Bacharth Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Situation: Sumeragi was wiped from the map and banned from CNRP. This ruling was overturned by HK47. Sumeragi wants all of her land back. CNRP Mod Opinion: Although she was overturned, she still did something wrong. New nations are now in her territory, and RPs have been made in that territory. Sumeragi will get some of her land back, but not all of it. Official Ruling: 1. Existing nations, you will reduce your expansion into her territory by 25%, and nations that have been created out of her territory will stay. 2. Sumeragi will get a small amount of land that is about the size of her SoI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Confirmed, though I was given to understand all expansions by nations currently in existence at her wipe would be erased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Well, she should not get her full lands, or even close to that back. The SoI thing is true. If she wants to roleplay conquests from her original claim, she should be put back on the map with her SoI area, regarding the Botha rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Confirmed, though I was given to understand all expansions by nations currently in existence at her wipe would be erased. Her WIPE was never overturned, I don't know where people are getting this from. also, 25%? what would be the point of giving her small pockets of land through out asia, when she is going to be invaded and wiped off the map anyway? It would have been better to just stick with Sargun's ruling and live with the fact that she is facing the consequences of her actions. It's bad enough that some of us have to deal with Rping rebels, but now your going to put us through the trouble of having to redo our rps, especially when you know perfectly well that Sumer will try to godmode her way to victory. Poor way to start off being a mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Poor way to start off being a mod Hey, hey, ease up on that. Subtle's trying to do his job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) She would not have small pockets of land throughout asia. She would be given land back, a continuous piece of land, around equal to her SoI. Then you guys could invade her. Either way, I don't see why you care, you are going to invade her, and once that happens, she's going to be rolled, and wiped off the map anyway. Deal with it. Oh Godmode, boo hoo. When neutral parties spy a godmode, we'll look into it. This ruling is final. Edited April 21, 2009 by VinceSixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Her WIPE was never overturned, I don't know where people are getting this from. also, 25%? what would be the point of giving her small pockets of land through out asia, when she is going to be invaded and wiped off the map anyway? It would have been better to just stick with Sargun's ruling and live with the fact that she is facing the consequences of her actions. It's bad enough that some of us have to deal with Rping rebels, but now your going to put us through the trouble of having to redo our rps, especially when you know perfectly well that Sumer will try to godmode her way to victory. Poor way to start off being a mod Then invade her once she's taken what land she has been given back. However, our decision stands. Yes her wipe was never overturned, but it should have been. This is the best that can be done. I stand with Vince on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Good ruling also in my case forget the 25% stuff returning it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) This ruling is very sane and I completely endorse it. Any attempt by Sumeragi to expand her territory beyond her allotment will be enforced IC with a war with the entirety of South East Asia if not the entire world. I will personally ensure this. Edited April 21, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 This brown area, minus any new nations that might have arisen from this territory, is what Sumeragi will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I don't like it but I'll go with it. GM decision, live with it guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 So basically, all of Uzbekistan, all of Kyrgyzstan, all of Tajikistan except Gorno-Badakhshan province, and Mangystau, Qyzylorda, Qaraghandy, South Kazakhstan, Zhambyl, Almaty, and East Kazakhstan provinces in Kazakhstan. (For reference to mapmakers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Her WIPE was never overturned, I don't know where people are getting this from. also, 25%? what would be the point of giving her small pockets of land through out asia, when she is going to be invaded and wiped off the map anyway? It would have been better to just stick with Sargun's ruling and live with the fact that she is facing the consequences of her actions. It's bad enough that some of us have to deal with Rping rebels, but now your going to put us through the trouble of having to redo our rps, especially when you know perfectly well that Sumer will try to godmode her way to victory. Poor way to start off being a mod You don't like it? Tough. Learn to live with it. Sargun is not a GM anymore. If you don't like the new GM's then you can always leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Kingdom of Cochin claims this territory in Central Asia as per previous claims for map 5.0. This is only a general reference and not a precise claim. i do not claim territories belonging to other existing nations. Edited April 21, 2009 by king of cochin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Hate to say it, but I think you're only going to end up with Xinkiang and Gorno-Badakhshan after this ruling, Cochin. Edited April 21, 2009 by Uralica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Long as he has a nation, it's fine. That's the important part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Good ruling also in my case forget the 25% stuff returning it all That's very generous of you. You don't like it? Tough. Learn to live with it. Sargun is not a GM anymore. If you don't like the new GM's then you can always leave. While this is true, there are more diplomatic ways it could be put. i don;t like rubbing things in people's faces. Hate to say it, but I think you're only going to end up with Xinkiang and Gorno-Badakhshan after this ruling, Cochin. Long as he has a nation, it's fine. That's the important part. Aye, what MV says. He won;t get all, but he'll have something to Rp with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks for asking me. I'm not going to contest anything here, but it would have been nice to be asked. (Srs, I went to sleep, woke up and this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks for asking me. I'm not going to contest anything here, but it would have been nice to be asked. (Srs, I went to sleep, woke up and this) Democracy? In your CNRP? It's more likely than I thought, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks for asking me. I'm not going to contest anything here, but it would have been nice to be asked. (Srs, I went to sleep, woke up and this) Hey, if it makes you feel any better, it was the first thing I saw when I logged on. Not a pleasant situation to deal with, really. Especially when I don't actively dislike anyone involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Her WIPE was never overturned, I don't know where people are getting this from. also, 25%? what would be the point of giving her small pockets of land through out asia, when she is going to be invaded and wiped off the map anyway? It would have been better to just stick with Sargun's ruling and live with the fact that she is facing the consequences of her actions. It's bad enough that some of us have to deal with Rping rebels, but now your going to put us through the trouble of having to redo our rps, especially when you know perfectly well that Sumer will try to godmode her way to victory. Poor way to start off being a mod Frost, if the same thing happened to you, and a bunch of nations just chopped up your nation, because you got booted off the map for a short time. You'd be trying to say the same things sumer is. People lunged on the open land like starving mad men at a Golden Corral buffet. Even though open land exists world wide still. Edited April 21, 2009 by Tahsir Re Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Considering both parties are NOT going to walk out wholly satisfied regardless of the arrangement, this one was very suitable, still. Kudos to our GM's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 This brown area, minus any new nations that might have arisen from this territory, is what Sumeragi will get. Most of that belongs to the Central Asian Federation. What am I supposed to do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Hmm...like I said...this would be easier if there was a map of the Asian lands. LVN, we can talk for a bit on this, as you know the map better than the rest of us do. For now, would everyone take the newest Sargun map and place their claims on there? We really do not know who has what, so for now, ignore the ruling. Edited April 22, 2009 by VinceSixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 While this is true, there are more diplomatic ways it could be put. i don;t like rubbing things in people's faces. Well, I didn't really mean to come off as rubbing it in his face, it's just that from my experience people like Frost need to be told bluntly what the situation is. He beeds to accept (if he hasn't already from my point of veiw) that you and Vince are now the GMs, not Sargun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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