shwampy Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, AkkenNovikov said: The Wolves have taken 62.98% more NS Losses than Red Alert. The Wolves have taken 39.25% more Intra losses than Red Alert. and The Wolves have taken 44.41% more Tech losses than Red Alert. (Data was taken only from 2 data points from 5/26 and 6/16 so take what you will from this information.) wow, that's way better than I expected! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilweirdward Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 hours ago, kingzog said: So.... Has anyone compiled stats on how this is going? All I know is that my environment is suffering because of the faint green glow on the horizon. Who's winning? Here are some actual stats, inspired by (but obviously not nearly as in-depth or well-done as) @Piejonk's reports from Herogasm. The changes for the first two columns are taken from as close to the start of the war (5/24) as I could get. Alliance Name Active Nations Nation Strength Damage Dealt Damage Received Offensive Wars Defensive Wars Nukes Per Active Nation Libertarian Socialist Federation 3 (+1) 102,961 (+52,885) 45,095.92 33,115.96 11 2 7 Union Of Communist Republics 17 (+5) 969,326 (+15,941) 282,451.55 255,886.44 33 18 18.8235 Socialist Workers Front 2 (-1) 169,515 (-99,478) 54,819.49 66,393.27 1 8 25 The Wolves 10 (-1) 388,997 (-286,657) 355,395.67 382,366.96 28 45 7.2 Basically, the war is fairly even, with a slight edge towards RED ALERT. RED ALERT is definitely leading in all of the war stats, but they also have twice as many active nations and started with nearly twice as much NS, so they are probably slight statistical favorites anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, lilweirdward said: Here are some actual stats, inspired by (but obviously not nearly as in-depth or well-done as) @Piejonk's reports from Herogasm. The changes for the first two columns are taken from as close to the start of the war (5/24) as I could get. Alliance Name Active Nations Nation Strength Damage Dealt Damage Received Offensive Wars Defensive Wars Nukes Per Active Nation Libertarian Socialist Federation 3 (+1) 102,961 (+52,885) 45,095.92 33,115.96 11 2 7 Union Of Communist Republics 17 (+5) 969,326 (+15,941) 282,451.55 255,886.44 33 18 18.8235 Socialist Workers Front 2 (-1) 169,515 (-99,478) 54,819.49 66,393.27 1 8 25 The Wolves 10 (-1) 388,997 (-286,657) 355,395.67 382,366.96 28 45 7.2 Basically, the war is fairly even, with a slight edge towards RED ALERT. RED ALERT is definitely leading in all of the war stats, but they also have twice as many active nations and started with nearly twice as much NS, so they are probably slight statistical favorites anyway. Given how heavily the commies are able to down-declare, and given they're able to cycle in and out and reload nukes while us Wolves are buying and firing every day... these are really, really embarrassing stats for UCR. Edited June 16, 2023 by firingline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarx Posted June 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, firingline said: these are really, really embarrassing stats for UCR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, mrmarx said: You're gonna need a bigger tank of that stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrected USSR Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, firingline said: Given how heavily the commies are able to down-declare, and given they're able to cycle in and out and reload nukes while us Wolves are buying and firing every day... these are really, really embarrassing stats for UCR. cry me a river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 13 hours ago, lilweirdward said: Here are some actual stats, inspired by (but obviously not nearly as in-depth or well-done as) @Piejonk's reports from Herogasm. The changes for the first two columns are taken from as close to the start of the war (5/24) as I could get. Alliance Name Active Nations Nation Strength Damage Dealt Damage Received Offensive Wars Defensive Wars Nukes Per Active Nation Libertarian Socialist Federation 3 (+1) 102,961 (+52,885) 45,095.92 33,115.96 11 2 7 Union Of Communist Republics 17 (+5) 969,326 (+15,941) 282,451.55 255,886.44 33 18 18.8235 Socialist Workers Front 2 (-1) 169,515 (-99,478) 54,819.49 66,393.27 1 8 25 The Wolves 10 (-1) 388,997 (-286,657) 355,395.67 382,366.96 28 45 7.2 Basically, the war is fairly even, with a slight edge towards RED ALERT. RED ALERT is definitely leading in all of the war stats, but they also have twice as many active nations and started with nearly twice as much NS, so they are probably slight statistical favorites anyway. The canine jaw, while capable of tearing away large amounts of flesh, is not really designed for mastication. The above is a fine example. Thanks for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shwampy Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 