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You didn't have a choice... you guys were in a CATCH 22. Regardless of what you do it wouldn't work. You couldn't escalate the issue because it would have brought war, but if you didn't back WAPA up then you guys would look really bad and still end in a war. So that said, again the answer is you couldn't have done anything that would have work because the situation was a no win situation.

This is the only part that i can agree with what you said, and after all considerations...I made my decisions based on the facts which were posted in my topic.

Thia it is very funny that now after YOUR judgment reborn that you some how realize you don't have a treaty with us.

You Knew that we had no official treaty signed this round, and your taking over as leader has nothing to do with the fact

that our treaty didn't exisit on paper. Now you suddenly decided that you screwed up with your post and looked bad in public,

so this ADUIT just happens to of been done, yeah very hournable -_-

* GDA entering the war - After WAPA made those surrender comments, GDA decided to enter the war. GDA was also unofficially treatied with TPF but NOT with WAPA. GDA in no way attacked TPF. BG did communicate to GDA but did so when GDA was getting involved. The communication should have taken place earlier.

WRONG I WENT TO GDA THE NIGHT WAPA ATTACKED, AS I SAID IN MY POST!!!!! DAYS BEFORE GDA GOT INVOLVED. YOU KNOW THIS AS BEFORE

GDA GOT INVOLVED THEY CAME TO YOU FOR BACK UP.

FAQ for everyone:

1. Is MHA and Judgment going to war with TPF? Yes

2. Why? Because I don't appreciate the actions of TPF in the way she handled this situation. Because I already drew the line for when this was supposed to be resolved and that deadline passed. Because a war is what people want.

LOL!!!! Is MHA and JUDGMENT going to war with TPF? YES....MHA ARE TO SCARED TO TAKE US ON BY THEM SELFS, they need 4 other AA's for help, and yes i'm calling you a coward!

WHY? Because you don't like the fact that i confronted you, and turned down you future stab in the backs offer, because you don't like the fact that i exposed your

betrayel and told the public of your true intensions. Its not up to you to draw a line and besides that via your own post you admitted that peace was already done,

this is just another excuse for you to try and cover up your plot. Little Thai is scared to loose the precious #1 AA spot and willing to throw your friendship away

to stop it.

WARNING TO ANY AA THAT THINKS MHA IS YOUR FRIEND; They are not and are going to stab you in the back if you threaten to take away their spot or disagree

with how they say you should handle your AA and or its direction, or your post.

*BG looks at the growning list of AA's stabbed in the back by Thai....MI, TPF....WHO's next?

Here's to friends;

Session Start: Mon Jan 05 01:46:43 2009

Session Ident: thaisport

[01:46] Session Ident: thaisport (Coldfront, BurningGlory[TPF]) (thaisport@coldfront-BB1977C2.dslextreme.com)

[01:46] <thaisport> hey I owe you thanks

01[01:48] <BurningGlory[TPF]> your welcome

01[01:48] <BurningGlory[TPF]> and for what,lol

[01:48] <thaisport> Pork Shrimp

[01:49] <thaisport> helping them see the broader picture

01[01:49] <BurningGlory[TPF]> did they send you the message i told them?

[01:49] <thaisport> not the message but he told me about it

01[01:49] <BurningGlory[TPF]> k

[01:49] <thaisport> i know where they are coming from

[01:49] <thaisport> and understand their side

01[01:49] <BurningGlory[TPF]> me too

01[01:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> but i also told them this was still unfair

01[01:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> as MHA is not he MHA of early last round

[01:50] <thaisport> yeah....

[01:50] <thaisport> that's cuz I wasn't dictator yet :P

01[01:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> lol

01[01:51] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well i told him i would not abandon you guys

01[01:51] <BurningGlory[TPF]> that TPF and MHA were very very close friends

06[01:51] * thaisport looks for that he owes you... lol

01[01:52] <BurningGlory[TPF]> this friendship started last round i'm sure you heard

01[01:52] <BurningGlory[TPF]> no thats what friends are for

01[01:52] <BurningGlory[TPF]> your very welcome

[01:52] <thaisport> yep

01[01:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> you guys will never fight a war with out TPF beside you

[01:53] <thaisport> lol

01[01:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> and i feel the same from you guys

[01:53] <thaisport> :D that's what friends do :)

01[01:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> lol, yep

[01:54] <thaisport> just don't get us in trouble or I will help you first and personally smack you around after....

