King Srqt Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yes, because people with morals pretend to have peace negotiations, then back out at the last second and let the second wave attack. Your leaders were staling to try and gain a strategic advantage we had to act fast and have acknowledged that we may have been too hasty. Second wave? that was the first wave, your leaders were looking to surrender before a single DoW was made against them, at least we were open to the possibility of surrender where as your alliance is continuing to fight FAN because they "haven't fought the war yet" after over a year of fighting because they "use peace mode too much". This is actually a fine example of where we are willing to compromise in a situation that it has been proven that you would not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Edit: and also a bit off topic but you guys are really going with Dogma? Really? That is perhaps the wost propaganda line I have ever seen, not only because it is ridiculously cheesy in how you are applying it but because calling yourself Dogma implies such arrogance and a sense of entitlement. Basically calling yourself that says that you agree with all the things we say about you. It's called satire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 you guys should be asking whos going to be Viceroy of Karma? if its allowed to survive at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 It's called satire. You either do not understand satire or do not understand what dogma is. Either way your propaganda is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) That is perhaps the wost propaganda line I have ever seen, not only because it is ridiculously cheesy in how you are applying it but because calling yourself Dogma implies such arrogance and a sense of entitlement. Says the guy parading with the name of karma. This is priceless. Edited April 23, 2009 by Branimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTofAK Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Your leaders were staling to try and gain a strategic advantage we had to act fast and have acknowledged that we may have been too hasty. Second wave? that was the first wave, your leaders were looking to surrender before a single DoW was made against them, at least we were open to the possibility of surrender where as your alliance is continuing to fight FAN because they "haven't fought the war yet" after over a year of fighting because they "use peace mode too much".This is actually a fine example of where we are willing to compromise in a situation that it has been proven that you would not be. No, you panicked the moment when Moo agreed to admit defeat. You had sent a list of faux demands you never expected would be met, that one being the lynchpin. When he agreed to that one without a second thought its clear from reading the logs that the whole tenor of the talks changed. It went from Karma trying act like the level headed fighters for peace and freedom to a bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off looking for any reason to cut off negations. When Moo’s internet carped out on him you suddenly had your reason. In the end you based your faux demands on more of a mythos created by NPO propaganda than reality. When Moo so quickly accepted the term you never believed he would never accept reality set in. Edited April 23, 2009 by GTTofAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Caspian Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 No, you panicked the moment when Moo agreed to admit defeat. You had sent a list of faux demands you never expected would be met, that one being the lynchpin. When he agreed to that one without a second thought its clear from reading the logs that the whole tenor of the talks changed. It went from Karma trying act like the level headed fighters for peace and freedom to a bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off looking for any reason to cut off negations. When Moo’s internet carped out on him you suddenly had your reason.In the end you based your faux demands on more of a mythos created by NPO propaganda than reality. When Moo so quickly accepted the term you never believed he would never accept reality set in. Yes, that's exactly what happened. Archon lost his head. You know, like usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threefingeredguy Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'd be really disappointed in NPO if they'd ever accept a viceroy. And i'm against imposing one ever. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Ubet Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 They would never accept a viceroy they would rather disband than have that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Says the guy parading with the name of karma. This is priceless. Karma is a term that represents the circular nature of cause and effect (basically what goes around comes around) which is very fitting for the group that is now taking down the people who have held everyone down for years. Dogma is a point of view that is held without any relevant evidence or grounds. While I do happen to think each term represents each group pretty well I do not think that was quite what you were going for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xantha Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 This question seems to be just a tad premature. Then again there are meds for probs like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grossman Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yes there should be. But, P always put capable good people in charge when they did Viceroyship. A viridian wouldn't be that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Karma is a term that represents the circular nature of cause and effect (basically what goes around comes around) which is very fitting for the group that is now taking down the people who have held everyone down for years. Dogma is a point of view that is held without any relevant evidence or grounds. Karma is a religious concept part of far East religions. It has different meanings for different far East religions, but its a "mechanism" lets say. Usually its not claimed that one is "karma" or enforcer of "karma" or representative of "karma". Typically God, God like entities or nature are only entitled to this claims. It is typical though, then when one goes to such lengths, that the perversion of the term happens. And in what way we have are presentation here. Karma for those not really understanding of the term, translates to "revenge", "vengeance". Of course in their view this vengeance is justified. But karma is not a vengeance (but then again isn't all vengeance justified to the eyes of those who seek it?). Its a balancing mechanism, emotional less in its own way. While I do happen to think each term represents each group pretty well I do not think that was quite what you were going for. I do think that it would be much better if people would not call their revenge vendettas "karmas" to sound even more pompous and self righteous in their very down to Earth agendas. Retribution is as a fitting term as any. IMO, of course obviously you disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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