Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 SO I HERD U WANTED TO KNOW WHY TDSM8 IS GONE? Sup guys? Anyway, so since last night I have easily received more PMs and queries then any other time I have played this game asking me a simple question: Why did TDSM8 disband? We'll, I answered them cause I figured that they would stop coming in an hour or so, but it has become clear that I was wrong because I am still getting them out the $@!. I've heard conspiracy theories and all sorts of ridiculous anecdotes. Id like to clear up now that NPO in no way made us disband. In fact, NPO was the reason we were allowed to die in peace, the way we wanted to go. Moo let us off early for no reason other then he didnt want to ruin the game for us and I respect him for that. But, to stop the questions and queries, I figured Id make a thread just stating why exactly TDSM8 has, by group vote, chosen to disband and leave Planet Bob. So I guess here it goes: TDSM8 entered the last war expecting to never see peace. We had been told by our enemies and allies alike that MK would not get terms and in our minds, by proxy, neither would we. So we prepared our men, told no lies, and all of us prepared to go down with a sinking ship. We launched nukes, got wrecked, and stood together as we faced our assured demise. I mean, what better way for an alliance like ours to go out, launching missiles in the names of our friends with on last blaze of glory. But thats not quite what happened, in fact, its not what happened at all. MK did get terms and we, once again, got them by proxy. If I could go back now I would and just stopped that from happening, but I had no fore sight of what was to come. The simple face of the matter is TDSM8 should have died in that war, defending the one stake we had in this game: our honor. We have built this alliance on standing by our friends and we should have died doing so. So we continue on and we keep on trucking under the surrender terms we accepted from NPO. At first it went well, but then slowly and surely the excitement and unity that was established in the last war slowly dwindled into apathy and lethargic nothingness. Activity dwindled, we struggled to handle the reparations lacking any real active tech sellers, and we slowly lost our lower strength members to inactivity. Soon, our government also became inactive and I found myself being the only real member running the alliance. I literally did almost the entire job from handling reps with NPO to our entire Foreign Affairs department, I became the last remaining and active government member of TDSM8. While we were still dedicated to our members and our allies, and many of our members were still IRC active, the apathy was slowly dragging TDSM8 into oblivion. In short, TDSM8 was dying, still limping along from the last war from which we never planned, nor wanted, to survive. We simply never recovered from it and we never really came to terms with the fact that we had survived it. A lot of us just couldnt handle the fact that we had been prepared to quit and then had to struggle on without military, with indefinite terms, and with the inability to really handle the economic portion of our reparations. So what are we to do? We are an alliance that has always stood on its principles and never backed down, and here we are struggling to hand over tech deals, a simple task, and unable to protect our allies if they ever needed us. We were a hollow shell anymore hiding behind the personality cult that seemed to be forming behind me that was limping on wondering why we were even still playing. Not to mention, many of us felt that TDSM8 didnt have a place in the growing and new world. The last of our kind has been dying out for a while now and it felt like a beast like ours should never have to exist if it was going to have to do so living from surrender terms to surrender terms. We were just gonna become a caged animal, facing worse and worse terms with every loss. Simply put, we were done. We were done dealing with the madness and we were done being caged when all we ever enjoyed was our freedom. So, we decided to take the one step that we knew wed be able to take with a good conscience. We took the last thing that we had the power to take and we ended our existence on our terms. We ran the alliance on our terms, we lived in the alliance on our terms, and we seemed it was fit that we'd watch it go on our terms. Yeah, I'll miss that alliance and the members of it, and I honestly think its the greatest alliance I've ever been in, but our time to go was months ago and it just took us this long to realize that. Now, I know the above picture is bleak, but TDSM8 still accomplished a lot for an alliance that never broke 30 members and I think that should be remembered above all. We achieved powerful treaties, friendships, and even enemies in our time, and Id like to think inspired a new wave of what has been following through with treaties. I'd like to think we marked a turning point in what had been a decline in obligation, and for that, I'd like to be remembered. I hope that answered some of your questions, and for the last time I thank everyone for the support they gave to TDSM8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 thanks for telling us stumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 No no no, the NPO forced you to disband, and that's the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 No no no, the NPO forced you to disband, and that's the end of it. Oh sorry. Let me edit out all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Oh sorry. Let me edit out all of that. Thank you. It's better to just come right out with the truth, rather than making up ridiculous stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Nice to hear it straight from you. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huang Ti Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 We all know the real truth... Mano died for our sins and will rise again to reform TDSM8 this coming Easter :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 We all know the real truth... Mano died for our sins and will rise again to reform TDSM8 this coming Easter :lol: Now you are just giving me ideas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well written. Hopefully this earns you some peace and quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 you guys were amazing. no joke. there are few out there that could claim to be as honorable as you guys. Bob will miss you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Could it be that Emperor Revenge isn't the evil despot he's made out to be? Never! I refuse to believe that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'm sad that it ended how it ended but it had to. We really were all ready to go during that war, it was our time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondock Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 TDSM8 Started the trend of following treaties, and without doubt, was the most honorable alliance in the game. Loves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 This saddens me. I always thought you guys were among the, if not the most honorable alliance in the game. Best of luck. random question: Will we ever know what TDSM8 stands for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) RETRACTED. post was unnecessary. Edited February 20, 2009 by Count da Silva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'm looking forward to the Vox Populol version of the disbandment. Im looking forward to you stopping. This thread has nothing to do with Vox, or NPO really, so stop antagonizing and trying to bring them into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Read our disbandment thread, it's all through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwthegreat Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Interesting True as always Stumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Thanks for the explanation Stumpy. Hope to continue seeing you around these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementual Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I always liked TDSM8, and was really saddened to see them go. But after reading this, I can see why it was necessary. Good luck Stumpy, and to all the other members of TDSM8, I wish you luck wherever you choose to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Systemfailure Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 is it true that TDSM8 stands for " Till Death, Super Mates 8!"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 is it true that TDSM8 stands for " Till Death, Super Mates 8!"? I have never heard that before in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfEmpty Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I wish I hadn't read the OP. Too sad. Good luck and bring back the Bird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I wish you luck in whatever you decide to from here on out Stumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I think a lot of people feel this way and still grudgingly move along with the game. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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