KingEsus Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Heh. Even NpO had people fighting for them. Pacifica? They'll die alone and unloved, which while small consolation for seeing their despicable toadies getting off scott free, is consolation nonetheless. Now that's just depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I await the attacks of 1v and Q. I do believe this is a rouse and I assure you all that Karma is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Deceitful?Fails. not like people will put their arms down...they'll be expecting war for a while. Well, yeah, and attempt to be deceitful though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfloyd2002 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) I am clearly among the vast minority willing to wait to judge this with a few days perspective. During the last war, allies of GGA and Valhalla were harshly criticized for following them into war after what was said to be a weak CB. I think we should consider that not all those involved in canceling on NPO are motivated by selfishness, but that concerns over the manner that this war started - an aggressive move during peace discussions against a far weaker foe - played a role. Or even the advice of NPO itself. While many of us think it more honorable to hold a treaty even in the face of a cause you do not believe in, a decision not to let a bad CB not of your choosing (and perhaps without advance notice or consultation) destroy your alliance may not deserve this harsh of criticism. Would all of you truly be willing to leave your nations, and your alliances, smoldering on the short side of a massive nuclear war in support of this particular CB if there was poor communication about starting the war? And what if that ally told you to do it to save yourselves and preserve strength? Also, I'm just not sure that another shoe won't drop on this that clarifies somewhat. We'll see. I don't think all their treaties with NPO are dropped . . . Edited April 22, 2009 by gfloyd2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 some people should stop acting like they would decide how this conflict ends. it might seriously piss off the people who truly decide about the future. And a hint: thats not wise.Forget NPO Viceroys. Forget disbanding NPO. Forget ZI'ing NPO. Or whatever wet dreams some people might have. Nothing of that will happen. Also I would suggest everyone listen to this, none of those thing swill happen and if that is your fantasy then you do not understand why we fight. NPO is a community and home to many, I would sooner join them and fight under their flag than condone destroying yet another community in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I bet NPO wishes they hadn't have screwed over Polar last year now. They had fair warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) I love how the Karma is already acting like the war is over and they can destroy anyone in CN when NPO is only down about 900k so far. Don't think you can take on more than you can handle. Also, TPF has been on the losing side before - UJW. Considering how many nations are in peace mode, how few nations we deployed to attack, and the lack of nukes so far; even at this rate you're set to be below 5 mil within 3 weeks. You can't say "only 900k" and make that seem like a positive thing for you guys, especially not in this situation. Edited April 22, 2009 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 some people should stop acting like they would decide how this conflict ends. it might seriously piss off the people who truly decide about the future. And a hint: thats not wise.Forget NPO Viceroys. Forget disbanding NPO. Forget ZI'ing NPO. Or whatever wet dreams some people might have. Nothing of that will happen. Hopefully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I love how the Karma is already acting like the war is over and they can destroy anyone in CN when NPO is only down about 900k so far. Don't think you can take on more than you can handle. Also, TPF has been on the losing side before - UJW. Funny that you use UJP as the example of TPF being on the losing side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The same guys bailing now bailed on Polar last year... Why is anyone shocked? The same people some of us labeled betrayers last year are betrayers yet again this year. Nothing has changed and nothing will change. Anyone who is acting shocked right now hasn't paid attention to the past nor learned from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 some people should stop acting like they would decide how this conflict ends. it might seriously piss off the people who truly decide about the future. And a hint: thats not wise.Forget NPO Viceroys. Forget disbanding NPO. Forget ZI'ing NPO. Or whatever wet dreams some people might have. Nothing of that will happen. Very well said - Now that doesnt mean people cant have fun with rhetoric on the forums but those are subjects that really should be left alone for the reasons stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyriq Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Wow, what an interesting situation. IMO the worst thing that NPO has done is that they play the game so damn well. If they win, then everyone else losses, and that's just plain no fun. I've even found myself defending their merits to my alliance mates as the greatest thing to happen to Bob. My argument is that we need to only look at the level of sophistication found in current politics to see their impact. They've played the game at a higher level for so long, it took Bob 3 years to finally catch up. Also, some of the greatest minds in this game come from or are in the NPO. Look at their leadership, NpO's leadership, NSO's leadership, Vox's leadership, and you will see what I mean. Then just look at the rest of the great players in this game, they've all been forged in Pacifica's fires; Archon and the rest of C&G for instance. Have they screwed some people and alliances, sure, but that is the nature of the beast. Do they deserve this war? Honestly I don't know how you couldn't say otherwise. This war could be the best thing to happen to this game. I just hope this is kept in mind when things begin to settle down. Talk of destroying Pacifica is like talking about tearing down Rome. Rome fell, sure, but at the hands of barbarians, and that ushered in a century of horror. I hope that same mistake isn't replicated here. Edit: Been, not be Edited April 22, 2009 by eyriq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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