Manetheren Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 OOC: This has been standard RP policy for a very long time. Also, HK47 and crew have already said that CNRP is in the hands of the GMs and the populace. Not theirs. Mercy has stated that the mods have said CNRP is in the hands of the GMs and the populace, rather than being controlled by the mods. If this is indeed the case, then the GMs should be elected by the people participating in CNRP, not appointed by the mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 stop whining. they're appointed for their neutrality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 They are appointed though and if the mods truly leave CNRP in the hands of the particpants they should be elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 They were appointed, and they are doing a great job. One gave up most of his nation to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I wouldn't mind having another person to help, though I don't appreciate the slight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyFallout Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 They were appointed, and they are doing a great job. One gave up most of his nation to do it. And I will give up more of it if I need to prove to you that I'm trying to be as un-flipping-biased as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRCatD Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) We can't trust the important task of choosing a GM to the populace. Picking the right GM is extremely important, and the common RPers cannot be trusted to choose the right GM. In contrast, Mods have almost no biases, and are better for the task of choosing GMs. Edited February 18, 2009 by XRCatD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?" As an Ubersteinian, I say "No." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRCatD Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"As an Ubersteinian, I say "No." It's why we have a supreme court, rather than the people, ruling on issues of constitutionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"As an Ubersteinian, I say "No." /me agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"As an Ubersteinian, I say "No." Another win for the thinking tank that is Baron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 My vote continues to go out to Botha, possibly the most neutral and unbiased person in RP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"As an Ubersteinian, I say "No." Democracy has its faults, yes, but it's one helluva lot better than any sort of dictatorship that anyone has going anywhere. The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship. Yeah, Bush screwed up, oh well, deal with it. Democracy is still better than dictatorship. I have to agree with Mudd. If there's not going to be anyone who can balance out the powers of the GMs, then we ought to at least be able to pick our own. And I agree with frost. Botha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have no problem on how things currently stand, the moderation has (and should have) the final say in who oversees CNRP. Ideally any GM of CNRP should have no vested interest in CNRP by way of a CNRP nation, but I would not be entirely opposed to a vote on the measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedran Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 My vote continues to go out to Botha, possibly the most neutral and unbiased person in RP You know, that would have been my first choice too but I don't think most people want to babysit a bunch of people who constantly disagree. I don't know how Sargun and Mercy do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 You know, that would have been my first choice too but I don't think most people want to babysit a bunch of people who constantly disagree.I don't know how Sargun and Mercy do it. Look up stoicism on wikipedia. It helps a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Democracy has its faults, yes, but it's one helluva lot better than any sort of dictatorship that anyone has going anywhere. The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship.Yeah, Bush screwed up, oh well, deal with it. Democracy is still better than dictatorship. I have to agree with Mudd. If there's not going to be anyone who can balance out the powers of the GMs, then we ought to at least be able to pick our own. And I agree with frost. Botha. And I disagree that democracy is better. I like my form of "Elitist Democracy", Where only the educated or those who do state service can vote. Democracy creates a mob rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 You know, that would have been my first choice too but I don't think most people want to babysit a bunch of people who constantly disagree. I really appreciate the comments of support from Lord Frost and Mergerberger II (thanks guys ) but Vedran pretty much sums it up for me. Besides I just don't have the time - certainly during the spring and summer months - to keep track of all the RP going on, I struggle this time of year just to maintain my own RP on a semi-regular basis let alone pay attention to much else that's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I picture a vote with less than ALL the active RPers names on it in the near future. I also picture that this future vote thread would be complete bull feces if it did not have every single active RPer on it. However then it would just be chicken feces since everyone would vote for themselves or friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I picture a vote with less than ALL the active RPers names on it in the near future. What I can see happening is the same thing we see with the Team Senates, where factions (i.e. different RP groups) lobby amongst themselves to get favourable candidates nominated and voted in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 By no means has the Moderation staff withdrawn, either wholly or incompletely, from the CRNP forum. What we have done is appoint from among the more well-reasoned Roleplayers people we can trust to be neutral, and represent the interests of the community while giving players a person to go to before they go appeal for a descision from Moderation, which is final and usually irreversible. Do not take this as a "We'll do whatever we like and find a suitable yes-man to fill the job". Those GM's were appointed precisely BECAUSE they could make the tough decisions, with fairness, and without being biased to any particular side. They have done well, and will continue to do well. There will be no elections for GM and no speculation on the status of Moderation. This is not a reflection of any opinion of mine on Botha or those put forward; it is merely the means in which they were brought to my attention. The GMs, at their discretion, will nominate a third GM should they feel needful, and then come to myself or HK for confirmation. Botha is a fine suggestion and I would have no problem with him being added to the GM group, provided it was through the channels already layed down and not through what seems to amount to a quiet revolt. Thank you, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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