Ron Paul Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Please provide a current list of things that affect environment and the figures associated with each. I'll list specific questions, but please include anything I miss. Many questions stem from posts I've read, so I'm not sure they even pertain to the discussion. 1. Government. This chart doesn't address environment. http://www.cybernations.net/about_topics.asp#Government_Type 2. Population density. 3. Military/citizen ratio. 4. Government settings. 5. Soldier efficiency modifiers in general and barracks. 6. Land. 7. Tanks. 8. Nukes- how much effect per warhead. 9. Aircraft. 10. Cruise missiles. 11. Technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzygy Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) some of yours + Coal Oil Uranium BorderWalls National Environment Office Lead RadiationCleanup GRL BaseEnv Edited May 20, 2008 by (DAC)Syzygy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 From what I know (not 100% sure it's all right.) Soldier count > 60%= +1 environment Importing coal, oil, or uranium = +1 environment each Nukes = +.1 environment per war head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Please provide a current list of things that affect environment and the figures associated with each.I'll list specific questions, but please include anything I miss. Many questions stem from posts I've read, so I'm not sure they even pertain to the discussion. 1. Government. This chart doesn't address environment. http://www.cybernations.net/about_topics.asp#Government_Type The stars address the environment, red if it improves environment, blank if it damages environment, no star if no effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myruler Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 The stars address the environment, red if it improves environment, blank if it damages environment, no star if no effect. This is correct. I am almost positive that it is -1 environment for red star, 0 environment for no star and +1 environment for a blank star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 It's not, hover your mouse over the stars and you'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myruler Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 It's not, hover your mouse over the stars and you'll see. Wait, what? When I hover my mouse over it, it reads "Positive Environment Effect" or "Negative Environment Effect", I do not see numbers involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I'm saying red is positive, not negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myruler Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I'm saying red is positive, not negative. Exactly what I am saying. -1 environment is actually improving the environment. If you look over the numbers, a higher number for environment is worse, so me saying -1 is lowering that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Paul Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 How do those affect environment though? What are the figures? Specifically 2-11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Aldarich Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I think i'll switch to republic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephriam Grey Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Soldier count > 60%= +1 environment No. I've tested it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 No. I've tested it. It was a while ago, but then I noticed that the effect is gone about a month or two ago. Maybe I didn't remember correctly though, but I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gebiv Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 From what I know (not 100% sure it's all right.)Soldier count > 60%= +1 environment I have approx 80% military. Your claim fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have approx 80% military. Your claim fails. To be fair, like I said, this used to be true, but apparently is no longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Exactly what I am saying. -1 environment is actually improving the environment. If you look over the numbers, a higher number for environment is worse, so me saying -1 is lowering that number. The ones with the Red stars are more "Eco-Friendly" the blank or White stars are not Eco-Friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 What myruler was saying is that -1 improves your enviroment. Because 2.07 is the best enviroment you can have based on current GRL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Because 2.07 is the best enviroment you can have based on current GRL. No, not really. I have a 1.97 environment (5 star) as of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viluin Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) From what I know (not 100% sure it's all right.)Soldier count > 60%= +1 environment Importing coal, oil, or uranium = +1 environment each Nukes = +.1 environment per war head. It used to be Soldier efficiency > 60% = +1 env. However, I just bought some soldiers and nothing happened so this must have been removed. EDIT: I just bought 1000 soldiers and my Avg. Individual Income Taxes Paid Per Day went up by $0.01. Odd. EDIT 2: I raised my soldier count to nearly 80% and I haven't taken an environment hit at all. This was changed too. You don't take any kind of economical hit now unless you completely max them out. And even then it's just a happiness hit, not environment. EDIT 3: Ok, I take that back. For some reason I accidentally bought a fourth border wall during my labor camp swap, which is why I didn't notice my environment slightly going up when purchasing soldiers. Edited May 21, 2008 by Viluin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 No, not really. I have a 1.97 environment (5 star) as of now. Ah it all depends on how GRL moves tbh. As it goes down you can get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Indeed. The best environment you can have is GRL+1. (Except I used to have a bug that meant I could have 1.00 environment regardless of GRL, and I thought that was how it was meant to be .) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgonV Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 The soldier things still applies. This morning, my soldiers efficiency was 75% my population. My environment was 5.97. I reduced soldiers efficiency to 59% population, and my environment was 4.97. I forgot to document the changes a point in environment brings about though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephriam Grey Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 The soldier things still applies. This morning, my soldiers efficiency was 75% my population. My environment was 5.97. I reduced soldiers efficiency to 59% population, and my environment was 4.97. I forgot to document the changes a point in environment brings about though. It does not - you must've changed something else. I've had a number of folks in my alliance test this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixxx Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Does the NEO take the environement to 0 or is it just a replacement of border walls? The Radiation cleanup bonus resource looks a lot better all of a sudden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgonV Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) It does not - you must've changed something else. I've had a number of folks in my alliance test this It does. Your alliance most be doing it wrong. Here's my proof: Believe me now...? EDIT: For clarity, in the first pic I had 22,393 citizens, in the second pic 22,005. Just so you know it's efficiency that made the difference, not soldiers. Edited May 21, 2008 by ArgonV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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