Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sargun has agreed to consider the initial invasion of Russia (the RP that started this whole mess) as having never happened. Shall we move on to the next question, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Yeah, yeah. Move on with your lives, get back to your knitting, have a barmitzvah or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaero2011 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Yeah, yeah.Move on with your lives, get back to your knitting, have a barmitzvah or something. But I'm not Jewish! Maybe a quinceañera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Yeah, yeah.Move on with your lives, get back to your knitting, have a barmitzvah or something. Asia has already moved on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) I'm ok with this. Sumer would get her lands back and the invasion of sargun is retconned. Edited April 24, 2009 by VinceSixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 In that case, pending the new nations being accepted by her on some other means, I support Sumeragi getting all her land back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 With the restoration of my land (Vince's comment pending), I claim the following areas: Manchuria Inner Mongolia Outer Mongolia Uyghurstan Karagandy Province East Kazakhstan Baikonur City Central Asia can be split up between Cochin and Justinian. Coby will get my piece of Qinghai Keshav gets my piece of Ganshu Frost gets nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 No. The RP action of sargun invading is a legit RP action, subject to no godmodding, so no retcon can be made. We will not let people chop and change RP simply because they feel like it. Actions, once taken cannot be taken back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 You seem to have forgotten that I HAD CANCELED the invasion before Sargun made a IC move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 The way I see it is, if Sumer can do this then I can claim Fall Barbarossa never happened and I get Slavorussia back. That’s the example that I feel you're setting for other people in cnrp, and it'll probably only have a bad outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 No. The RP action of sargun invading is a legit RP action, subject to no godmodding, so no retcon can be made.We will not let people chop and change RP simply because they feel like it. Actions, once taken cannot be taken back. The way I see it is, if Sumer can do this then I can claim Fall Barbarossa never happened and I get Slavorussia back. That’s the example that I feel you're setting for other people in cnrp, and it'll probably only have a bad outcome. And I hereby Claim that the war with the original PAC never happened, and the Ryukyus, Kyushu, and Shikoku now belong to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 You seem to have forgotten that I HAD CANCELED the invasion before Sargun made a IC move. It does not matter, you cannot cancel your own RP. If something happens, it stays happened. If a RP move is not a godmod, it will never be retconned. The invasion and counter invasion are still cannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Well Justinian, here's the thing http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=54772 Read section one, "Russian Invasion" Plus, here's what Sargun said about why he pushed on with the RP: http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/em.../sarguntalk.jpg I feel sorry for you, Justinian, but your case doesn't apply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) It does not matter, you cannot cancel your own RP. If something happens, it stays happened. If a RP move is not a godmod, it will never be retconned. The invasion and counter invasion are still cannon. Try telling that to the other person who's supposed to be involved in the RP. Really, LVN, you have interests in the RP, so I don't think it's good for you to push for it being canon, even if we ignore the fact that Vince and Subtle agreed to the matter. Edited April 24, 2009 by Sumeragi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Try telling that to the other person who's supposed to be involved in the RP. Really, LVN, you have interests in the RP, so I don't think it's good for you to push for it being canon, even if we ignore the fact that Vince and Subtle agreed to the matter. Actually I don't have any interests in that RP. I was going to participate, but then decided against it. I think that this sets a bad precedent, of "I invade, oh whoops I don't" People have to learn that any action they take will not be able to be taken back. If you make a move, you cannot unmake it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) I'll just wait for the other GMs to say something. In the meantime, here are my territories: Manchuria Inner Mongolia Outer Mongolia Uyghurstan Karagandy Province East Kazakhstan Baikonur City Central Asia can be split up between Cochin and Justinian. Coby will get my piece of Qinghai Keshav gets my piece of Ganshu Frost gets nothing. Edited April 24, 2009 by Sumeragi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I'll just wait for the other GMs to say something.In the meantime, here are my territories: Manchuria Inner Mongolia Outer Mongolia Uyghurstan Karagandy Province East Kazakhstan Baikonur City Central Asia can be split up between Cochin and Justinian. Coby will get my piece of Qinghai Keshav gets my piece of Ganshu Frost gets nothing. No. I'd rather wait for the GMs to make a final decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 No. I'd rather wait for the GMs to make a final decision. The GM's have made A final Decision. Let sumeragi cope with the fact she is no longer in Asia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 No. I'd rather wait for the GMs to make a final decision. It seems it's already final, given how two GMs already confirmed. *Waits for Mods* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSchaine Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 /me passes out asprin to GM's and Mods. I've never seen anyone be more of a headache. Sumer, I'm going to paraphrase something you once said to me, and hand it back to you: Stop being greedy and move on. Something I've noticed through your posts. You tend to grind people down with the same things over and over until they finally have had enough and just relent. Now, a question for the GM's... does Sumer's SoI cover all of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Now, a question for the GM's... does Sumer's SoI cover all of that? While I'm not a GM: Her SoI covers barely a third or fourth of Altin Urda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Her sphere of influence doesn't cover all of her claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) /me passes out asprin to GM's and Mods. I've never seen anyone be more of a headache. Sumer, I'm going to paraphrase something you once said to me, and hand it back to you: Stop being greedy and move on. Something I've noticed through your posts. You tend to grind people down with the same things over and over until they finally have had enough and just relent. Now, a question for the GM's... does Sumer's SoI cover all of that? As you can see from the post just before mine, she has a big enough SoI...but it's in the wrong place. That being said, if she moves her capital, I am willing to let her have most of that territory back, and to ret-con the whole thing. RL does take precedence. Edited April 24, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 As you can see from the post just before mine, she has a big enough SoI...but it's in the wrong place. That being said, if she moves her capital, I am willing to let her have most of that territory back, and to ret-con the whole thing. RL does take precedence. Whether your willing or not is besides the point. As LVN has stated quite clearly, her invasion was a purely legit IC action and cannot be taken back. I'm also not giving an inch back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 So you're saying that everything is unforgivable. I'm sorry, but that's not right, I'm sure if someone other than Sumeragi came home with an altered mental state (drunk/stoned) or angry about something, and needs to take it out. It's a game, and it's played for fun, but when people come in and say, "Hey, she made a mistake!" This isn't real life. Actions do not get played out with real people. It's possible to take things back. However, I agree that Sumer needs to start up again with land in her SoI, this way everyone's happy. We've seen the screenshot, we know how big her SoI is, and I'm not opposed to her starting up with that amount of land. This is my official stance, I'm not going to budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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