become a great war. i.e Great War V(VI) - The Karma War Edited April 25, 2009 by Lord Razzia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) I say that the Unjust War is the Unjust War, the War of the Coalition is the War of the Coalition, and the Karma War is Great War IV. Of course there are going to be the people who say the Unjust War and the War of the Coaliton are Great War IV and V, and there are also the people who say that there will always be only Three Great Wars. To end the confusion I say we just end the title of the "Great" Wars and make a poll to decide what this war should be called. Edited April 25, 2009 by Ryan Greenberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Faith Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 People who are saying yes are making the assumption that anything large = great war, which is wrong. Yes these more recent wars are larger in numbers but they are not at all similar to the three great wars involving LUE and NPO (as previously stated). It has nothing to do with the size of the war but rather its participants. Just because we don't want to call it a great war does not mean we are understating the size or importance of the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I say that the Unjust War is the Unjust War, the War of the Coalition is the War of the Coalition, and the Karma War is Great War IV. Of course there are going to be the people who say the Unjust War and the War of the Coaliton are Great War IV and V, and there are also the people who say that there will always be only Three Great Wars. To end the confusion I say we just end the title of the "Great" Wars and make a poll to decide what this war should be called. QFT - I agree with this man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Emperor Brian Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Historically, the three real Great Wars were fought between LUE + Co. and NPO and Co. Sure, there have been other massive wars, but LUE wasn't involved, so they can't be thrown into the "Great War" category. Unjust War = Unjust War War of the Coalition = War of the Coalition Karma War = Karma War At least that's my opinion. Edited April 25, 2009 by Grand Emperor Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 New Pacific OrderIndependent Republic Of Orange Nations Sparta Mostly Harmless Alliance The Order Of The Paradox Multicolored Cross-x Alliance Fark Orange Defense Network Ragnarok New Polar Order Viridian Entente The Order Of Light Fok The Grämlins The Phoenix Federation The Democratic Order Green Protection Agency Mushroom Kingdom The Legion Grand Global Alliance United Purple Nations Global Democratic Alliance World Task Force Nueva Vida Monos Archein Echelon Greenland Republic Valhalla M*A*S*H Umbrella Random Insanity Alliance The Dark Evolution Invicta LoSS Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations RnR North Atlantic Defense Coalition NATO Poison Clan The Templar Knights Out of the top 40 alliances, only 9 are not involved (and some of those might be, idk off hand since there have been more DoWs than I've ever seen in CN to date since this started). Of the top 15, only two are not involved. If you think this isn't a Great War you are either 1) delusional 2) using the definition of GW as "NPO vs the world." Which is funny since this war started out that way, heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 What's bigger then a Great War? Really Big War. I coined the name. Remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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