Detlev Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 This is what happens when you treaty every alliance in the game. Poor showing, mha. What is one of your treaties worth? Not much, in my estimation. You should have dropped NPO back when you last signed with Gramlins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Paul Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I love Sorum and Croshtor, but really you guys should have just dropped relations with NPO altogether. If you want to defend them, do it. If you didn't want to defend them when they got dogpiled by everyone playing King of the Hill, then cut all relations. A middle ground is not satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajistani Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 This is what happens when you treaty every alliance in the game. Poor showing, mha. What is one of your treaties worth? Not much, in my estimation. You should have dropped NPO back when you last signed with Gramlins. Every alliance? Hardly. Please learn something before you speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 so you are going to DOW on wandwagoners, dont you?Take a look at this , I dont know if its what you are looking for, http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=54956 It seems that they are surrendering, leaving the alliance at war and joining GR against NPO :lol: As unfortunate and licentious as their actions are, they are joining an alliance that has already retaliated against Pacifica. If GR wishes to accept their cowardly deserting hides, then that is none of the MHA's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajistani Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 As unfortunate and licentious as their actions are, they are joining an alliance that has already retaliated against Pacifica. If GR wishes to accept their cowardly deserting hides, then that is none of the MHA's business. What about this DoE and DoW? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=54882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I love Sorum and Croshtor, but really you guys should have just dropped relations with NPO altogether.If you want to defend them, do it. If you didn't want to defend them when they got dogpiled by everyone playing King of the Hill, then cut all relations. A middle ground is not satisfying. Pacifica have been a loyal and honorable treaty partner. However in this current situation, the MHA leadership and membership does not believe Pacifica's actions have been just and as such, we do not seek to legitimate their actions by declaring on alliances that, in our view do not deserve to be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aming Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 great decision o/ MHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 What about this DoE and DoW? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=54882 That's what we're talking about. This has already been noted and I'm sure their two (out of five) nations that are currently at war with NPO will be contacted shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpadrino Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 As unfortunate and licentious as their actions are, they are joining an alliance that has already retaliated against Pacifica. If GR wishes to accept their cowardly deserting hides, then that is none of the MHA's business. Its your decision and I dont want to look like a troll against your alliance, but GR retaliated, MAD doesnt, from the OP -> "we will defend the NPO against anyone who seeks to bandwagon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfloyd2002 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm proud to have such strong friendships in MHA. Well done, guys, in a very difficult situation. That you come out of such a hard time with honor and reputation in tact says much of MHA as an alliance and especially about the character of its leadership. MHAil to WCR, Sorum, Crushtania and their wise advisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzygy Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Maybe some people forget that, at least as far as I am informed, MHA was neither consulted nor informed about the war started by the NPO. Which means the New Pacific Order has violated their treaty with the MHA. This alone - putting a partner-alliance at risk for the own arrogance of not even consulting them before going to war - would be enough to rendering the whole MHA-NPO treaty null and void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajistani Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Maybe some people forget that, at least as far as I am informed, MHA was neither consulted nor informed about the war started by the NPO. Which means the New Pacific Order has violated their treaty with the MHA. This alone - putting a partner-alliance at risk for the own arrogance of not even consulting them before going to war - would be enough to rendering the whole MHA-NPO treaty null and void. Wise words as always DAC. But what about all these other alliances that were involved in the "peace talks." Quite a few are allied to MHA, will MHA drop those treaties ? (Not a troll, just wondering..) Pseudo-Edit: This is assuming they DO drop NPOs treaty post-war because of what you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badbrownies Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Although I do not side with anyone in this conflict, I still think this is a great showing of honor and loyalty by MHA. Bandwagoners should be dealt with severely. o/MHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingClassRuler Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 We'll be speaking to GR about that, as they were already in the conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajistani Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 We'll be speaking to GR about that, as they were already in the conflict. Alliance seniority easily reveals who is bandwaggoning via joining GR. Also they say that they planned it prior to the war declaration... but they posted it 6 hours afterwards. I would get proof of that if I were you. (Not that I am telling you how to do your job WCR. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 What about this DoE and DoW? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=54882 They have been given notification that if their attacks do not cease within 48 hours, a state of war will exist between IOTA and MHA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Alliance seniority easily reveals who is bandwaggoning via joining GR. Also they say that they planned it prior to the war declaration... but they posted it 6 hours afterwards. I would get proof of that if I were you. (Not that I am telling you how to do your job WCR. ) All bandwagoning and claims of suspected bandwagoning will be investigated by MHA. Those deemed to be engaged in bandwagoning activities will be declared upon as previously stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baden-Württemberg Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I see that the MHA is in a pretty difficult situation right now. I am sure, if the friendship to the NPO didn't matter to them, they wouldn't have signed an eternal treaty. If we keep in mind that Pacifica is the aggressor here (and not the victim), that's a very honorable and solid decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasin Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 This is an excellent reminder to people who think they can just hop in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I always like you, Crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3filed Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Sticking the plaster upon half of the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Rahl Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 As much as I understand the necessity for this, it begins to make Karma appear like the new Hegemony.Sorry, I cannot hail this. You can't hail this because it makes karma look bad?! Really? That statement alone makes you appear to be like a new hegemony, because that is exactly the kind of statement that someone from the old(?) hegemony would make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimJulius Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) So....basically some alliance who is in this war just request "help" from another alliance they have no treaty with to join in this war and provide military aid or money...how would MHA deal with that? Edited April 22, 2009 by SeraphimJulius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) So....basically some alliance who is in this war just request "help" from another alliance they have no treaty with to join in this war and provide military aid or money...how would MHA deal with that? Deal with what, the requesting alliance or the alliance that has no business getting involved? Edited April 22, 2009 by Kowalski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttaagg Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Haha, this is awesome, MHA for lyfe yo! No, seriously, avoid going to war with the big dogs because you're too afraid to lose some NS or something. But then fight the "bandwagoners" to "uphold" your treaty. I'd call you classy, but I think the sarcasm would be lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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