[01:54] <thaisport> :P

[01:55] <thaisport> that's what big brothers do to little brothers

01[01:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> hopefully things will calm down between you guys and you can put this behind you

01[01:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> lol

[01:55] <thaisport> it will

[01:55] <thaisport> i have no doubt

Session Close: Mon Jan 05 03:07:07 2009

AND AS TO YOUR REASON YOU ARE ATTACKING TPF, IS A LIE!!!!

01[15:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i'm honestly tired of all of it

01[15:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i don't really care anymore

01[15:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i can't protect my AA

01[15:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> with out

[15:15] <thaisport> yes you can

01[15:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> !@#$%^&*

01[15:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> so

01[15:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i'm going to make changes

[15:16] <thaisport> well if you expect me to attack you have nothing thing coming

[15:16] <thaisport> I know you are pulling out of the confusion with GDA

[15:16] <thaisport> and that was all I was looking for

01[15:17] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well you have your wish

[15:17] <thaisport> i have no reason then and no reason now to declare war on TPF

[15:17] <thaisport> this is the only issue I have with TPF

[15:17] <thaisport> because it hits close to home

01[15:17] <BurningGlory[TPF]> huh

[15:17] <thaisport> when MHA and allies with MI

[15:18] <thaisport> and MI wanted us to go in on RE first

[15:18] <thaisport> MHA refused to be lapdogs

[15:18] <thaisport> and i feel WAPA TPF issue is very similar to that

[15:18] <thaisport> even if the motives were different

[15:18] <thaisport> but it is not how I play

01[15:18] <BurningGlory[TPF]> no it wasn't

01[15:18] <BurningGlory[TPF]> we were plotted against

[15:18] <thaisport> and this is why I have a disagreement with how it was handled

01[15:19] <BurningGlory[TPF]> no it wasn't

01[15:19] <BurningGlory[TPF]> <BurningGlory[TPF]> we were plotted against

[15:19] <thaisport> I understand that

JUST ADMIT IT THAI, YOU DON'T LIKE THAT I STOOD UP TO THE MIGHTY MHA AND CANCELED OUR TREATY!!!

BUT YOU TRIED SO HARD TO TO RECOVER YOUR BACK STABBING......

Session Start: Wed Jan 28 15:48:12 2009

Session Ident: thaisport

[15:48] Session Ident: thaisport (Coldfront, BurningGlory[TPF]) (thaisport@coldfront-BB1977C2.dslextreme.com)

[15:48] <thaisport> maybe one day you will see that I'm not lying but it will not be today

[15:49] <thaisport> so today I will choose to respectfully disagree with you nothing more nothing less

01[15:49] <BurningGlory[TPF]> dosent matter really anyway thai, your actions of choosing one friend over another one

01[15:49] <BurningGlory[TPF]> when you should of stayed out of it

01[15:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> like TPF did

01[15:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> so its not about a disagreement

01[15:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i don't ever expect you to agree

01[15:50] <BurningGlory[TPF]> with me

01[15:51] <BurningGlory[TPF]> just not fight me

Session Close: Wed Jan 28 15:51:09 2009

Session Start: Wed Jan 28 15:51:42 2009

Session Ident: thaisport

[15:51] Session Ident: thaisport (Coldfront, BurningGlory[TPF]) (thaisport@coldfront-BB1977C2.dslextreme.com)

[15:51] <thaisport> well

[15:51] <thaisport> I know i haven't mentioned it

[15:52] <thaisport> but sources say that you and un might merger just to take the #1 spot

[15:52] <thaisport> then declare war on MHA

[15:52] <thaisport> using the excuse that no treaty was ever signed

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> really

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> thats funny

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> UN

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> lol

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yeap

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> its true

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> our army of

[15:54] <thaisport> so you see i take stuff like this with a grain of salt

[15:54] <thaisport> maybe you should think twice about your sources as well

01[15:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> noobs and infra strength of 600

01[15:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> going to take down you

01[15:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> had you maybe said

[15:55] <thaisport> do the math

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> MI or UW or AZTEC even

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> that wouldn't be so funny

[15:55] <thaisport> being cynical here... un is all lower strength nations

[15:55] <thaisport> tpf has high end strength

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yep lower than 1500

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> useless

[15:56] <thaisport> together at least equal of MHA

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> unless fighting RE

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> no

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> not even close

[15:56] <thaisport> but it would propel you into #1

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> so

[15:56] <thaisport> so that is my point

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> what does that have to do with war

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well its not true

[15:57] <thaisport> you are believe several sources 4-5 who could very well be working together on this

01[15:57] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i wouldn't of excepted that

