topgun0820 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 o/ cowardice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 There's a song in my head that's blowing up in [ooc]new york[ooc] right now, that is just so.. fitting, for you guys right now. you the !@#$@#$ best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Solid announcement MHA, good to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazymatty Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 376 people reading this thread can't be wrong...when MHA talks, people listen. Good show MHA...I would expect nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobiashiy Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Very smart choice. o/MHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samotopia Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Good stuff MHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Scream Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Choosing which treaties to follow and which ones to ignore? Heh. I remember that time NPO ignored the "Lets be drinking buddies pact" and cancelled it after GOONS was at war. You know, the time NPO betrayed GOONS? NPO has no right to lecture about honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Choosing which treaties to follow and which ones to ignore? Heh. It's liking choosing other alliances to do your diplomacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's important for alliances to evaluate their treaties and given the current situation I applaud MHA for the path they have chosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 In order to resolve any possible treaty conflicts, therefore, those who support the NPO/TORN war will not be defended by the MHA. As we are already informed of the positions of the following partners, these treaties will be fully activated should any alliance declare war upon them:- The Trident These two quotes are direct contradictions. As soon as NPO is attacked, NATO is obligated to come to their defense. If you intend to fully activate Trident, you'd have to declare war alongside NATO... in defence of NPO and their war. The only solution I can see is Fark and MHA intend to eject NATO from Trident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 So very much like the OoO. No, not quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloop Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 These two quotes are direct contradictions. As soon as NPO is attacked, NATO is obligated to come to their defense. If you intend to fully activate Trident, you'd have to declare war alongside NATO... in defence of NPO and their war.The only solution I can see is Fark and MHA intend to eject NATO from Trident. Or NATO isn't stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o ya baby Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 No, not quite. Close enough, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Ubet Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I love you MHA!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the clarification I wondering about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Standing up for what you believe in is great. Props for that. But when you signed a treaty with a year-long cancellation clause, did it not once cross your mind that you might find yourselves in a situation where it might need to be canceled in, you know, a reasonable timeframe? When you sign your name to something, be prepared to follow through. If you're not prepared to follow through, don't sign your name. If you sign your name and don't follow through, your oath and name are worth nothing. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 These two quotes are direct contradictions. As soon as NPO is attacked, NATO is obligated to come to their defense. If you intend to fully activate Trident, you'd have to declare war alongside NATO... in defence of NPO and their war.The only solution I can see is Fark and MHA intend to eject NATO from Trident. Or they could just ignore the part about NATO being in Trident like they are going to ignore our treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 No, not quite. Yes, quite. That debate is not for this thread, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm not sure how it's classy or honorable to decide that because you disagree with what they did you won't honor your obligations. Now if you argue that due to them launching the war in the first place any retaliation is inherently defensive or something that's one thing, but to simply say "we think you're wrong, so we're just not going to activate our treaties" is weird at best. You can't "activate" a treaty like that. Also, I've been very much looking forward to the announcement kicking off the one-year cancelation period. Don't let me down, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Destruction Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Close enough, no? No, not really. Not close at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles VI Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's liking choosing other alliances to do your diplomacy. No, actually. It has nothing like that at all. I remember that time NPO ignored the "Lets be drinking buddies pact" and cancelled it after GOONS was at war. You know, the time NPO betrayed GOONS?NPO has no right to lecture about honor. Well if MHA's justification for this is basically summed up as ''No U!'', may I point out that we had the decency to at least cancel the treaty. MHA simply disregards it at its choosing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgun0820 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Standing up for what you believe in is great. Props for that. But when you signed a treaty with a year-long cancellation clause, did it not once cross your mind that you might find yourselves in a situation where it might need to be canceled in, you know, a reasonable timeframe? When you sign your name to something, be prepared to follow through. If you're not prepared to follow through, don't sign your name. If you sign your name and don't follow through, your oath and name are worth nothing.-Bama Poor show MHA Edited April 22, 2009 by topgun0820 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15pilotX Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Your tears are so delicious.Am I doin it rite? Tears? Heh. Try jackboots. And they are not delicious, I assure you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Or NATO isn't stupid. This is indeed possible, I don't consider it likely though. Or they could just ignore the part about NATO being in Trident like they are going to ignore our treaty. Your war against Ordo Verde was an aggressive war. The aggression part of your treaty is optional. All repercussions of your aggressive war are not defensive wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 It's great to hear that the MHA takes its agreements seriously. It's also funny to see how little you care about your friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwedupmonkey Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Or they could just ignore the part about NATO being in Trident like they are going to ignore our treaty. Cry about it. You did the same thing to GOONS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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