Lord Valleo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Bottom line here is BaronUberstein aided an enemy of the NPO, which he has freely admitted to. All alliances consider such actions to be an act of aggression against the alliance. BaronUberstein has been targeted accordingly and as an enemy of the NPO he has been addressed appropriately. Of course those who are currently on the losing side (ie Vox, BC, et.) are never going to agree with our decisions or actions no matter what they are. So basically continuing to debate in this thread is a waste of time and energy and I am done with it. If BaronUberstein wishes to discuss further I can be queried or pm'd. With that I am out of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 As I stated, minor to you is not minor to others. Our definitions differ so let us leave it at that. Good day to you. Minor comes with reasoning. If someone offended Vox, I am damn sure you wouldn't just open up your arms and allow them to have tea and cake. Their is some just in this my friend. However, your word is correct pertaining to different views on what this means. Good day, looking forward to your interactions elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenzilla Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Minor comes with reasoning. If someone offended Vox, I am damn sure you wouldn't just open up your arms and allow them to have tea and cake. Their is some just in this my friend. However, your word is correct pertaining to different views on what this means. Good day, looking forward to your interactions elsewhere. Dude, Vox gets trolled all the time. We just let people put a foot in their own mouth for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Eden Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Reparation are agreed to all the time when circumstances permit such. However I doubt I will ever see the day Vox pays reps, so really funny you bring up that point. Did you even bother to ask him for reps before attacking? Judging by this thread - no. What does this have to do with Vox I do not know, he's wasn't in Vox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Minor comes with reasoning. If someone offended Vox, I am damn sure you wouldn't just open up your arms and allow them to have tea and cake. Their is some just in this my friend. However, your word is correct pertaining to different views on what this means. Good day, looking forward to your interactions elsewhere. You offend my "delicate sensibilities" immensely, yet I've remained polite to you for the most part. There is no reason for enemies to not remain civil. It's called honor and unfortunately it seems to be a concept lost upon many folks here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Minor comes with reasoning. If someone offended Vox, I am damn sure you wouldn't just open up your arms and allow them to have tea and cake. Their is some just in this my friend. Nobody has ever complained of mistreatment at my hands, or the hands of our Senate. Of course we very rarely have people engage us because that's grounds for perma-ZI, but we are the single most open-armed alliance in the game at the moment. Did you even bother to ask him for reps before attacking? Judging by this thread - no. What does this have to do with Vox I do not know, he's wasn't in Vox. Everything has to do with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agafaba Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Maybe someone should just tell him that once he gets to ZI he can leave as was said in this thread. He is ok with that, so all this issue needs now is a low NS nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 You offend my "delicate sensibilities" immensely, yet I've remained polite to you for the most part. There is no reason for enemies to not remain civil. It's called honor and unfortunately it seems to be a concept lost upon many folks here. I have remained polite my friend, I believe in civility, however I honestly believe DM's comments were barely offensive at all, however as we accomplished together, our sensibilities are different, though I am a huge advocate of civility and respect, however your past with the conflicting parties could and probably has a bigger impact concerning their words much more than it does to me, which is also understandable due to your beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikaru Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Not that I have an account on NPO Forums or anything, but given the amount of enemies and people on their ZI list that I'm sure they have, you'd think they'd have a thread on their own forums for people to appeal ZI's and such after a certain period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) I don't want to join Vox. I have to real issue with the NPO besides the fact that they don't reply to my messages. Well, now you know NPO are a bunch of !@#$%^&. Why beg? Have some pride. Grow a pair of balls and fight them. Alternatively, I might be able to organise you some aidz, that way you can do more damage to them on the way to ZI. Edited February 16, 2009 by Darth Revan mod edit: removed image - Revan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hey NPO, I got a suggestion. To reduce difficulties with people appealing ZI status because they aided you enemies, how about you get less enemies? It is not NPO's responsibility to avoid making enemies; it is your duty to avoid being an enemy of the Order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 It is not NPO's responsibility to avoid making enemies; it is your duty to avoid being an enemy of the Order. You know.....I'm liking you more and more everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyrie9002 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 It is not NPO's responsibility to avoid making enemies; it is your duty to avoid being an enemy of the Order. Ah, I see! Everything makes sense now! I exist solely to serve NPO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ah, I see! Everything makes sense now! I exist solely to serve NPO! No. Your duty is to your nation, to be an open enemy of the NPO is to be failing as a national leader. To be an enemy of the Order is to be inherently wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 You know.....I'm liking you more and more everyday. I wub u too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Eden Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Ah, I see! Everything makes sense now! I exist solely to serve NPO! He is liking the attention he's getting, that's why he's still at it. No sane person can actually believe the stuff he says. Edited February 16, 2009 by West of Eden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 It is not NPO's responsibility to avoid making enemies; it is your duty to avoid being an enemy of the Order. As crazy as that might sound to some people, I'd say that's sound advice. In the same way that one does not annoy a lion, one should also avoid becoming the enemy of a strong power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 No. Your duty is to your nation, to be an open enemy of the NPO is to be failing as a national leader. To be an enemy of the Order is to be inherently wrong. drinking a bit much of the kool aid are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 drinking a bit much of the kool aid are we? It's delicious. You should have had some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 drinking a bit much of the kool aid are we? My kool aid at least isn't laced with idealistic nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) No. Your duty is to your nation, to be an open enemy of the NPO is to be failing as a national leader. To be an enemy of the Order is to be inherently wrong. To give away your freedom of speech, sovereignty and to bow down and kiss the $@! of the tyranny of the NPO is to fail as a leader. Also, U-FAIL hereby declares war upon Count Da Silva for spreading lies and propaganda and for being a general !@#$%. Edited February 16, 2009 by Bazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) My kool aid at least isn't laced with idealistic nonsense. you just seem to be sucking up an awful lot, I dont mind NPO, but groveling in front of them wont make them respect you. It's delicious. You should have had some. even when I was a Pacifican I still maintained my independent thought, which most NPO members seemed to do as well, Silva isnt even in NPO and seems to be walking the party line better than alot of NPO members, which leads me to believe he has a reason for kissing $@!. Edited February 16, 2009 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyria Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 As crazy as that might sound to some people, I'd say that's sound advice. In the same way that one does not annoy a lion, one should also avoid becoming the enemy of a strong power. The advice of not ticking off NPO is probably sound. Saying that to anger the Order is to be wrong, however, is just as foolish in its own right. My kool aid at least isn't laced with idealistic nonsense. I'd say that your preaching that the Order exists as a shining beacon of correctness is just as stupid and idealistic as anyone you've been criticizing lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenzilla Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 you just seem to be sucking up an awful lot, I dont mind NPO, but groveling in front of them wont make them respect you. It makes Corian respect you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) The advice of not ticking off NPO is probably sound. Saying that to anger the Order is to be wrong, however, is just as foolish in its own right.I'd say that your preaching that the Order exists as a shining beacon of correctness is just as stupid and idealistic as anyone you've been criticizing lately. thank you for expressing my ideas in a better way. It makes Corian respect you. Perhaps it will make Corinan respect him, but I doubt it will make anything with any bit of power respect him. Edited February 16, 2009 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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