19 hours ago, firingline said: Given how heavily the commies are able to down-declare, and given they're able to cycle in and out and reload nukes while us Wolves are buying and firing every day... these are really, really embarrassing stats for UCR. so we should feel embarrassed that we have come out on top as a result of your your little raid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, shwampy said: so we should feel embarrassed that we have come out on top as a result of your your little raid? You should be embarrassed at your performance, yes. Even GPA would do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkkenNovikov Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, firingline said: You should be embarrassed at your performance, yes. Even GPA would do better. Preforming so bad that 3 nations are forced to flee the AA (with 1 of the 3 trying to join CLAWs,) and an additional gets kicked for bad performance(?) Edited June 17, 2023 by AkkenNovikov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, AkkenNovikov said: Preforming so bad that 3 nations are forced to flee the AA (with 1 of the 3 trying to join CLAWs,) and the last gets kicked for bad performance(?) I know it's difficult to comprehend, given UCR has long been full of incompetent, selfish nations who flee any sort of real fight. But Al has standards. The expectation and the culture here is that even when you get hit by three nations with full nukes and 5x your tech with no break since your last war, you fight. There are likely some members who find that's not enjoyable for them. In those circumstances, Bundy offers to help place them in alliances that better suit them. It's just a cultural difference. Your alliance's culture is to only fight if you think you have every advantage going your way, and flee to peace mode if you face any sort of real adversity. It's just a different culture than what Bundy has going here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkkenNovikov Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, firingline said: I know it's difficult to comprehend, given UCR has long been full of incompetent, selfish nations who flee any sort of real fight. But Al has standards. The expectation and the culture here is that even when you get hit by three nations with full nukes and 5x your tech with no break since your last war, you fight. There are likely some members who find that's not enjoyable for them. In those circumstances, Bundy offers to help place them in alliances that better suit them. It's just a cultural difference. Your alliance's culture is to only fight if you think you have every advantage going your way, and flee to peace mode if you face any sort of real adversity. It's just a different culture than what Bundy has going here. That's some premium BS, and to add to that. Unfortunately those nations that fled are still valid targets until they surrender regardless what their intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, AkkenNovikov said: That's some premium BS, and to add to that. Unfortunately those nations that fled are still valid targets until they surrender regardless what their intentions. It's not BS at all. It's fact. You're free to attack CLAWS members all you want! I bet you wouldn't dare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapleo Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, firingline said: It's not BS at all. It's fact. You're free to attack CLAWS members all you want! I bet you wouldn't dare. Double it and give it to FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, Kapleo said: Double it and give it to FTW We'll be handing them back a couple of broken nations, so I guess it WOULD be fair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, firingline said: We'll be handing them back a couple of broken nations, so I guess it WOULD be fair... Getting a lot of external manpower to join The Wolves and deal with the so-called "incompetent" members of UCR. Either you're right and they are incompetent, which means so are you and the rest of The Wolves because you seem unable to achieve victory without mercenaries to help out. Or you're wrong and they are competent, which is precisely why you've got some mercenary support from Non Grata. However you slice it? It's not the most flattering reflection of how The Wolves are faring against UCR. Edited June 18, 2023 by Johnny Apocalypse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Johnny Apocalypse said: Getting a lot of external manpower to join The Wolves and deal with the so-called "incompetent" members of UCR. Either you're right and they are incompetent, which means so are you and the rest of The Wolves because you seem unable to achieve victory without mercenaries to help out. Or you're wrong and they are competent, which is precisely why