Xiphosis Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I laughed pretty hard. I can safely say this is one treaty I would not fault anyone for blatantly violating to whip OBR's behind from here to the border. It just amuses me a lot that some guys in OBR actually thought if they conned a bunch of us into signing over our 'right to defend ourselves' on a piece of paper it'd actually mean jack when they attacked us. Are you joking? Lord, I wish I'd signed this now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) If I may be so bold, most honorable sir, to correct you humbly in your words. It is not OBR which should be welcomed, it should be the world in their new gained awareness that OBR was playing all along,... Good point Branimir. although methinks the world at large may not be so thrilled with their notice of said welcome. edit- although it is rather amusing to think they thought this meant jack !@#$ if they tried to pursue it. Edited February 28, 2009 by chefjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyne Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...20&start=20Read Syzygy's post. (#25) They were invited to write it, as well as joining from the beginning, but they showed no interest in doing so. A lot of things have become a lot clearer. It's possible that they later added parts, but initially, they wanted no part of it. Edited February 28, 2009 by Reyne Mordigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I await Knight Commander Neboe's response to this claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenrpg Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Awww not the OBR too.... Someone call me when we know who are the good guys and who are the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 although methinks the world at large may not be so thrilled with their notice of said welcome. Indeed I share your opinion, wise traveler of this realm. The shadow that has been cast shall forever forward be over the lands of the Dark Rose,.... edit- although it is rather amusing to think they thought this meant jack !@#$ if they tried to pursue it. Most intriguing of all, is this observation. It does create a smile on our faces, though. If I may be so bold to share my thoughts on the matter exposed. It is my humble belief that they just did it for the simple matter of their amusement for tricking the best and the brightest with their words play,...as I stand in disbelief that the wise knights of the Dark Rose ever believed their trickery would come to pass as written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incitatus Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Wow, thanks for bringing this to our attention Experimentum. I don't think I will ever be able to look at OBR the same way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I await Knight Commander Neboe's response to this claim. What "haha gotcha" that's the only response he could possibly have, the evidence is indisputable, those screens shots are from the round table and dated accordingly and I thought TOP had some PR problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Although it is rather amusing to think they thought this meant jack if they tried to pursue it. Writ De Credo was written for a different era in digiterra. A time when e-lawyering amused the digisapiens which inhabited these admin forsaken lands. And true to that this is also amusing. However true malice is absent in this document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Awww not the OBR too....Someone call me when we know who are the good guys and who are the bad. Does such exist in this world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 What "haha gotcha" that's the only response he could possibly have, the evidence is indisputable, those screens shots are from the round table and dated accordingly and I thought TOP had some PR problems. Don't get me wrong, I am extremely displeased reading this information. The fact that the ODN was one of the founding signatories of a treaty with such intent is most angering. What I meant was that I want to see how this is viewed by the current leadership of the OBR, as obviously this treaty was written over two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruthenia Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 So this treaty is, what, two years old? And how many times did that clause actually come into use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 In all seriousness... think they'd let me sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 This is amusing. Congrats to OBR for outwitting everybody, though I pity you if actually thought that this kind of wit would apply to an actual war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Writ De Credo was written for a different era in digiterra. A time when e-lawyering amused the digisapiens which inhabited these admin forsaken lands. And true to that this is also amusing. However true malice is absent in this document. Sir Blacky, you are a seasoned gentlemen of our common realm, which is our great world. If I may address you about the matter which you speak. I would like to point you to the name of this trickery, which is "Death Cookie". While we may expect a better phrased title to do honor to this elaborate plan, the name does though speak darkly about the intent of the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewistothezor Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think any future OBR treaties should be read very carefully in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Obama Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I guess all I can say is good thing my alliance never agreed to sign this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Sir Blacky, you are a seasoned gentlemen of our common realm, which is our great world. If I may address you about the matter which you speak. I would like to point you to the name of this trickery, which is "Death Cookie". While we may expect a better phrased title to do honor to this elaborate plan, the name does though speak darkly about the intent of the agenda. The intent? The intent seems to me to sit back and know that in a legal world, OBR just defeated every signatory alliance. I don't quite think them so inept as to believe their legal victory would translate to a war victory in this world. I'm willing to guess they'd be pretty content knowing they just outsmarted and outwitted a large portion of CN, and in a legal, scholarly world, they won. Death Cookie doesn't make this treaty dark or anything, just a manufactured type of symbolism which I'm guessing they made to add to the "mystique" and "aura" of OBR. Edited February 28, 2009 by Rafael Nadal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) What I meant was that I want to see how this is viewed by the current leadership of the OBR, as obviously this treaty was written over two years ago. Taken from the OP For reasons most assuredly obvious to all assembled here, the so-called “Death Cookie” has been a secret closely guarded by the OBR. Every Knight is aware of its existence as well as every OBR member who has worked in the Chamber of Diplomacy down to the Squire level. While such highly sensitive information would normally be privy to Her Highness and Knights only, it became necessary to inform Squires employed in Diplomacy of the hidden clause because of the possibility that they might encounter treaty conflicts while going about their duty of securing more Signatories to the Writ. It was important to us, you see, that when we snared an alliance there be no legal loophole through which they could wriggle. Call me goofy, something tells me there views are quite the same, Article 5 is still there, Neboe's has been The Knight Commander for 8 months plus, where they had ample time to rewrite Article 5. Instead they kept peddling the treaty. Edited February 28, 2009 by Freelancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incitatus Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I laughed pretty hard. I can safely say this is one treaty I would not fault anyone for blatantly violating to whip OBR's behind from here to the border.It just amuses me a lot that some guys in OBR actually thought if they conned a bunch of us into signing over our 'right to defend ourselves' on a piece of paper it'd actually mean jack when they attacked us. Are you joking? Lord, I wish I'd signed this now! You have to realize that this was made back when treaties were worth quite a bit and weren't handed out like candy at a parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 You have to realize that this was made back when treaties were worth quite a bit and weren't handed out like candy at a parade. I truly do, but this goes to the fundamental reason we started organizing into alliances to begin with - mutual defense. It's the one basic reason we have for existing. At no point in this game would an alliance have honored an agreement made unknowingly to stop being an alliance. Unless they were really, really terrible... in which case it'd be contractual natural selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Now the only conception shattering announcement left to be is the inevitable tell-all by Doitzel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I don't quite think them so inept as to believe their legal victory would translate to a war victory in this world. I'm willing to guess they'd be pretty content knowing they just outsmarted and outwitted a large portion of CN, and in a legal, scholarly world, they won. The kind inhabitant of the world known as Rafael Nadal, I am here left with nothing more then to agree with you. You have stated what my humble self have just a few posts back. Death Cookie doesn't make this treaty dark or anything, just a manufactured type of symbolism which I'm guessing they made to add to the "mystique" and "aura" of OBR. With the words you uttered here, my fellow digiterianinansrian, I must disagree in the most polite manner possible. The coined name didn't went much into the lengths to add a special value to the language, so common in the Dark Rose lands. The darkness and maliciousness, though, comes from the played respect and confidence which the Dark Rose held with the digiterianinansrian most brightest and wisest man. Sometimes, such a play of confidence is the most infernal of all,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Heh, folk at the retirement house of the CN have been busy making themselves entertained. I can dig that. Seeing how I didn't view the retirement house the same way most others did, I am not disappointed, I am rather amused by this. For once I agree with Branimir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 For once I agree with Branimir. It pleases my stone cold heart, the fact you have uttered this words. I am humbled by this and I shall be carrying the memory of this event for the ages to come. May we walk a path that is a friendlier one in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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