Balkenende owns Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: What mix of populations? There are the Slavorussians and that is all and if you had tried to set up a government then they would have rebelled against it immediatly. OOC: a mix of the "invaders" and those who had inhabited the area already. I have a feeling if I hadent supported the Nordlanders you wouldnt be on me so much about this. Either way our "rise" was very realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: a mix of the "invaders" and those who had inhabited the area already. I have a feeling if I hadent supported the Nordlanders you wouldnt be on me so much about this. Either way our "rise" was very realistic. OOC: Meh you occupy Slavorussian lands everyone would get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: a mix of the "invaders" and those who had inhabited the area already. I have a feeling if I hadent supported the Nordlanders you wouldnt be on me so much about this. Either way our "rise" was very realistic. OOC: No it was not realistic. Those who inhabit the area support the Tzar not your government and secondly only military units entered Slavorussia during the war and any civilian Nords entering would soon be chased out by the Slavorussians. Also I don't care who you support in world politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: Meh you occupy Slavorussian lands everyone would get it OOC: those lands where lost from Slavorussia, and set as protectorates. From there the protectorate became its own nation. All the people of the region created this government, as it is clear Slavorussia is not going to return as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: those lands where lost from Slavorussia, and set as protectorates. From there the protectorate became its own nation. All the people of the region created this government, as it is clear Slavorussia is not going to return as it was. OOC: To quote myself, lets see about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: No it was not realistic. Those who inhabit the area support the Tzar not your government and secondly only military units entered Slavorussia during the war and any civilian Nords entering would soon be chased out by the Slavorussians. Also I don't care who you support in world politics. OOC: Yes it is. This is not a single ethnicity nation. It has several cultures and ethnicities. Together they created the Eastern Reich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: those lands where lost from Slavorussia, and set as protectorates. From there the protectorate became its own nation. All the people of the region created this government, as it is clear Slavorussia is not going to return as it was. OOC: How is it clear!!!!!!! First of all the Slavorussian government is still around and second that land still belongs to Justinian not yourself and not the NC. Just because it got invaded doesnt mean Slavorussia is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: a mix of the "invaders" and those who had inhabited the area already. I have a feeling if I hadent supported the Nordlanders you wouldnt be on me so much about this. Either way our "rise" was very realistic. ooc: for the record I would treat anyone who created a country in Western russia this way, because until recently that is where I have rped since I started rping 2.5 years ago. I don’t care who you side with and many of my friends as you see could care less as well. Taking Nordland’s side only makes it easier for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: How is it clear!!!!!!! First of all the Slavorussian government is still around and second that land still belongs to Justinian not yourself and not the NC. Just because it got invaded doesnt mean Slavorussia is gone. OOC: From that area, it is gone, as it was declared a protectorate of the NC wether you agree with that personally or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadbycheese Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 (edited) OOC: Slavorussia was defeated effectively from, that region if not all of their former lands. Balkende Owns's RP seems perfectly fine. The land was turned into a protectorate and from that a new nation. Get off his back already this is getting annoying. Edited April 28, 2009 by deadbycheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: Justinian Slavorussia is your land regardless of what some others have said and thus I ask of you. Please start a rebellion and get rid of this pest that has sprung up. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: Guys OOC, please fight IC...it's better to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: Justinian Slavorussia is your land regardless of what some others have said and thus I ask of you. Please start a rebellion and get rid of this pest that has sprung up. Please. OOC: it seems unrealistic for the majority of the people to rebel as the majority is what created the government of the Eatern Reich. We are not anti-slavs, in fact we have many slavs, IN FACT they helped create this nation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: it seems unrealistic for the majority of the people to rebel as the majority is what created the government of the Eatern Reich. We are not anti-slavs, in fact we have many slavs, IN FACT they helped create this nation OOC: YOU just don't get it do you, NONE of the Slavorussians, well maybe a small few, would have supported your government they support the Tzar and the Tzar only you can't whitewash a full population and cultuer to replace with your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 We have risen as a seperate nation from the Nordlandic protectorate. An illigal occupation is imposible unless by the entirety of the population of said region whom have created the Eastern Reich. As said before the Slavorussian government, the true governemnt of the lands of western Russia wishes to discuss the matter in the near future. For now though we will see how the world judges your rule illegal though it may be. ooc: I don't believe in the whole rebellion thing when other people are currently using the land to rp on. I feel it would set a dangerous precedent that could eventually be used on myself one day, something I'd like to avoid happening. If they were less active then it would be a little different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: YOU just don't get it do you, NONE of the Slavorussians, well maybe a small few, would have supported your government they support the Tzar and the Tzar only you can't whitewash a full population and cultuer to replace with your own. OOC: You cannot say Justinian is allowed to have jurisdiction over a land he no longer controls. We have not replaced any culture, we have risen from those that were already in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 OOC: You cannot say Justinian is allowed to have jurisdiction over a land he no longer controls. We have not replaced any culture, we have risen from those that were already in place. OOC: Please tell me then how the Slavorussian culture goes from supporting the Tzar, which they have done for hundred years, to suddenly supporting your government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: Please tell me then how the Slavorussian culture goes from supporting the Tzar, which they have done for hundred years, to suddenly supporting your government? OOC: I know I'm not 100% impartial, but the rules have always been that you need a person's permission to make a rebellion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: Please tell me then how the Slavorussian culture goes from supporting the Tzar, which they have done for hundred years, to suddenly supporting your government? OOC: Easy, the Tzar failed to protect them. So they created their own leadership to protect themselves from any future disasters and/or invasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malatose Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: knock it off, already. Christ. Let him RP how he wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Great Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: knock it off, already. Christ. Let him RP how he wishes. OOC: @ King kevs: Really, your just taking up alot of space arguing with really no good argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: Ok ok I give up but if I decide to invade a nation some time in the future and I win I will RP almost 100% acceptance of my rule and I better see no arguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: Currently, Infrared Satellites CAN be accurate if they're dedicated to that exact cause. The problem with inaccuracy right now is that they're being used for other things like weather monitoring or even oceanography. Image from a dedicated (pretty rare and expensive in the current day, but 20 or so years from now, I'd assume it was better) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KH-12 ---> A system put in service in 1990 and used widely in the "War on Terror" that has dedicated infrared systems. They were used in Afghanistan for finding cave entrances and watching the trucks going out of them. OOC: Hmm, okay. Well, my vehicles are in the cities and stuff, and it's the entire Finnish-Swedish boarder, so maybe I can roll some dice to see what armies you discover? To the whole other thing, RP continuity hasn't existed in ages, otherwise I would be able to RP all of Scandinavia revolting and joining me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkenende owns Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Official Statement fromt he Eastern Reich "We declare neutrality in the Nordlandic war, as of now. War schtonk!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Confederation Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 OOC: Hmm, okay. Well, my vehicles are in the cities and stuff, and it's the entire Finnish-Swedish boarder, so maybe I can roll some dice to see what armies you discover? To the whole other thing, RP continuity hasn't existed in ages, otherwise I would be able to RP all of Scandinavia revolting and joining me. OOC: Good idea. Also, I'd totally be for some sort of Continuity Cop for the community, though it would be a full time job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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