Schad Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 BN has a treaty with [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=85205]Asgaard[/url]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) iFOK is on top of the world. Oh and iFOK-Fark MDoAP: MDoAP with Fark; total NS 16.6M, tension 407 (128 per M NS) this one does not exist anymore either. Edited May 12, 2011 by kriekfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 The Chestnut Accords: MDP bloc with CSN, CRAP, GOD, TTK, Brain; total NS 20.2M, tension 196 (38 per M NS) The Brain left this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochers Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Okay, all the treaties mentioned up to here have been fixed on the wiki page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Thanks Kochers, I was about to make a comment along the lines of 'fix it on the wiki page'. Although it does make me wonder if I lost some data somewhere because I'm sure I had updated some of them before (SF, at least). Edit: updated the compendium in the OP with those changes. Edited May 12, 2011 by Bob Janova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochers Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1305223000' post='2710741'] Thanks Kochers, I was about to make a comment along the lines of 'fix it on the wiki page'. Although it does make me wonder if I lost some data somewhere because I'm sure I had updated some of them before (SF, at least). Edit: updated the compendium in the OP with those changes. [/quote] Yeah I think you did lose some data. I've found some treaties that we cancelled a long time ago in your data. Looks like it may be 8-12 months behind the times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1233425246' post='1233428'] [b]39) Fellowship Of Elite Allied Republics[/b] Colour: White NS: 3.0M; Score: 11.98 [i]Blood for Friends[/i]: MADP bloc with Europa, WP; [size=1]total NS 6.8M, tension 74 (24 per M NS)[/size] [i][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/?showtopic=50997]The New Fearless Pact[/url][/i]: MDoAP with NEW; [size=1]total NS 8.0M, tension 184 (61 per M NS)[/size] [i][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/?showtopic=62127]The Fellowship of Light Pact[/url][/i]: MDoAP with TOOL; [size=1]total NS 6.4M, tension 127 (42 per M NS)[/size] [i]WP-FEAR MDoAP[/i]: MDoAP with WP; [size=1]total NS 5.1M, tension 39 (13 per M NS)[/size] [i]Hydra-FEAR MDoAP[/i]: MDoAP with Hydra; [size=1]total NS 4.6M, tension 64 (21 per M NS)[/size] [i][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/?showtopic=54207]The FEAR in the heart of NATO[/url][/i]: PIAT with NATO; [size=1]total NS 6.8M, tension 75 (25 per M NS)[/size] [i]FEAR-GDA PIAT[/i]: PIAT with GDA; [size=1]total NS 6.0M, tension 59 (19 per M NS)[/size] [i]FEAR-IRON ToA[/i]: ToA with IRON; [size=1]total NS 13.5M, tension 100 (33 per M NS)[/size] [size=1][i]Total tension: 722 (241 per M NS)[/i][/size] [/quote] Missing our MDoAP with TORN (which we've had for years), we've never had a separate treaty with Hydra outside of when we were in Iron Curtain together, the NATO treaty was canceled, and our Wolfpack treaty is a MADP/DMT basically identical to our separate one we've got with Europa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yeah this system would work so great if each alliance just edited their own treaties and let Bob know in this thread that their entry was updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 [quote name='JoshuaR' timestamp='1305267801' post='2711226'] Yeah this system would work so great if each alliance just edited their own treaties and let Bob know in this thread that their entry was updated. [/quote] Alliances are lazy enough about updating their [i]own[/i] wiki pages, I highly doubt we could ever get people to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochers Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Think we could get an update anytime soon Bob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochers Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Okay gents, here's an update for ya. Pictures from several different angles: [IMG]http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr81/Kochers08/MDPWeb%202011/Remnants.png[/IMG] From this view, it seems that BLEU 2.0 (and really all major blue alliances) have combined to make a sizable portion of the Remnants side of the web. [IMG]http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr81/Kochers08/MDPWeb%202011/Overall.png[/IMG] This view gives a good overview of the entire web, and it shows that while the Remnants side remains pretty horizontal, the SuperPandoraGreivances-DoomMjolnirX side its much more vertically inclined (if that really means anything at all). [IMG]http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr81/Kochers08/MDPWeb%202011/Mid-view.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr81/Kochers08/MDPWeb%202011/CloseupGeneral.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr81/Kochers08/MDPWeb%202011/BlocView.png[/IMG] This final view really shows you all the major blocs, with SF and XX at the top, PB/DH going down, followed by CnG off to the right, and then TOP/IRON way off to the left, with AZTEC below followed by the rest of the Remnants. We had several alliances drop off the web this update, losing iFOK, Athens and =LOST= (no surprise), as well as RotR, Carpe Diem, THL, and TCU (rebranding as DnD). You can get the latest data for your own MDP web at http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Bob_Janova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) A temporary update which has an updated NS list and most of the new treaties, but not treaties for the new alliances onto the web and I might have missed some things. [img]http://www.redcorona.com/cn/mdpweb/web20110814-labelled.png[/img] We have clearly separated power spheres again ... unfortunately it's quite difficult to get a good image but PF is also quite separate from the others. Things may be beginning to crystallise for the next war, though it is still some way off. Mjolnir appear to be the most isolated by treaty logic alone (though yes I do realise that is not everything, please don't rush in to tell me!). Please check your treaties in the OP. Edited August 14, 2011 by Bob Janova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 GOD-Legacy MDP needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I don't see Duckroll reflected in IRON's treaties. Only thing I've noticed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1313288197' post='2780227'] I don't see Duckroll reflected in IRON's treaties. Only thing I've noticed though. [/quote] i agree, the lack of ducks rolling is disturbing. