Vilien Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Good luck, both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Sad to see the downgrade, but it's a lot better than a flat-out cancellation. o/ RoK o/ NATO o/ NO CANCELLATION!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Obviously my compliment was misplaced, because you certainly didn't know what I meantACV ring a bell? I am very sad that NATO does not have people of your magnitude among them any longer my dear friend Of course ACV rings a bell. They were a wonderful ally who at a time had a misguided leader. Surely someone such as yourself should have sense the sarcasm in my reply to your backhanded compliment. It is sad that we no longer have the Pansy. Fortunately we don't have players such as yourself anymore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Whimsical Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Of course ACV rings a bell. They were a wonderful ally who at a time had a misguided leader. Surely someone such as yourself should have sense the sarcasm in my reply to your backhanded compliment. It is sad that we no longer have the Pansy. Fortunately we don't have players such as yourself anymore either. Considering how ACV fiasco went down, you're one to talk about having misguided leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballer790 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 It'll work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 interesting turn of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbeast Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Another sound political move by Ragnarok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Considering how ACV fiasco went down, you're one to talk about having misguided leaders. Funny, the way I remember it, having actually been there, the one responsible was punished and ACV retained both its allies and honor. But the topic is not about ACV so if you wish to talk some more over a cup of tea, look me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderJerusalem Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Of course ACV rings a bell. They were a wonderful ally who at a time had a misguided leader. Surely someone such as yourself should have sense the sarcasm in my reply to your backhanded compliment. It is sad that we no longer have the Pansy. Fortunately we don't have players such as yourself anymore either. I am unaware of my supposedly stay in NATO, please, elaborate And I am certain that you can back your insults up with proof of what I did to harm NATO, yes? And lastly, there seem to be a disagreement among the NATO government here. It's not long ago I received this answer from Anu when I asked if he wanted me in NATO: You know I would. But I am happy to see that you degrade yourself in such a way. It just proves my point even further. P.S: The compliment were a real compliment. Up until that insult I regarded you as a quality leader and a great resource for NATO. I am sad to say that my vision was clouded in this matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny N Karl Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Obviously my compliment was misplaced, because you certainly didn't know what I meantACV ring a bell? I am very sad that NATO does not have people of your magnitude among them any longer my dear friend Oh SpiderJerushio, why are you flaming our thread? I find that disappointing. We are looking forward to rekindling our relationship with Ragnarok. I see no reason why it should be a matter for you. To new friendships and communication! o/ RoK o/ NATO o/ Aqua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I am unaware of my supposedly stay in NATO, please, elaborateAnd I am certain that you can back your insults up with proof of what I did to harm NATO, yes? And lastly, there seem to be a disagreement among the NATO government here. It's not long ago I received this answer from Anu when I asked if he wanted me in NATO: But I am happy to see that you degrade yourself in such a way. It just proves my point even further. P.S: The compliment were a real compliment. Up until that insult I regarded you as a quality leader and a great resource for NATO. I am sad to say that my vision was clouded in this matter Spider, I don't take kindly to people attempting to bring trouble into a thread which they have nothing to do with. If you wish to continue to argue moot points and trade insults then pm me with them. You and I both know what I am talking about, but here is not the forum to discuss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Fool Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Good luck to Polaris allies in Rok, and to NATO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Funny, the way I remember it, having actually been there, the one responsible was punished and ACV retained both its allies and honor. But the topic is not about ACV so if you wish to talk some more over a cup of tea, look me up. I'm generally not one to hold a grudge about things, but let me be clear, I am never going to forget what you did and I most certainly am not going to get over it. Edited April 9, 2009 by Delta1212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Whimsical Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Funny, the way I remember it, having actually been there, the one responsible was punished and ACV retained both its allies and honor. But the topic is not about ACV so if you wish to talk some more over a cup of tea, look me up. That is funny, because ejecting a leader of any alliance for what iClean did, hardly sounds honorable to me. As for what you did, that was hardly ally like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambona Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Sad to see this happen between two fine alliances. Here to bettering relationships in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm generally not one to hold a grudge about things, but let me be clear, I am never going to forget what you did and I mostly am not going to get over it. Think it's safe to say this goes for the vast majority of us that were around for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Whimsical Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Spider, I don't take kindly to people attempting to bring trouble into a thread which they have nothing to do with. They are our friends. I'd nuke and get nuked for them without a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randalla Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Anyway, I'm glad to see both parties actually working toward restoring their relations, rather than simply dropping the treaty entirely. It's been expressed by a couple of others before me, and I agree with the sentiment. Cheers to both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderJerusalem Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I see no reason why it should be a matter for you. As a former government member of RoK, I hold them in high regard, that's why I care To new friendships That is just too much Spider, I don't take kindly to people attempting to bring trouble into a thread which they have nothing to do with. I have everything I want to do with it, since it's on the OWF. I did not bring trouble, I was merely expressing my view on the matter. You did on the other hand want me to clarify, and I am willing to clarify it a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny N Karl Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 As a former government member of RoK, I hold them in high regard, that's why I careThat is just too much I have everything I want to do with it, since it's on the OWF. I did not bring trouble, I was merely expressing my view on the matter. You did on the other hand want me to clarify, and I am willing to clarify it a lot Well ok, SpiderKurusalem, I accept that you are former RoK, but you are FORMER RoK for a reason. flame away on the OWF, just know that we are making efforts to improve relations with the newer and improved leaders of Ragnarok. boredom really breeds the bitterness it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernkastel Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 To go from from a MDAP to a ODP... Wow. That's really all one can say. Just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderJerusalem Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Well ok, SpiderKurusalem, I accept that you are former RoK, but you are FORMER RoK for a reason. flame away on the OWF, just know that we are making efforts to improve relations with the newer and improved leaders of Ragnarok.boredom really breeds the bitterness it seems. Since they are improved, why did you downgrade a treaty you made with the older and worse government members? And the "subtle" hinting at my former character is really low OOC: The reason I am former RoK is that I made a vow to Hoo when I decided to come back to this planet. And nothing else. Clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Niagara Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 While sad to see this it also makes me proud of NATO and RoK. The review of treaties is something that happens with every alliance. When it is found that the basis of those treaties being signed has changed, I think it is a sound decision to downgrade and re-evaluate while keeping the lines of communication open with a treaty both parties can live with. o/ recognition of changes o/ doing something about it Those of you with memories of events from over a year ago and the actions of NATO need to look at the actions of more than them. MK and others did not stand for the vision that NATO did (no offense to those alliances intended). The discussion surrounding NATO's entry was a difficult one but was the right one for the membership. Being semi involved in the aftermath of that decision and discussions during that time, I support NATO in the decision that was made. While difficult it was the right one. I really think its time to move on folks..NATO has forgiven other alliances for a lot more than that in the past. o/ NATO o/ RoK Good luck on re-establishing your ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 "We didn't cancel, we still have an ODP!" lol I suppose it's one of those 'symbolic' treaties, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny N Karl Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Since they are improved, why did you downgrade a treaty you made with the older and worse government members?And the "subtle" hinting at my former character is really low OOC: The reason I am former RoK is that I made a vow to Hoo when I decided to come back to this planet. And nothing else. Clear? If you say so. The downgrade is to keep ties while the two sides get to know each other better. I think it is a wise choice for both. Why totally cancel a treaty when the talks that have already happened seem to point to a positive future? Simply a step back for now. OOC: Welcome back to BOB. Sorry for hinting at your former character, didn't know it was a secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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