TrotskysRevenge Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 It was 1 aid to my friend on Christmas, hardly "Repeatedly aiding". You sent aid on these dates: 12/17, 12/28, 2/06. Three times = repeatedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 INORITE? But seriously. Uberstein, come over to Vox's forums. You might like what you see. Now, I'm sure this guy got the idea when you tried to recruit him the first time. If somehow, that didn't get through number two should have. Do you really need to try for a third time? Are you going to continue to try and recruit him throughout this entire thread, when he has clearly stated he isn't interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) You sent aid on these dates: 12/17, 12/28, 2/06. Three times = repeatedly. I remember sending aid to Martens once when he was ZI, once when he wasn't. He said he wasn't ZI anymore when I sent on 6. What is the 3rd one? Unless that was to Proxia, but I believe he was on a different ZI list..or was he on both? Edited February 16, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Valleo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 It was 1 aid to my friend on Christmas, hardly "Repeatedly aiding". Hmmmm, amazing how this always seems to happen where one wants to be released from ZI and yet they start lying about the facts. First you were just targeted for aiding an enemy target of the NPO. If this was a one time thing then you would have served a sentence and then released from targeting. However you aided our enemy at least three times and this does qualify as "Repeatedly aiding" and has earned you special place on our Perma ZI list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Now, I'm sure this guy got the idea when you tried to recruit him the first time. If somehow, that didn't get through number two should have. Do you really need to try for a third time? Are you going to continue to try and recruit him throughout this entire thread, when he has clearly stated he isn't interested? He's already upgraded from no to maybe in a PM. Maybe the 3rd will clench it, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMistress Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) You are doing a great job of making Vox look attractive. Oh I totally understand if you lost the humor in my response. If you think I make Vox look more attractive then so be it. This guy is on our ZI list for aiding Kaiser Martens not once, not twice, but three times. All of this was before Kaiser Martens was freed. I was merely stating that he has an issue with us that obviously made him a ZI target. Also, @Northrend, seriously, you guys are having fun and by all means, I think Uberstein should join you and have fun too. Edited February 16, 2009 by DarkMistress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Hmmmm, amazing how this always seems to happen where one wants to be released from ZI and yet they start lying about the facts.First you were just targeted for aiding an enemy target of the NPO. If this was a one time thing then you would have served a sentence and then released from targeting. However you aided our enemy at least three times and this does qualify as "Repeatedly aiding" and has earned you special place on our Perma ZI list. And I have not lied, I explained in my post above yours. My memory isn't the best, is there a screenshot of the one I don't remember? The "maybe" to joining Vox is the same "maybe" your mom says when you ask for the Super-Game Station 9000 but then get a C in your "best" class. Edited February 16, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I was merely stating that he has an issue with us that obviously made him a ZI target. Your logic fails you. He has apparently no issue with you. Aiding KM, his friend, is what got him in PZI. You apparently have an issue with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrotskysRevenge Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Your logic fails you. He has apparently no issue with you. Aiding KM, his friend, is what got him in PZI. You apparently have an issue with him. He is not PZI or any variation thereof; he is only ZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) You are doing a great job of making Vox look attractive. Honestly mate, DM makes anything look attractive. All I am saying is..if she worked at Dunkin Donuts I would hope to make munchkins with her. On that note, aiding enemies is a no no. Edited February 16, 2009 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Valleo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 And I have not lied, I explained in my post above yours.My memory isn't the best, is there a screenshot of the one I don't remember? The "maybe" to joining Vox is the same "maybe" your mom says when you ask for the Super-Game Station 9000 but then get a C in your "best" class. oh how nice, we are actually going for the "I don't recall" aka "I didn't inhale" type defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 He is not PZI or any variation thereof; he is only ZI. Looks like PZI to me. Especially since the "target" has already hit ZI and the members of your alliance are still after him. Guess you didn't get the memo. What are said issues? I was once told I was a target and not ZI, somehow I went from target to perma-zi. Well if they want to ZI me, they can, got an open war slot and 200 infra. Though I did get to ZI already, but I doubt they care about that fine detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 oh how nice, we are actually going for the "I don't recall" aka "I didn't inhale" type defense Do people actually lie so much that when someone honest comes along you don't believe them? I am telling the complete truth, I only recall 2. The 3 million at the start, then I send 90k when I thought he was free, on the 6th. Martens told me he was off the ZI list, other people told me such, so I thought "Oh cool, i'll send him some stuff because he's off now." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyrie9002 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hey NPO, I got a suggestion. To reduce difficulties with people appealing ZI status because they aided you enemies, how about you get less enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 2008-12-17 21:53:40 you sent $3000000 50 tech 2008-12-28 23:44:50 you sent $256000 50 tech 2009-02-06 22:31:48 you sent $90621 50 tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Hey NPO, I got a suggestion. To reduce difficulties with people appealing ZI status because they aided you enemies, how about you get less enemies? Then we need to tell people to stop their stupidity. NPO is a mainstream alliance my friend, they have adversaries left and right merely because of their status. Everything is publicity, if they have an enemy, they have a reason. If someone aided an enemy of ours, we wouldn't be so friendly either. Especially consecutively. Edited February 16, 2009 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hey NPO, I got a suggestion. To reduce difficulties with people appealing ZI status because they aided you enemies, how about you get less enemies? I like this idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hire Slayer99. He'll argue your case free of charge and then make you post three threads about his superb services, thanking him.Or, join Vox Populi. I'd have to agree with this. Slayer99 is like the Phoenix Wright of Cybernations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Then we need to tell people to stop their stupidity. NPO is a mainstream alliance my friend, they have adversaries left and right merely because of their status. Everything is publicity, if they have an enemy, they have a reason. If someone aided an enemy of ours, we wouldn't be so friendly either.Especially consecutively. Actually it's because of how they act, like in this thread. There is a right and wrong way to act. Acting like a rude individual simply because you have more digits in your alliance than another group of people only lasts so long as those digits last. If you are polite and respectful in all your dealings, and play the game above reproach you will have garnered for yourself far greater amounts of respect than sheer force of might alone could ever grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) 2008-12-17 21:53:40 you sent $3000000 50 tech 2008-12-28 23:44:50 you sent $256000 50 tech 2009-02-06 22:31:48 you sent $90621 50 tech Okay, I still don't remember the 2nd one but I'll take your word for it. The 3rd one I remember sending to him when he was off ZI list. Talked to Martens: [22:01] Baron_Überstein: you remember this?[22:01] Baron_Überstein: 2008-12-28 23:44:50 you sent $256000 50 tech [22:02] *** Lavo has left the conversation. [22:02] Kaiser Martens: hmm [22:02] Kaiser Martens: Perhaps [22:02] Kaiser Martens: i think so [22:02] Kaiser Martens: not 100% sure [22:02] Kaiser Martens: but may be Now I have to catch a plane tomorrow, so goodnight. Edited February 16, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) The one you don't remember you actually submitted twice. Once on 2008-12-27 02:24:02 $225000 50 tech and then it got either canceled or denied by KM and you resubmitted on 2008-12-28 23:44:50 you sent $256000 50 tech Edited February 16, 2009 by Bilrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Valleo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hey NPO, I got a suggestion. To reduce difficulties with people appealing ZI status because they aided you enemies, how about you get less enemies? I'll make sure this one makes it to the suggestion box \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Eden Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Doesn't NPO know how to ask for reparations? In my time, they at least bothered to do that before attacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) edit: disregard, he left Edited February 16, 2009 by King Death II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Actually it's because of how they act, like in this thread. There is a right and wrong way to act. Acting like a rude individual simply because you have more digits in your alliance than another group of people only lasts so long as those digits last. If you are polite and respectful in all your dealings, and play the game above reproach you will have garnered for yourself far greater amounts of respect than sheer force of might alone could ever grant. You're preaching to the former MoFA of Grämlins mate, trust me, I know what respect and civility is. I live by civility and respect, just ask Mr. Doitzel, he hates me for it. Nonetheless mate, NPO has the right to be pissed if someone aided an enemy consecutive times. Honestly, they haven't been that rude, you should have seen GWII era. Trust me, I am not saying NPO is perfect, but your justification is pure anti-NPO and completely biased mate. In this thread alone, where has NPO been lucratively rude? All biased free, they haven't been asses in THIS thread, which I am focusing on. Edited February 16, 2009 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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