01[15:57] <BurningGlory[TPF]> your actions

01[15:57] <BurningGlory[TPF]> follow the source\

[15:57] <thaisport> I am almost curious to see what would happen if we signed a MADP for this round

01[15:57] <BurningGlory[TPF]> you threatened us

[15:57] <thaisport> and formally announce it

[15:58] <thaisport> it bet they would be pissed

[15:58] <thaisport> lol

01[15:58] <BurningGlory[TPF]> we didn't need one

[15:58] <thaisport> i know they would be pissed

[15:58] <thaisport> lol

01[15:58] <BurningGlory[TPF]> it was by word of mouth

01[15:58] <BurningGlory[TPF]> from last round

[15:58] <thaisport> if you want to test this theory with me

[15:59] <thaisport> and end this with a bang

[15:59] <thaisport> because chances are something else will pop up

[15:59] <thaisport> i know they will be pissed because they are losing control

[16:00] <thaisport> we don't need to be friend next round but i know i'm on to something here

[16:01] <thaisport> you don't need to believe me

[16:01] <thaisport> but I know it will shake the very foundation of CNte

[16:03] <thaisport> what do you say... putting everying aside

[16:03] <thaisport> common cause

[16:03] <thaisport> we can debate what happen recenty later

01[16:04] <BurningGlory[TPF]> no i don't, i know other things are on the board....people are pissed right now that NAAW can do this and have back up, and i'm not just talking about TPF nations. I'm standing aside and keeping neutral unless my friends are attacked. If TPF gets attacked, we simply fight.

[16:04] <thaisport> ok

01[16:04] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i simply just want left alone

[16:04] <thaisport> NAP and lets sort it out

01[16:05] <BurningGlory[TPF]> we had better than a nap

[16:05] <thaisport> you do know I audit the treaties and didn't find anything we both signed right

[16:06] <thaisport> i went through every posts from beginning of round the other day

[16:06] <thaisport> unless you wern't leading tpf in the beginning of the round and someone else sign it

[16:07] <thaisport> i went through you posts, pb's post, andrews posts, my posts,

[16:07] <thaisport> and even the general threads

01[16:07] <BurningGlory[TPF]> it was from last round

01[16:07] <BurningGlory[TPF]> carried over

01[16:07] <BurningGlory[TPF]> and the whole of TE knew it

01[16:08] <BurningGlory[TPF]> thats why you sat with out one attack

[16:08] <thaisport> that makes no sense to me

[16:08] <thaisport> but i wasn't leading in the beginning

[16:08] <thaisport> i though all pacts need to be renews with each round

[16:08] <thaisport> since a new round is a new round

[16:09] <thaisport> at least that is my undertanding

01[16:09] <BurningGlory[TPF]> then why didn't you mention this when i came to you and asked if you needed help

01[16:09] <BurningGlory[TPF]> with PS

[16:09] <thaisport> because i honsetly though we signed something

[16:10] <thaisport> i just audited it the other day

01[16:10] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well ok

[16:10] <thaisport> my mistake

01[16:10] <BurningGlory[TPF]> then i guess there is no need to cancel a treaty that didn't exist

[16:11] <thaisport> but i was under assumption we have one the whole time

01[16:11] <BurningGlory[TPF]> thats funny so was i

[16:11] <thaisport> oh well

[16:12] <thaisport> anyway

[16:12] <thaisport> looks like the TPF war with GDA is getting worse

01[16:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i don't see how

01[16:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i sent word to peace out

[16:13] <thaisport> GDA started offering peace

01[16:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> guess GDA seen your post

[16:13] <thaisport> but they arn't taking it

01[16:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yes they are

[16:14] <thaisport> just got reports in moments ago

01[16:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i have many copies

01[16:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> of the peace offered

[16:14] <thaisport> let me check on this side too

[16:17] <thaisport> anyway

[16:17] <thaisport> best of luck

[16:17] <thaisport> I need to run

01[16:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i have a post in the fourms i'm doing now

01[16:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i'll send you a link when done

[16:53] <thaisport> ok

01[16:57] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well, i'm typing away and i get a query that you are now going to attack TPF?

01[16:57] <BurningGlory[TPF]> is this true

[16:58] <thaisport> the messgae on the board is the query i'm getting

[16:58] <thaisport> and the message on the board still stands

[16:58] <thaisport> it has not changed

01[16:59] <BurningGlory[TPF]> that your attacking TPF?