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif[/img] and iron now has a odp with r&r, we also have treaties with Umbrella and NG so we should be somewhere closer to the middle and not half in XX, due to our ties with GLOF, Val,, and who ever else is buried back there [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] thanks Edited August 14, 2011 by Sylar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1313280150' post='2780101'] A temporary update which has an updated NS list and most of the new treaties, but not treaties for the new alliances onto the web and I might have missed some things. [img]http://www.redcorona.com/cn/mdpweb/web20110814-labelled.png[/img] We have clearly separated power spheres again ... unfortunately it's quite difficult to get a good image but PF is also quite separate from the others. Things may be beginning to crystallise for the next war, though it is still some way off. Mjolnir appear to be the most isolated by treaty logic alone (though yes I do realise that is not everything, please don't rush in to tell me!). Please check your treaties in the OP. [/quote] Cool update. Since everyone thinks this is an exciting time with sides itching for war, it's interesting to see how each bloc is separating. Of course, the other interesting thing to note is which of the four blocs is on the edge of the web, and how the other three blocs almost look as if they have it surrounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyriq Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 PF is pulling XX strings from the shadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1313288197' post='2780227'] I don't see Duckroll reflected in IRON's treaties. Only thing I've noticed though. [/quote] Duckroll were very clear in their announcement thread that 'it's not a bloc' so I've never included it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1313320212' post='2780483'] Duckroll were very clear in their announcement thread that 'it's not a bloc' so I've never included it on here. [/quote] So was Doomhouse Edited August 14, 2011 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 That wiki is confusing me to add our treaties. As I don't want to mess it up I'll just add here what's missing from Non Grata. ODP with TLR is upgraded to an MDP. ODP with IRON is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Legacy has ODP's with DT, NoR, as well as an ODoAP with wF (downgraded from a MDoAP). Their treaties with CSN, GOD are canceled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Cyvole Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 So I was playing around with the 3D treaty web program (Which is supremely cool, by the way) and I wondered what the web would look like if we consolidated the members of blocs into one single circle representing their bloc. All treaties and minor* blocs that had mutual defence obligations in which members participated I transferred to be treaties for the entire bloc. A terrible misrepresentation of how things work but necessary for the purposes of creating the blocs as entitities. I left any non-bloc members in the web, except for the neutral menace and non-treatied alliances (e.g. DNA, Creole, etc). And here's a picture of what I got. I tried to put the focus on the blocs, which, except for BFF, were all very near one another. http://i51.tinypic.com/pc0wj.png Sort of interesting, from my not-so-expert eye to see the love triangle of sorts between PB, MJ, and XX. After looking over that for a while, I thought to just eliminate everything but the blocs and their treaties. And here's what I came up with for a picture. BFF's utterly unconnected, far off-screen. http://i54.tinypic.com/30hwniv.png Just thought I'd share my little folly with the rest of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 That can't be correct because PB is heavily tied to CnG. GOONS and NG are tied to TLR ODN tied to Umbrella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShouAS Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='Lord Cyvole' timestamp='1314258509' post='2788056'] Sort of interesting, from my not-so-expert eye to see the love triangle of sorts between PB, MJ, and XX. After looking over that for a while, I thought to just eliminate everything but the blocs and their treaties. And here's what I came up with for a picture. BFF's utterly unconnected, far off-screen. [/quote] Europa has MDoAPs with both Invicta and GOONS, and FEAR has an MDoAP with TORN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Cyvole Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1314266431' post='2788076'] That can't be correct because PB is heavily tied to CnG. GOONS and NG are tied to TLR ODN tied to Umbrella [/quote] Oh the blunders of work at three in the morning. Do forgive me. New pic: http://i55.tinypic.com/rvx2me.png [quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1314353626' post='2788695'] Europa has MDoAPs with both Invicta and GOONS, and FEAR has an MDoAP with TORN. [/quote] The GOONS-Europa MDoAP is an ODP in the treaty compendium, thus it didn't show up since I only wanted treaties that were obligatory. The other two alliances are not top 80, thus not on the alliance list, thus not in the web. But just for you I added them in. And because they linked quite a few other people together. It's all reflected in the new pic. Also, just noticed this interesting circle (as in geometric shape) with the new additions when zoomed out. The division between the alliances of that circle and the rest of the web is pretty clear but I added a big fat red line just to make it more so. http://i55.tinypic.com/s3oqqp.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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