Earogema Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I thought this would be an announcement to move off Brown. I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hopefully once GATO is sovereign again we can be apart of this. Good news for Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extraduty Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) OOC: Your IC name is extraduty. How is me alluding to that an OOC attack? My IC name is extraduty and its just a name, and you eluded to my RL thus its a OOC attack. Edit: Added quote for clarity Edited March 20, 2009 by extraduty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Wow, OOC attacks, I thought you could handle a little good nature'd ribbing. I guess I was wrong.I am impressed you knew what extra duty was though (btw I spent 45 days on it in Iraq for being in possession of alcohol, 1 and only time. also no halways for me I spent most of it playing Counterstrike. Are you serious? You can't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 My IC name is extraduty and its just a name, and you eluded to my RL thus its a OOC attack.Edit: Added quote for clarity Please please please please tell me you're joking. You are joking right? You can't possibly be serious. On topic, congratulations to these alliances for laying a foundation for sphere unity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxNation Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Congrats Ivan, NSO and CD... this is great, i'd love to see Brown rise again (not in my toilet though).... Hopefully GATO can recover and join you in this endeavor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kefka Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 This is a verbal warning to the entire thread that discussion of moderation issues, including accusations of forum rule breaking, belong in the Report Forum Abuse area, and not in this thread. Further such talk in this thread will be met with the Light of Judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 My IC name is extraduty and its just a name, and you eluded to my RL thus its a OOC attack.Edit: Added quote for clarity No, he took the urine out of your IC name and nothing more. If the esteemed leader of United Warren is so sensitive about such things then perhaps a new name is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The FSM Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Actually, it is meant to compliment the work already accomplished via the Amber Accords by so many in Brown. The Pact enforces the idea that we should all be working together towards mutual prosperity while stating clearly that member alliances should continue to work within the already existing treaties.The difference between this and AA is that AA provides for very minimal military assistance while one of the primary points of the Pact is to see the collective alliances supported in times of strategic duress. I do not doubt that your goal is greater sphere unity, and I find the creation of a Brown Sphere MDP bloc a commendable feat and something that I hope will create greater unity on the sphere. It is not the differences between AA and Terra Cotta that I am taking issue with, in fact it is the different natures of the two treaties that I support. Rather I question the need to include provisions for peacetime economic cooperation in a treaty that looks to support the signatories "in times of strategic duress." If that is the real goal then I question the need to include provisions for what looks like peacetime economic cooperation. AA provides for peacetime economic cooperation amongst the signatories already, but does not provide for much cooperation in times of war. I see AA as a fairly strictly peacetime economic treaty, while I see Terra Cotta as attempting to cover both areas. if Terra Cotta is not attempting to cover both areas then perhaps I am misreading the treaty, or perhaps it is ambiguouslyworded but either way I think it is something that the signatories may need to consider clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Light of Judgment. Whoa, that's a new forum trick I never knew about. Anyway, I just realize this is the first equal level treaty NSO has. NSO finally going to start launching the treaties? Edited March 20, 2009 by MegaAros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morte Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Congrats on this NSO and CD. Edited March 20, 2009 by Morte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I do not doubt that your goal is greater sphere unity, and I find the creation of a Brown Sphere MDP bloc a commendable feat and something that I hope will create greater unity on the sphere.It is not the differences between AA and Terra Cotta that I am taking issue with, in fact it is the different natures of the two treaties that I support. Rather I question the need to include provisions for peacetime economic cooperation in a treaty that looks to support the signatories "in times of strategic duress." If that is the real goal then I question the need to include provisions for what looks like peacetime economic cooperation. AA provides for peacetime economic cooperation amongst the signatories already, but does not provide for much cooperation in times of war. I see AA as a fairly strictly peacetime economic treaty, while I see Terra Cotta as attempting to cover both areas. if Terra Cotta is not attempting to cover both areas then perhaps I am misreading the treaty, or perhaps it is ambiguouslyworded but either way I think it is something that the signatories may need to consider clarifying. At present the NSO is not a signatory alliance of the AA. We may not ever be. We are however working towards economic cooperation with Carpe Diem and several other alliances in Brown, including GATO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Whoa, that's a new forum trick I never knew about. Anyway, I just realize this is the first equal level treaty NSO has. NSO finally going to start launching the treaties? No. Any treaty that we sign will first be non-cascading and second worth the paper it is printed on. Anyone can sign a dozen treaties with random alliances from all over the Cyberverse, that doesn't mean they are technically worth anything or that those signing them will keep to their word. Convenient sidestepping on treaty obligations is not something I care to engage in. We will not sign onto the major webs but we are not so arrogant to believe that we can stand completely alone forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Congratulations and good luck on this Brown endeavor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 This is kind of lame. I'm not going to be an !@#$%^& and say lolbrown (whoops), but why post it if you haven't made the effort to include most of the sphere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Glad to see this announced! I know this is a great step forward in bringing the brown team from obscurity into prosperity. Thank you to all who have offered support. To those who are of weak minds and capable of simply repeating tired memes, I'd like to politely ask what you instead spend your time improving your own color sphere instead of insulting our attempts to improve ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 No. Any treaty that we sign will first be non-cascading and second worth the paper it is printed on. Anyone can sign a dozen treaties with random alliances from all over the Cyberverse, that doesn't mean they are technically worth anything or that those signing them will keep to their word. Convenient sidestepping on treaty obligations is not something I care to engage in.We will not sign onto the major webs but we are not so arrogant to believe that we can stand completely alone forever. Respectable. Something all alliances should take to heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDragon911 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Congrats CD! Congrats NSO, I look forward to seeing more from you guys in the future... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Perry Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Good to see this. Hope Brown can grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 This is the SH*T!!! (You know, brown, poop, get it? If this offends anyone, I'll take it out ><) Nonetheless, very nice! -omfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Paul Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I've always liked Carpe Diem. Destructiox tends to know what he's doing. It must be all that weegee in his blood. Let's see how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Great to see this announced, truly a huge step towards the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbuck Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Congratulations to my friends in the New Sith Order, I am sure the brown sphere will flourish in your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildeKaard Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Ivan's all about win so gratz to this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reachwind Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Everything is proceeding as we have foreseen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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