you've got some mercenary support from Non Grata. However you slice it? It's not the most flattering reflection of how The Wolves are faring against UCR. You're trying too hard, Johnny. How many 'mercenary nations' joined TW? How many 'mercenary nations' joined the commies - who already had a SIGNIFICANT advantage in number of nations, tech, and NS? Great. Now subtract the second number from the first. How many total net 'mercenaries' joined TW? Edited June 18, 2023 by firingline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, firingline said: You're trying too hard, Johnny. mrw read any firing line post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarx Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, firingline said: How many 'mercenary nations' joined TW? Since the start of this conflict, 3 volunteers have joined the ranks of the wolves, one nation was kicked out, and one nation fled rather than fight 2 hours ago, firingline said: How many 'mercenary nations' joined the commies Since the start of this conflict, 1 volunteer has joined the ranks of RED ALERT, 2 former members returned to their old alliances, and 1 nation was reactivated 2 hours ago, firingline said: Great. Now subtract the second number from the first. How many total net 'mercenaries' joined TW? 3 - 1 = 2 2 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said: However you slice it? It's not the most flattering reflection of how The Wolves are faring against UCR. Especially since they just admitted to kicking out a nation for not being a good enough fighter and another chose to run away rather than support their alliance-mates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, firingline said: You're trying too hard, Johnny. How many 'mercenary nations' joined TW? How many 'mercenary nations' joined the commies - who already had a SIGNIFICANT advantage in number of nations, tech, and NS? Great. Now subtract the second number from the first. How many total net 'mercenaries' joined TW? These are for you. Go ahead and grasp 'em, you've earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, mrmarx said: Since the start of this conflict, 3 volunteers have joined the ranks of the wolves, one nation was kicked out, and one nation fled rather than fight Since the start of this conflict, 1 volunteer has joined the ranks of RED ALERT, 2 former members returned to their old alliances, and 1 nation was reactivated 3 - 1 = 2 Especially since they just admitted to kicking out a nation for not being a good enough fighter and another chose to run away rather than support their alliance-mates Commies are literally incapable of being intellectually honest. Here, let me help you with the math. Wolves: 3 Commies 3 3 - 3 = 0 You don't get to comment on 'supporting alliance mates'. You repeatedly sent your alliance mates to the meat grinder then hid in peace mode. The only reason you aren't hiding in peace mode right now is you have a 3 to 1 advantage. Still waiting for you guys to attack that nation who joined CLAWS, btw. Time for you to back up your !@#$ talk, Comrade Marx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarx Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, firingline said: You don't get to comment on 'supporting alliance mates'. I do and I will. 44 minutes ago, firingline said: then hid in peace mode. The more you whine about our alliance's use of peace mode, the more I will continue to cycle in and out. Cope harder 46 minutes ago, firingline said: Still waiting for you guys to attack that nation who joined CLAWS, btw. Since when is it our problem to deal with your deserters? How 'bout you keep your own folks in line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, mrmarx said: The more you whine about our alliance's use of peace mode, the more I will continue to cycle in and out. Cope harder Ahh - more of that intellectual dishonesty we were just talking about. I promise you weren't "cycling in and out" of peace mode the last 2 wars. You were hiding in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AL Bundy Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 Hahahaha this is all hilarious! Just some little responses for now.... I kick people who don't fight, he should have been kicked last war but I was being nice, Malakarlian is less forgivening. I told the other guy to leave, he's newer and not as aggressive as I want in my aa. Good guy, didn't declare and was never declared on. Lastly are you all really crying I accepted 3 nations to fight hahahaha when you had 3 additions from the start of this ..... hillllllllaaarrrioouss!!!! O and commies stats... a joke as well I'm sure... don't worry we could be a little behind but it will change.... commies have no money... I'll spend all mine for the fun of it Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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