Azrael Alexander Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 This kind of gives away the fact MHA will be entering this upcoming conflict.. in the summer. Because if we were going to war we would first tell our protectorates and ask what they would do right? I have some great words of advice a hitchhiker said to me, "Don't Panic". Do what you need to do Arcticans if any of your members want any action they know what to do Also we need some place to hide our banks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Stop the pre-emptive DoNs! You're scaring the war away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak1029 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 We are declareing our neutrality in the upcoming war and even though MHA is our protectors we will not be fighting in any up coming war with them or anyone else for that matter. Nobody cares. MHA doesn't even care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Principe Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Just shut up, pleaseI have never heard of you and I dont think anyone cares Methinks we (MHA) cares about the Arctic Order, otherwise we would not protect them. And I personaly would appreciate it if you would treat other people and alliances with a little more respect please. mmmk then i'm pretty sure protectorates are one way only so you were in no threat (I hope) Indeed, thats why it is called a protectorate and not an MDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Apparently MHA hasn't taught you the first Hitchhiker-ism... "Don't Panic!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 What upcoming war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ozujsko Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) Neutral about what? Everything in Cybernations is smooth like gravy. Edited April 18, 2009 by General Ozujsko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleh32 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Very true, OA will be jumping in and we are about 10 men . Size does not matter, and Im pretty sure your Allies at the MHA would do the war targeting for you, Or may I say the Gramlins most likely would Well it looks more like you guys are about 22 men, but it's still good to see that you're going to fight despite your size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Good luck with Neutrality. I'm sure that MHA and you other allies will understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashmaniac104 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 It's good that you're looking out for your alliance, but was this DoN really necessary? Personally, it would have probably been better worded as a statement of nonmilitary support for MHA, then you wouldn't seem quite as cowardly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 DoN before war? Not in my CN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmia Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I know being a protectorate and with the circulating war rumors, it can seem daunting. However, the best thing to do is just listen to your protector. You're not obligated to jump in hence the reason of being a protectorate. Posting a DoN before war tensions is usually not a good idea because that is declaring neutrality for something that has not even occurred yet or may not even occur. Do what you have to do but the best advice will come from your protector, not the OWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsumpot Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I know being a protectorate and with the circulating war rumors, it can seem daunting. However, the best thing to do is just listen to your protector. You're not obligated to jump in hence the reason of being a protectorate. Posting a DoN before war tensions is usually not a good idea because that is declaring neutrality for something that has not even occurred yet or may not even occur. Do what you have to do but the best advice will come from your protector, not the OWF. Lies, you should listen to every advice given here and take it as the gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckz3 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Because if we were going to war we would first tell our protectorates and ask what they would do right? I have some great words of advice a hitchhiker said to me, "Don't Panic". Do what you need to do Arcticans if any of your members want any action they know what to do Also we need some place to hide our banks Good Job sham.. btw, you still over using Don't Panic I see? Well it looks more like you guys are about 22 men, but it's still good to see that you're going to fight despite your size. We are, but we may pull a jarheads and jump to 400 members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtkode Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I love how people just come out and say THERE IS GOING TO BE A WAR SEEING AS OUR PROTECTORS SAID SO lol, so were not going to fight, haha come on. o/ neutrality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobb Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Good to know you're neutral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss Goodbye Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I sincerely hope you've cleared this with MHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiawatha Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 This just seems counterproductive, like deliberately putting your blip on the radar in order to avoid getting attacked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rg0tt3n 0n3 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 o good im glad you thought long and hard about this potential war. I hope the neutrality works. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Fail. Way to go and way to thank your protectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatsam Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) Interesting. I was previously unaware of how most nations thought about neutrality on the CN boards, but after this four page thread, I consider myself enlightened. Thank you everyone, for pounding it into TAO's head that they are cowards in your view, however redundant it may be. I'm sure TAO is grateful for your consideration, but I don't expect them to lose sleep. Despite what seems to be common opinion, TAO does not need to prove themselves to us. We are quite content with protecting them, irregardless of their decisions on neutrality. We understood that when we signed the treaty, and we are not so tyrannic as to demand they fight in our wars. Part of the reason an alliance seeks a protector is to avoid war altogether, not to ensure a place in the next global conflict. The MHA discourages its protectorates to feel obligated to fight for us; when one signs a protectorate treaty, he does not sign it expecting to be a meat shield, as some of you expect him to do. You are all entitled to your opinions, don't get me wrong. Feel free to fill up these threads with your philosophy all you wish; it's a right bestowed upon you all by the great administrator in the tubes. But please, consider your audience. You are not castigating some huge sanctioned alliance. Respect is a two way street, if you'll excuse my atrocious cliché; some of you demand it from your enemies, but withhold it from everyone else. Edited April 20, 2009 by Floatsam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Well said Floatsam. Just because TAO are under MHA protection does not mean they bend to our will in terms of alliance administration and foreign policy. The terms of EPIC do not stipluate that TAO are, for all intents and purposes, our colony. We are their brothers. Brothers, when they are fighting try to leave their brothers out of it, lest they want to help. TAO and our protectorates do not exist by the virtue of our continued benevolence; we do not keep our friends in check by chaining them to a treaty or threaten cancellation when they "step out of line." We attempt to provide an environment with which to cultivate their eventual independence. If you are in an alliance that only keeps protectorates as a convenient reserve fighting force in times of crisis, then I feel sorry for you; most of all, I feel sorry for your protectorates. Edited April 21, 2009 by Crushtania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Interesting. I was previously unaware of how most nations thought about neutrality on the CN boards, but after this four page thread, I consider myself enlightened. Thank you everyone, for pounding it into TAO's head that they are cowards in your view, however redundant it may be. I'm sure TAO is grateful for your consideration, but I don't expect them to lose sleep.Despite what seems to be common opinion, TAO does not need to prove themselves to us. We are quite content with protecting them, irregardless of their decisions on neutrality. We understood that when we signed the treaty, and we are not so tyrannic as to demand they fight in our wars. Part of the reason an alliance seeks a protector is to avoid war altogether, not to ensure a place in the next global conflict. The MHA discourages its protectorates to feel obligated to fight for us; when one signs a protectorate treaty, he does not sign it expecting to be a meat shield, as some of you expect him to do. You are all entitled to your opinions, don't get me wrong. Feel free to fill up these threads with your philosophy all you wish; it's a right bestowed upon you all by the great administrator in the tubes. But please, consider your audience. You are not castigating some huge sanctioned alliance. Respect is a two way street, if you'll excuse my atrocious cliché; some of you demand it from your enemies, but withhold it from everyone else. I imagine people are just worked up over all the war and gore rumors floating around and are looking for a scapegoat to vent on. Besides, no one who has ridiculed TAO is (to my knowledge) in a leadership position, so it's not like their opinions even matter. Nonetheless, it's nice to see you taking a stand for your protectorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azhrarn Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Speaking for myself only, I think these premature DoN would come across better if there was actually an ongoing war towards which one could be neutral. Having mere protectorates declaring neutrality during peace time, I don't get it. Are people actually that scared by the war rumors? Edited April 21, 2009 by Azhrarn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Speaking for myself only, I think these premature DoN would come across better if there was actually an ongoing war towards which one could be neutral. Having mere protectorates declaring neutrality during peace time, I don't get it. Are people actually that scared by the war rumors? Clearly they are. When people start putting up sigs meant to insult their enemies, sit around at update pressing f5 and enter into peace mode en-mass I think it's fairly safe to say that people expect a war. Edited April 21, 2009 by Hydro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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