mdnss69 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 My current infra level is at 4570 or thereabouts. I'm a little confundeled that when I reach the 4999.99 mark, should I save up for the big jump (infra jump calculator said it would cost roughly 30million) or should I start concentrating on saving up for my first wonder (I would have to ask the age old question if this is the case, SSS [40m] or SM[30m]?). What would be the advisable option? Currently I make a mere 1.5 million a day after taxes but a lot of this goes to people within my alliance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Well I can't do the math for you since I can't see your figures, but for SM: take your citizen count and times it by $2.8 to find out what it will bring. For SSS: take your Avg. Gross Income Per Individual Per Day and times it by 30%, then by your citizen count. Whichever gets more, buy. But yeah don't even think about crossing 4999.99 infra without a few wonders. I mean I have 4999.99 infra and clear about $5m+ a day with my 5 wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Okay, SM would boost me about 175k oer day and the SSS by 250k or so. Would it be a good idea to take a leaf out of your book and after these buy the Internet, Great Temple, Great University as well in that order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myruler Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Stock Market should be bought first since it is cheaper, starting your wonder cycle earlier. I would suggest saving up now because most people buy wonders starting at 4k infra, not 5k. SSS after the SM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 My current infra level is at 4570 or thereabouts. ... Currently I make a mere 1.5 million a day after taxes but a lot of this goes to people within my alliance... You are doing something wrong if that's what you make a day after bills with that infra :-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Okay, SM would boost me about 175k oer day and the SSS by 250k or so. Would it be a good idea to take a leaf out of your book and after these buy the Internet, Great Temple, Great University as well in that order? Not necessarily the Great University. Your order is prob gonna line up: SSS, SM, Great Temple, Internet, Great Monument. Thats providing your not making the 5K jump anytime soon. Great University was so good for me due to my 2,665.13 tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikajew Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Yea, I bought a wonder at around 4k infra, and it helped me get closer to the 5k jump. Since I bought a SM first, it allows me to clear 4 mil a day after bills at 4,799.99 infra. So I recommend buying one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 You are doing something wrong if that's what you make a day after bills with that infra :-\ Yea, I bought a wonder at around 4k infra, and it helped me get closer to the 5k jump. Since I bought a SM first, it allows me to clear 4 mil a day after bills at 4,799.99 infra. So I recommend buying one now. Strange the differences in intake per day. Perhaps an audit? As far as I can tell my resources are the best for infra as I can make them, cattle & pigs (mine), gold & water, coal & lead, aluminum & oil, marble & lumber >> steel, automobiles, construction, microchips, radiation clean-up, asphalt and scholars. I know most of these are infra reductors (possibly change them in favour of the income boosters once I reach the 4999 mark?) My military is a little excesive, but it really doesn't cost that much extra per day (Is there a specific military : population ration?) My government type is right (capitalist), so is the religion. My tech rate is just above the 11:1 ration and I plan on getting more when I have a slot clear. What's going wrong? (Nation ID >>> 148768) Anything at all is good so keep it coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman657 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Strange the differences in intake per day. Perhaps an audit?As far as I can tell my resources are the best for infra as I can make them, cattle & pigs (mine), gold & water, coal & lead, aluminum & oil, marble & lumber >> steel, automobiles, construction, microchips, radiation clean-up, asphalt and scholars. I know most of these are infra reductors (possibly change them in favour of the income boosters once I reach the 4999 mark?) My military is a little excesive, but it really doesn't cost that much extra per day (Is there a specific military : population ration?) My government type is right (capitalist), so is the religion. My tech rate is just above the 11:1 ration and I plan on getting more when I have a slot clear. What's going wrong? (Nation ID >>> 148768) Anything at all is good so keep it coming Your trades can be optimized to make you more money per day. You should have all of the following [Aluminum] [Cattle] [Fish] [iron] [Lumber] [Marble] [Pigs] [spices] [sugar] [Water] [Wheat] and then 1 extra, your choice, but I recommend either [uranium] or [Gems] Also, I'd recommend having at least 1,000 tech for your level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson King Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I'm not sure how bad your environment is, but you might want to try border walls. Also I would say get the SM before you hit 4,999.99 infra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gebiv Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Something's wrong there. I make 1.2 mil after bills and I'm