Stewie Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, mmansfield68 said: "Yet the poor fellows think they are safe! They think that the war is over! Only the dead have seen the end of war." -- George Santayana, 1863-1952 Then we rise again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 New years day offensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimm Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Oh, joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydonian Knight Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Lyanna Mormont said: Why would we? Its easy, if Doom hits an ally of NG, we get to go to war. Here hoping it happens 3 hours ago, CrinkledStraw said: And what a gift that would be indeed. Tinni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lyanna Mormont said: Why would we? Its easy, if Doom hits an ally of NG, we get to go to war. That's literally always been the case? I guess I don't understand your point. Edit: Quote A whole bunch of NG saying it'd be a treat if DBDC would attack one of their allies ...what? You just agreed to peace with them so you clearly weren't chomping at the bit to fight them. If you were, why would you work to end the war? Edited December 20, 2022 by firingline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, firingline said: That's literally always been the case? I guess I don't understand your point. Edit: ...what? You just agreed to peace with them so you clearly weren't chomping at the bit to fight them. If you were, why would you work to end the war? Are you chomping at the bit to betray your next alliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lyanna Mormont said: Are you chomping at the bit to betray your next alliance? Yawn. Are you chomping at the bit to quit the game the next time you think NG is going to lose a war? Back to where you were pretending to really, really want to hit DBDC days after you sought white peace w/ DBDC. "Hold me back bro!" Edited December 20, 2022 by firingline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, firingline said: Yawn. Are you chomping at the bit to quit the game the next time you think NG is going to lose a war? Back to where you were pretending to really, really want to hit DBDC days after you sought white peace w/ DBDC. "Hold me back bro!" I didn't know you thought betraying Doom Squad was so boring. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Lyanna Mormont said: I didn't know you thought betraying Doom Squad was so boring. Interesting. Yet another extremely common human interaction you seem confused by. I'm a nice guy, though, so I'll explain it to you: When you hear the same thing 20 times per week, it gets a bit boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrinkledStraw Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, firingline said: I guess I don't understand your point Guess we don’t understand yours. Why negotiate something we’d obviously take care of, since that has literally always been the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 56 minutes ago, CrinkledStraw said: Guess we don’t understand yours. Why negotiate something we’d obviously take care of, since that has literally always been the case? The original question was not whether or not NG would support its allies. You’ll be a lot less confused if you address the actual issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, firingline said: The original question was not whether or not NG would support its allies. You’ll be a lot less confused if you address the actual issue. Shush. Edited December 20, 2022 by MasterChief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, MasterChief said: Shush. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 14 hours ago, firingline said: This peace agreement obviously applies to the current war started by NATO/FTW. I like how you're trying to claim it expands to Doom's raiding declaration from years ago, but that isn't mentioned in the treaty text at all and there's really no reason to think that stance has changed. Of course, Non Grata and other could have negotiated for that term... but didn't. Are you mental? It does not matter how or when the war started, insofar as this agreement is concerned, this white peace is an endpoint for ALL conflict and war between Doom (and others) and all undersigned alliances of Herogasm. Which means it closes the open ended raiding declaration that Doom issued long ago, insofar as that applies to undersigned Herogasm coalition members. Should Doom launch offensives, this would be a new conflict. At present, there is peace. There is every reason to believe we are at a state of peace currently. This is just some of the dumbest logic I have seen from you yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrinkledStraw Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 hours ago, firingline said: The original question was not whether or not NG would support its allies. You’ll be a lot less confused if you address the actual issue. I don’t see an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 hours ago, HeroofTime55 said: Are you mental? It does not matter how or when the war started, insofar as this agreement is concerned, this white peace is an endpoint for ALL conflict and war between Doom (and others) and all undersigned alliances of Herogasm. Which means it closes the open ended raiding declaration that Doom issued long ago, insofar as that applies to undersigned Herogasm coalition members. Should Doom launch offensives, this would be a new conflict. At present, there is peace. There is every reason to believe we are at a state of peace currently. This is just some of the dumbest logic I have seen from you yet. The only conflict/war started in June. That conflict/war is now over per this agreement, and the agreement said absolutely nothing about DBDC's declaration years ago. There's no reason to think this agreement has anything to do with DBDC's statement years ago. It does not close the declaration Doom issued, it simply ends the conflict that began in June. If you wanted to address Doom's statement on raiding, you'd have to bring that to the negotiating table. You didn't, because you were in no position to make those kinds of demands. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBeeGipson Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 11:33 PM, jerdge said: Argent, CLAWS, DBDC, DS, DT, DW, EO, GATO, GLoF, IRON, KoRT, NBO, NPO, ODN, Ouroboros, PGS, TKTB, VE, and WWF hereby enter a state of white peace with CCC, CRAP, FAIL, FAN, Fark, FTW, Kashmir, The Legion, MHA, MONGOLS, NATO, NG, NoR, NpO, OBR, OG, Ouroboros, RIA, Sparta, and TLR. Hope this clears up any confusion. At the end of the day, nothing stops DBDC from raiding anyone outside of this agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, firingline said: The only conflict/war started in June. That conflict/war is now over per this agreement, and the agreement said absolutely nothing about DBDC's declaration years ago. There's no reason to think this agreement has anything to do with DBDC's statement years ago. It does not close the declaration Doom issued, it simply ends the conflict that began in June. If you wanted to address Doom's statement on raiding, you'd have to bring that to the negotiating table. You didn't, because you were in no position to make those kinds of demands. Simple. So you're trying to make sure that you are covered as well? Since you know.... You aren't in an alliance. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The R00STER Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SeaBeeGipson said: Hope this clears up any confusion. At the end of the day, nothing stops DBDC from raiding anyone outside of this agreement. *At the end of the day, nothing stops DBDC from raiding anyone.* Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, MasterChief said: So you're trying to make sure that you are covered as well? Since you know.... You aren't in an alliance. Simple. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrinkledStraw Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, firingline said: The only conflict/war started in June. That conflict/war is now over per this agreement, and the agreement said absolutely nothing about DBDC's declaration years ago. There's no reason to think this agreement has anything to do with DBDC's statement years ago. It does not close the declaration Doom issued, it simply ends the conflict that began in June. If you wanted to address Doom's statement on raiding, you'd have to bring that to the negotiating table. You didn't, because you were in no position to make those kinds of demands. Simple. It wasn’t brought to the table because it will be handled if it’s a problem. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrinkledStraw Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, SeaBeeGipson said: Hope this clears up any confusion. At the end of the day, nothing stops DBDC from raiding anyone outside of this agreement. I’m excited if it doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, CrinkledStraw said: It wasn’t brought to the table because it will be handled if it’s a problem. Simple. So basically you're agreeing with me that nothing has changed, which would be the opposite of what HoT etc. were saying. Great! Glad we finally established that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrinkledStraw Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) I'm agreeing that there's not a problem here because this lists our friends, and we'd be fine clearing it up if needed. Neat! Edited December 20, 2022 by CrinkledStraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, CrinkledStraw said: I'm agreeing Thank you for agreeing with me. Happy holidays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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