[16:59] <thaisport> that if this does not get resolved TPF will get a counter on nation that have been attacking

[16:59] <thaisport> yes

01[16:59] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well

[16:59] <thaisport> no new targets are in scope

01[17:00] <BurningGlory[TPF]> guess the !@#$ keeps going

[17:00] <thaisport> hence non attacking member of TPF will not be targeted

[17:00] <thaisport> this is a counter offensive

01[17:00] <BurningGlory[TPF]> oh

[17:00] <thaisport> if things don't get resolved

01[17:00] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well i think you don't need to worry about that

[17:00] <thaisport> i will make it very clear on the boards

01[17:01] <BurningGlory[TPF]> GDA seems to have all of the attacking nations slots full

01[17:01] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well i'm making my post on the fourms reflect my decisions

01[17:01] <BurningGlory[TPF]> and what all is going on

[17:02] <thaisport> ok

[17:02] <thaisport> Off CNte topic and CNte feelings aside

[17:02] <thaisport> <--- B-day

01[17:03] <BurningGlory[TPF]> happy B day

[17:03] <thaisport> tks

[17:03] <thaisport> a whopping 33

01[17:03] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yw

01[17:03] <BurningGlory[TPF]> hmm

01[17:04] <BurningGlory[TPF]> got ya beat

[17:04] <thaisport> which in todays term is really 23 lol

01[17:04] <BurningGlory[TPF]> lol

[17:05] <thaisport> though I will celebrate it with friends and family on friday

[17:06] <thaisport> Wife is Chinese from Venezuela so we're going to do Venezuelan hot dog night because her sisters brough the awesome hotdog sauce from their country

[17:06] <thaisport> thing of hotdog but like a loaded like a sandwich

01[17:07] <BurningGlory[TPF]> cool

[17:07] <thaisport> Best hotdogs in the world

01[17:07] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i have a question for you

[17:07] <thaisport> hands down

[17:07] <thaisport> shoot

01[17:07] <BurningGlory[TPF]> do you think TPF is going to attack MHA

01[17:08] <BurningGlory[TPF]> is that what your thinking

[17:08] <thaisport> prior to this conflict no

01[17:08] <BurningGlory[TPF]> what did you tell james

[17:09] <thaisport> same things i told you

01[17:09] <BurningGlory[TPF]> hmmm

[17:09] <thaisport> but not to the same detail

[17:09] <thaisport> jame from GDA

[17:09] <thaisport> ?

01[17:09] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yeah

[17:10] <thaisport> oh that this issue could have been avoided has tpf gone in first

[17:10] <thaisport> but in regards to this evening

01[17:10] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yes

[17:10] <thaisport> that if things arn't resolved we will put out a counter offensive focusing on attacking nations first

[17:11] <thaisport> i told james and BoG that as well

[17:11] <thaisport> at least one nation that got peace went on to attack another gda nation

01[17:11] <BurningGlory[TPF]> did you tell him that you thought TPF was going to attack MHA

[17:11] <thaisport> no

01[17:11] <BurningGlory[TPF]> ok

01[17:11] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i'm just wondering how

01[17:12] <BurningGlory[TPF]> it came to light that you were going to attack us tonight

[17:12] <thaisport> oh

[17:12] <thaisport> yes people from TPF have asked

[17:12] <thaisport> and

[17:13] <thaisport> I have said the same thing I told you

01[17:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> hmm

[17:13] <thaisport> if this doesn't get resolved quickly

01[17:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well

[17:13] <thaisport> MHA will start with counters

01[17:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i don't know how it will get resolved

[17:13] <thaisport> we are not making it just a plain wife attack on TPF

01[17:13] <BurningGlory[TPF]> or when

[17:13] <thaisport> but from what i am hearing

[17:14] <thaisport> they are disobeying direct orders

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> but i'm talking to james now

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> well, word went out

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> but

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> i was also told

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> word went out

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> to not raid IC

01[17:14] <BurningGlory[TPF]> but they did

01[17:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> and said

01[17:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> they didn't get a pm

01[17:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> who the hell knows

01[17:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> all i can say is my post on the fourms will have all the info in it

01[17:15] <BurningGlory[TPF]> and why its taken a few days

01[17:16] <BurningGlory[TPF]> to get things done

01[17:16] <BurningGlory[TPF]> via your post on stalling

[17:53] <thaisport> gotta run for a bit... bbl

01[17:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> k

01[22:05] <BurningGlory[TPF]> http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=46631

01[22:05] No such nick/channel

Session Close: Wed Jan 28 22:09:31 2009

LET THE PUBLIC DECIDE OF YOUR ACTIONS.

