thesoulman Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 i'm just wondering what people say i should get as my first national wonder. link to my nation: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=100165 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) In order for us to know for sure, we have to know your Avg. Gross Income Per Person Per Day. Edited February 25, 2008 by Aeternos Astramora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesoulman Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Avg. Gross Income Per Individual Per Day: $330.67 Avg. Individual Income Taxes Paid Per Day $92.58 72,193 Working Citizens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 SSS is probably the way to go. It is 99% of the time, the best first wonder to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 SSS is probably the way to go. It is 99% of the time, the best first wonder to get. Except the 99% of times where the Stock Market is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Rupert Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 If you already have the money and can but it today, the SSS will give the biggest boost to income. Otherwise the Stock Market is far and away the best first wonder. It's basically a +5 happiness wonder at $5 million less than any of the other +5 happiness wonders. It gives the largest bang for the buck and allows you to start your wonder cycle earlier and since you can only buy a wonder every 30 days, starting it as early as possible is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Lee Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) I would have to disagree with the 2 above me. SSS is definitely the best one. The only reason anyone purchases the SM first is because they are small and it takes them awhile to save the extra 10 million. They choose the SM because it starts your wonder clock earlier. In your case being as large as you are, and waiting as long as you already have to purchase a wonder, the couple extra days for the better wonder would be better. Edited February 25, 2008 by Gen. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenderDefender Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 You really can't go wrong with either a Stock Market or Social Security System as your first choice. With this choice it always come down to how much money your willing to save up. Just off the top of my head: 40 million vs. 30 million? With my nation I bought the Social Security System first. Stock Market second. Then depending where you're at usually people buy the Interstate System once you're at 4999.99 infrastructure to help with the jump. Since I got attacked and that took down my infra level quite a bit, I'm going to wait to buy that. And instead buy the Disaster Relief Agency. So hope that helps you for the next couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFERALFER Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Baseline.Values.before.Wonder.Purchase....Income..Tax.%.Tax.Coll..Daily.Taxes.Paid Avg..Gross.Income.Per.Individual.Per.Day:..330.67..28....92.58.....6,683,627.94. Population; 72,193 Increased.pop.income.total.for.improvements.107.593% Wonder.............................Income......Tax.%....Tax.$...Daily.Taxes.Paid Great.University.(with.3000.tech).$353.92.......28......$99.10...7,154,161.45. Social.Security.System............$330.67.......30......$99.20...7,161,617.79. Great.University.(with.2700.tech).$351.43.......28......$98.40...7,103,805.93. Great.Temple......................$351.43.......28......$98.40...7,103,805.93. Stock.Market......................$351.43.......28......$98.40...7,103,805.93. Internet..........................$351.43.......28......$98.40...7,103,805.93. National.War.Memorial.............$347.28.......28......$97.24...7,019,880.06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Xaero Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I bought a SM first, but my nation was smaller then... got it right after the 3k jump, then ISS after 4k, and am buying a SSS in a few days when the 30 day wait runs out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomuri Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 SSS seems to be the BEst one as it gives a much bigger boost than the SM Does 2% more tax or +10$/citizen, if your small the 10$ is worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallfrog Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 SSS seems to be the BEst one as it gives a much bigger boost than the SM Does2% more tax or +10$/citizen, if your small the 10$ is worth it +$10 a citizen gives you an extra $2.8 each in tax. +2% tax is worth more as soon as your citizens get more than $200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) Avg. Gross Income Per Individual Per Day: $330.67 Avg. Individual Income Taxes Paid Per Day $92.58 72,193 Working Citizens Right out of my handy-dandy CN Word page: SSS and +5 happiness/+$10 wonders (with perfect multipliers): Under $290.50, +5 happiness/+$10 wonders are better. Above $290.50, the SSS is better. SSS (however, the formula doesn't take into account the price difference, but I would still go with SSS). Edited February 26, 2008 by Aeternos Astramora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenix Aldar Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Wow, you shouldn't have made the 4999.99 jump without Interstate System! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestro Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Except the 99% of times where the Stock Market is best. Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 It all depends on whether you're starting Wonder buying early or late. SM for early, SSS for late. The income cutoff I mentioned earlier is where one gives you more money than the other (disregarding cost of the wonder). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Not really. If you are saving up to get a wonder, the Stock Market is the best wonder to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgsboson Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 +$10 a citizen gives you an extra $2.8 each in tax. +2% tax is worth more as soon as your citizens get more than $200. I was under the impression that +$10 a citizen actually gives you an extra $5.07 in tax with +82% income improvements as the +$10 becomes +$18.20 Is that right or wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myruler Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you don't have the money to buy the SSS right away, get the SM first. Even if you save only 2 days of saving, it is worth it. Maybe the 2 days isn't important for the first month, but a wonder every 2 days earlier of each month for the next year will be well worth it. Therefore SM is the best 99% of the time, the 1% being the times when people have the money before they choose to buy a wonder(which I don't know why it would happen unless you got 15m on a single day to boost you up there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigbigadorlou Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you're in any sort of possible danger, the manhatten prodject is the way to go. Nukes rule. probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would get the Stock Market if you're at the 4k jump or earlier, and the SSS (maybe Interstate) if you're at the 5k jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I was under the impression that +$10 a citizen actually gives you an extra $5.07 in tax with +82% income improvements as the +$10 becomes +$18.20Is that right or wrong? Full multipliers =~= 2.076. +$10 * 1.35 * 1.05 * 1.01 * 1.25 * 1.16 = $20.76 $20.76 * .28 = $5.81. To conclude this thread: If you're saving up to buy your first wonder, SM (so you can start your wonder-buying earlier.) If you're below $290.50 in average gross income per person per day, SM gives you more profit; above, SSS gives you more profit, but this doesn't take into account the differences in prices of the wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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