less than half your infra. I'd work on fixing that before thinking abouta wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) Umm my environment is getting a 3.43 which is okay, not great but that's a reflection of the wars at the moment Edit; bought 4 border walls after decommising factories since I won't buy infra before I jump in a long long time, so my enironment is down to 1.43 and my I calculate my income up by 250k or so per day . What I'm noticing of Gebiv's and Alden Peterson's nations is the similarity of trades, the focus on income boosters rather than infra reductors. At the moment I think my total resources are great, but unlike ye, its a focus on infra reductors rather than boosters. Also, I'd recommend having at least 1,000 tech for your level. Yup, dosing up on 200 tech for the next week so that should be ok, I'll keep it coming in then from there. Edited June 1, 2008 by mdnss69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grist Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 You are doing something wrong if that's what you make a day after bills with that infra :-\ Got a point there, becuase I was earning that when i have 3,500 infra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Well since I got the help of all of ye its gone up to 1.75m, keep it coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikajew Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Get a new trade set, I changed mine, and got my environment up all the way and it helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Seeing as your resources are Cattle and Pigs you should definitely have Fast Food. It probably won't make a huge difference, but your bills might decrease a bit if you sold off your cruise missiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Once you begin buying wonders, might want to buy the interstate before jumping it'll help a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Got a point there, becuase I was earning that when i have 3,500 infra. This is approximately when most people should hit 1.5mil per day. The OP needs to fix his nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruxador Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Cut down all your military. It's not a huge deal, bills wise, but every bit helps. Also, I'm not sure, but it seams like you should only have 2 border walls. I could be wrong about that, I can't see all the info. Other than that, it's been said her before, but go to 3bg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Do you improvement swap? That could be why your income is so low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Rupert Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Well, it's his trades that is killing him the most. A standard 8 resource build at least has Fish and Wheat for population modifiers. But because of his starting resources being Cattle and Pigs, they're using those slots in the build which cut the standard modifer for the 8 resource build from 1.1664 to 1.0868. Just that difference alone probably has cost him 3000 citizens. He would probably have nearly 10000 more citizens if he had the three resource build (which his resources are ideal for); even more since he wouldn't need as many border walls not importing Coal or Oil as he is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Would it be a good idea to take a leaf out of your book and after these buy the Internet, Great Temple, Great University as well in that order? get a national research lab instead of Great University. More bang for your buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Umm my environment is getting a 3.43 which is okay, not great but that's a reflection of the wars at the moment Edit; bought 4 border walls after decommising factories since I won't buy infra before I jump in a long long time, so my enironment is down to 1.43 and my I calculate my income up by 250k or so per day . What I'm noticing of Gebiv's and Alden Peterson's nations is the similarity of trades, the focus on income boosters rather than infra reductors. At the moment I think my total resources are great, but unlike ye, its a focus on infra reductors rather than boosters. Yup, dosing up on 200 tech for the next week so that should be ok, I'll keep it coming in then from there. 4 Border Walls for a nation with less than 5k infra. No way, Jose! Drop at least three. Do it before collecting taxes so you can see how much extra you will make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 4 Border Walls for a nation with less than 5k infra. No way, Jose! Drop at least three. Do it before collecting taxes so you can see how much extra you will make. Environment causes a huge change with that now. I basically don't lose any citizens when I buy border walls at just under 6k infra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdnss69 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) edit; okies there are a lot of conflicting things here. My border walls are there at the moment because I'm only collecting and paying bills, I'm not buying infra or anything. I've easily payed off the cost of switching. I also have my 1 year anniversery in 20 days exactly so I'll be saving for that soon. It would probably be a good idea to get my trades switched before then. I've messaged a tonne of people about it so hopefully hat will sort itself out within 20 days. Thanks to everyone that answered! Edited June 5, 2008 by mdnss69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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