Cobalt Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Great Wars ended with the demise of the LUE/League vs NPO/Initiative rivalry, which is why there's contention as to whether the Unjust Path War was GW4... if it was as simple as "everyone fighting = great war" there wouldn't be discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Soviet Attack Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I could start a war whenever I want. I'm waiting until I have an MP though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWConner Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Don't most great wars start between smaller alliances of some distinction who happen to have Military treaties with larger, sanctioned alliances? /me looks at his alliance... Well, we nearly were at it a few weeks ago (/me looks at Hoo) so why not start it up again? Edited April 10, 2009 by JWConner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I say, we agree that the next major conflict simply be called "Yearly, Boredom Because It's Summer War" it would be more accurate and it would put the kibosh on these "NO THIS IS A GREAT WAR 'CAUSE OF BLAH BLAH BLAH AND OTHER STUFF THAT REALLY DIDN'T MATTER AT THE TIME AND NOBODY REALLY DISCUSSED AT LENGTH UNTIL AFTER THE FACT TO MAKE THE NEWBS FEEL LIKE THEY HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING..." arguments that always arise and always sing the same refrain. At least this way, we've got something new to troll each other about. Just an idea... This! . . . makes me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I can see the argument of UJW being counted as Great War IV, but there has definitely been no war being merited as GWV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) Its not that hard to start a great war, Make you a small alliance of people (About 20 or so people) who want it to start, Get a well-known and strong protector, Attack a main combatant in the war, Get their allies to attack you, Call in your protector. Bam you got a great war. The rest of the work is left up to the MDP and treaty webs. Its what has started The Unjust War and The War of the Coalition. Edited April 11, 2009 by Rotavele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Its not that hard to start a great war, Make you a small alliance of people (About 20 or so people) who want it to start, Get a well-known and strong protector, Attack a main combatant in the war, Get their allies to attack you, Call in your protector. Bam you got a great war. The rest of the work is left up to the MDP and treaty webs. Its what has started The Unjust War and The War of the Coalition. That is how the Unjust War started, yes. It is not how the War of the Coalition started. Unless you're going to tell me Hyperion was created in order to lure GGA and Valhalla into attacking them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 A spark is a fairly harmless event unless you fill the room with flammable gas first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 That is how the Unjust War started, yes.It is not how the War of the Coalition started. Unless you're going to tell me Hyperion was created in order to lure GGA and Valhalla into attacking them. You didnt hear the "Atlantis Re-Rolled into Hyperion, Their just asking for trouble" from any of those alliances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 lol, Poliz just check into your barracks and get off the OWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 lol, Poliz just check into your barracks and get off the OWF. /me checks if AUT is signed in himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaykilla101 Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 wow.... hmmm here is my theory after getting bored of reading everyones theories and what not. Ok here it goes. The unjust war was not a Great War. Not specified as a Cyber war so in therfore it is jus the unjust war. not a great war so therfore we are still on course for GW4. I never fought in the unjust war but I can see that it is not a GW. Now as for trying to tell people to get this war on with lol it will take its course. Not one man can start a GW... ok maybe if your good enough but hey what do I know I am just a messenger. So as for that Let the war come and go as it is in destiny. A GW has happened each year since CN has began GW4 will be big and huge and will change and shift the power in CN. I know this for a fact, tensions rising. people getting frusterated with their treaties and not viewing the same points anymore. (aka tension) War will come and war will go. so I dont see the reason for this topic good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderago Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) A spark is a fairly harmless event unless you fill the room with flammable gas first. hey I got the matches do you have an oxygen tank ? Edited April 12, 2009 by sircrimson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrooling Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Threads like this only slow things down. Stop speculating, it'll come, just let it snowball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Great Wars ended with the demise of the LUE/League vs NPO/Initiative rivalry, which is why there's contention as to whether the Unjust Path War was GW4... if it was as simple as "everyone fighting = great war" there wouldn't be discussion. I've always thought this was a dumb argument. If you oldies wanted the "Great War series" to only be NPO vs LUE, you should have thought of a less ambiguous name than "Great War". [OOC]We'd still call a world-wide conflict WW3 even if it wasn't Great Britain vs Germany.[/OOC] I agree with Hal's definitions. Both the Unjust War and the New Polar War (or whatever) involved massive percentages of the planet's nations, occupied the attention of the OWF for their durations and caused major change in the political landscape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy McMann Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Let's see...I'm booked until summer, I don't think I can handle the coming GRL until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Let's see...I'm booked until summer, I don't think I can handle the coming GRL until then. Heh, I'm sure going to miss Radiation Clean-Up next time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Stranger Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 If curbstomps of fairly big alliances count, why aren't we on #7, given the "Green Civil War"?Also you try starting a war. Not such easy work, bub. So blowing up a few nukes won't start a war anymore? God, what is this world coming to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerius Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 The Unjust War is a Great War since it was fought on a global scale and it was even early on. The War of the Coalition was never even and always one-sided. The next war will be Great War V unless it's one-sided through out the whole war. I agree for the most part (The next GW will be the 5th), however by your definition GWI probably shouldn't count. After all, it was relatively curbs-tomp-esque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Kinda hard to have GW VI when we haven't had GWIII yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoXV Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 I think the more it delayed, the more one of the sides losing its allies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 You didnt hear the "Atlantis Re-Rolled into Hyperion, Their just asking for trouble" from any of those alliances? I hear a lot of stupid things. I've yet to hear "Hyperion was created solely in order to give GGA and Valhalla a CB." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 "Hyperion was created solely in order to give GGA and Valhalla a CB." He knows the secret.. someone "deal" with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I was under the impression that Great Wars entailed large shifts in the political environment on Bob. For example, after the First Great War, the Orders were no longer as powerful as they were, and with the Second Great War, more alliances began to come to the side of the Orders, and with the third Great War, there was established the idea that has stuck with us for so long, that the Orders are the most powerful alliances on Bob, unchallenged in that role. The next great war will see another massive political revolution. The Unjust War did not involve a major political shift, rather it was the end of WUT, and the Unjust Path never had any power anyway. And the Second Great Patriotic War was not a great war either for the same reasons. Can we all just say that there were 3 Great Wars and move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) Sorry, no can do. Our schedule is booked for a while. The Cupcakery will let you know when we've selected a time and date. Thanks for your time and cooperation. Edited April 14, 2009 by Big Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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