Generalissimo Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I am confused as to why missile defenses won't block EMP missiles. They are mounted on cruise missiles, correct? Because that is specifically what missile defenses are meant to target... SDI's are solely used for nuclear weapons mounted on ICBMs. EMP cruise missiles, they could be using EMP cruise missiles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 As it has been several days and Justinian has responded and used this time to bring in multiple reinforcements I will be responding, assuming he has not worked to counter my tactics. I am sympathetic to him getting hit by a lot of people, but he should not be refusing to respond to the stronger nations while facing the weakest, its god modding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I am confused as to why missile defenses won't block EMP missiles. They are mounted on cruise missiles, correct? Because that is specifically what missile defenses are meant to target... SDI's are solely used for nuclear weapons mounted on ICBMs. EMP missiles airburst to get a larger effect, instead of like normal missiles which come back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Strategic Defense Inititiatives can only be cost justified in defending against nuclear attacks, however a strategic defense initiative is broken down into three defense stages, two of which target the ballistic missile rather than the warhead being delivered. You need a specific type of defensive system to defend from ballisitic missile attack rather than a conventional missile, because the ballistic missile attacks you from space. Either way, considering the massive technological disparity between my missiles and his missile defenses, without a strategic defense initiative its dubious he can defeat my counter measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...t&p=1397340 I know you probably wrote this while I was finishing my post, but could you please react to my battle operations. I now have a defensive air umbrella over southwest of the Slavorussian Empire, and you will certainly need to contest with that. Also, have your troops crossed the border into Slavorussia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Whats the rules for number of cruise missiles? IG numbers = IC numbers or do they have a multiplier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Whats the rules for number of cruise missiles? IG numbers = IC numbers or do they have a multiplier? For as far as I know unlimited as Bios/Chems/EMP are regulated by IG CM count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) yeah, unlimited CM's reaaallly don't make much sense to me. Edited April 9, 2009 by sir jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 For as far as I know unlimited as Bios/Chems/EMP are regulated by IG CM count But isn't that a bit silly because by that rule I could buy one CM IG and then launch 50 IC at my enemy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 But isn't that a bit silly because by that rule I could buy one CM IG and then launch 50 IC at my enemy? That's because Cruise Missiles do not have such terrible effects so they're pretty much equal to normal bombs in rp sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 That's because Cruise Missiles do not have such terrible effects so they're pretty much equal to normal bombs in rp sense 150 cruise missiles could cause a lot of damage if used right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 150 cruise missiles could cause a lot of damage if used right. Yep but 150 Chemical Missiles or even worse Biological would be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Ummm... invisibility technology... I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 http://science.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm Do some research, the technology already exists. I think I can apply it to my 2024 Air Force that receives the entirety of my military research funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) http://science.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htmDo some research, the technology already exists. I think I can apply it to my 2024 Air Force that receives the entirety of my military research funding. That tech is so silly, I can clearly see them. That, and there is still heat signature. Edited April 9, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 That tech is so silly, I can clearly see them.That, and there is still heat signature. You can see it on a human but imagine a high speed Aircraft with such technology on it in the air most likely when it's dark heat is the only thing that will make it detectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 The reason I think you would deplete your resources is because of the nuclear war. central Europe was the epicenter of the war. Those countries would be unable to produce enough food for their massive armies, and civilians. So either your army suffers of your people do. when civilians suffer revolutions start, and Germany the Netherlands and Prussia leave the war. leaving the CSSR Norsvea Nordheim and Molokia to face the full brunt of the resistance. Of those 4 the CSSR is the most formidable, but can the CSSR hold out against Slavorussia, who is only slightly less powerful, then you have Bosporan the Northern Empire Crimea Iso and maybe Altin Urda. Molokia would be overrun quickly in my opinion. Then I would expect Norsvea and Nordeim to either surrender or be invaded from the Baltic Sea. There was already a revolution in the Netherlands as a result of the war, which is why the old Empire is now the Union of Western Europe. You ask if the CSSR can hold against slavorussia? I rather think they can, since Triyun is 30,000 NS above you, and nearly twice your NS. We are not having invisible technology, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 At least not without lots and lots of research. You can't just enter an RP with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Isn't that article just about optical camoflauge which if used for say soldiers would only be useful when they arn't moving and would only really work up close. Plus weaving it into armour and clothing might be a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) At least not without lots and lots of research. You can't just enter an RP with it. EDIT: I found a map that shows where the defensive line is. Slavorussian/Ubersteinian boarder. Edited April 9, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Guys, are you being serious? Of course the plane is not going to be 100% invisible. However, the plane will be a slight shimmer amongst the 360 degrees of sky and at high speeds... This is technology that exists in 2009, my tech level indicates I should have around 2023 military technology. However, everything in my military is present day equipment ... except my aircraft. How is that unfair at all to RP? Noobs like to have fun too And if you read my factbook, you'll see the planes are vulnerable to nearly all other technologies, they are just extremely fast (used to be space exploration vehicles). In the story, the X-15's take the first casualty from a missile. The invisibility only really defends against close-up dogfights where the naked eye is the best tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Guys, are you being serious? Of course the plane is not going to be 100% invisible. However, the plane will be a slight shimmer amongst the 360 degrees of sky and at high speeds... This is technology that exists in 2009, my tech level indicates I should have around 2023 military technology. However, everything in my military is present day equipment ... except my aircraft. How is that unfair at all to RP? Noobs like to have fun too And if you read my factbook, you'll see the planes are vulnerable to nearly all other technologies, they are just extremely fast (used to be space exploration vehicles). In the story, the X-15's take the first casualty from a missile. The invisibility only really defends against close-up dogfights where the naked eye is the best tool. Mind you, the cloaking technology has had highly limited success and does not have any reliable military applications as of now - therefore, if you want to roleplay something that is currently not possible, you must explain it so to make your RP "legitimate" - else, anyone can simply claim it is unfeasible and they'd have the right of doing so. And given we're dealing with cloaking... eh... they'd be able to go on with their RP without having to recognize your planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 As it has been several days and Justinian has responded and used this time to bring in multiple reinforcements I will be responding, assuming he has not worked to counter my tactics. I am sympathetic to him getting hit by a lot of people, but he should not be refusing to respond to the stronger nations while facing the weakest, its god modding. You'll do no such thing. He still has to catch up. Perhaps if you'd warned him OOC-wise that he was going to be swarmed, you might not have had this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Mind you, the cloaking technology has had highly limited success and does not have any reliable military applications as of now - therefore, if you want to roleplay something that is currently not possible, you must explain it so to make your RP "legitimate" - else, anyone can simply claim it is unfeasible and they'd have the right of doing so. And given we're dealing with cloaking... eh... they'd be able to go on with their RP without having to recognize your planes. I thought he explained it rather well in the post right above yours. It only limits direct SIGHT. Edited April 9, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I thought he explained it rather well in the post right above yours. It only limits direct SIGHT. Doesn't matter - it's something still way beyond our times, and he can't just claim he has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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