THE OH SO HONORABLE THAISPORT.

You know Thai, this round is about to be over and all would of been ok maybe even next round something could of been worked out..not really sure.

But you posting this, and then going against your own word via private channels is just further proof of your plan to stab your friends in the back.

So right now you have the odds, you have the advantage, and you claim TE is for war....Next round will be different and i'm sure it will be war

the whole round....

BG.

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You know BG, As my DoW song goes:

He said, son, Ive made a life out of readin peoples faces,

And knowin what their cards were by the way they held their eyes.

So if you dont mind my sayin, I can see youre out of aces.

For a taste of your whiskey Ill give you some advice.

I am not suprised you posted this. I knew you liked logs and how you tried to used them to you advantage. Again, nothing to hide here.

Thaisport

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oop, more sharing of private logs.

wow BG, for such a close friend as Thai was to you, how could he do something as terrible as this?

whatever it was...

oh and i could also use a tl;dr on the query too. i apparently don't have as much time as most people on here to wade through query logs.

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01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> really

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> thats funny

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> UN

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> lol

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yeap

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> its true

01[15:53] <BurningGlory[TPF]> our army of

[15:54] <thaisport> so you see i take stuff like this with a grain of salt

[15:54] <thaisport> maybe you should think twice about your sources as well

01[15:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> noobs and infra strength of 600

01[15:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> going to take down you

01[15:54] <BurningGlory[TPF]> had you maybe said

[15:55] <thaisport> do the math

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> MI or UW or AZTEC even

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> that wouldn't be so funny

[15:55] <thaisport> being cynical here... un is all lower strength nations

[15:55] <thaisport> tpf has high end strength

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> yep lower than 1500

01[15:55] <BurningGlory[TPF]> useless

[15:56] <thaisport> together at least equal of MHA

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> unless fighting RE

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> no

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> not even close

[15:56] <thaisport> but it would propel you into #1

01[15:56] <BurningGlory[TPF]> so

Backstabber <_<

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Thai, I had the issue solved before I came and talked to you. GDA/NAAW had agreed that they would accecpt our peace offers ingame and end this in the next day or so. Then I came and talked to you trying to stop you from attacking us SINCE I had fulfilled your warning of getting it resolved in 1 day. IT WAS RESOLVED until you said you would attack us.

In your first topic you gave us 1 day to resolve it and it was resolved but yet you still want to attack us. Why?

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Hello all, im fairly new to the forums here, as ive typically kept to myself. as you can see by my thread, im trying to restructure the United Nations and keep it alive, as such, id like to talk with the head of all of the alliances involved in our current war with gda, and anyone else interested in reviewing our treaties. coming tommorow i will have a website/forum set up, and i will have messaged all of my nations, to stop hostilities until this is alll sorted out. please feel free to pm me on here or at my nation.

Naonmatrix

Ruler of Shadowmatrix

Prime Minister of United Nations

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Naon, protip: dont try, its not gonna happen. I spent all of yesterday trying to resolve it and came close but thai just blew it up in my face.

well in my other thread, i just had gda recognise peace with the United Nations, so i guess im doing something right. ^_^

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Read his new post, he said that was just one of the 2 conflicts he gave you guys peace to. Judgment and GDA can still attack you guys :/

then i guess i have alot of work to do tommorow then. i will be trying to communicate with judgement tommorow and sort this out!!

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o/ bullet points and bolded font :)

Very classy post from a leader that has demonstrated good sportsmanship and fair play.

Good luck to both sides!

<S>

Fish

Note to BG: Watch your health, step back, deep-breath, and now have some fun.

Fish....I'll say his post was pretty and all, but i have to disagree about GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP and FAIR PLAY. I called MHA out..or GDA out with

one AA to one AA in the field of battle doing it the honorable way...no takers! so how is 500 plus nations against 150 fair play?

Now this is what I wanted to read ;) Nice post thaisport.

o/ judgment

LOL, I bet you did FV...I bet you did! Looks like your plan worked ;)

BG, don't sink to his level. There's no need to explain or post logs. Let's just have a fun war with no hard feelings. :)

o/ TPF

-Bama

You are absolutly right Bama.....It's just very difficult to see people lie through their teeth about their actions and pretend they have honor.

wow thats a new low BG. Im not even gonna bother reading the logs whats said in private is meant for private. Real bad form my friend.

Sorry james, guess if lies weren't spread or bull crap started this wouldn't be nessassary.

And I have to disagree with you...my lowest point was ever having a treaty with you and MHA and standing by it.

BG.

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