Stewie Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Kapleo said: This back and forth is so dumb. Alright so here's what everyone needs to know so everyone can just go back to fight. This war has been in the making for a very long time and at least I can trace it back to GK's Cobra but maybe it could go way beyond that, but yeah, the Herogasm side was the one looking for the war and there is NOTHING wrong with that. A war game is supposed to be played with, hear me out... WARS and the hegemony has grown dead and boring. The "Herogasm" coalition was twice the size before it was called that and shrank mostly due to friends of friends not getting along with friends' friends' friends or didn't align with friends' friends' objectives. The people puppeteering the war have changed several times with someone picking wherever X/Y character left off but it can be traced back to Johnny, Lucius, Lyanna, Stewie, Caustic, Devo, Lww, Lex Quintus (RIP), DLS, Korlath (Hallowed be thy name) Marty, Buuyo and yours truly. Sorry, I'm sure I left others outside. In a nutshell some of those interested in fueling this global conflict either wanted a piece of Oculus, mostly NPO or a piece of Doom, mostly Claws. Bridges started falling apart and everyone started picking sides with whomever was the enemy of the new enemy just to spite said new enemy leaving the herogasm side having to play necromancy to make for the loss of all the Boognish alliances, RON, Polar and whatever others no one knows about. At some point it seemed like it was never gonna happen but the now RFD folks stuck with the plan and made it happen even with the new crappy odds. Impressive, commendable to say the least. Now the point I want to make: IT IS OK TO START WARS OF AGGRESSION. It should be celebrated and encouraged. Trying to spin an aggressive war into defensive is plain pathetic especially when there is mountains of evidence to prove otherwise. Embrace the "I had enough of your BS so we dancing now because of it" which is exactly what the Herogasm side did. I'm not giving you all sh*t over it, all I'm saying is y'all did a ballsy thing so you might as well own it with pride. TLDR: You can't tell me or any of the other Boognish, Polar or Ron leaders this war is defensive cause at some point we were part of or almost were part of that coalition which had Claws/Doom as the main target. We know bro. We have literal logs. Stop trying to gaslight everyone into thinking otherwise. You did a good thing. OWN IT. Wars are fun. You get to force people to pick what flavour of green winter they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Windmark Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 hours ago, firingline said: Context matters. Let me break this down for you. FTW indirectly attacked CLAWS (an RFI member) by attacking 3 treaty obligations of theirs with no CB. They knew it would drag them into a war and provide just enough cover for you to play stupid since they weren't directly attacked. Just three of their allies, with no CB. You quickly jumped onto their side of the war, and told the rest of RFI to pound sand. You offer no assistance to RFI as they fight a war that was brought to them by the people you purport to 'defend'. Supremacy clause or not, it's highly unusual to side against your bloc when it was your bloc that was among the primary groups targeted with no CB (the others being NPO and Doom). "But they weren't directly attacked so..." just isn't a very compelling argument. Yes, your entry on the side of FTW is justified based on precedent - treaties have been gamed for a very long time, it's part of the strategy of a war. You can execute the defense portion of your treaty with FTW. That changes nothing. Big picture: you chose to side with the aggressors who targeted your bloc. And as I pointed out earlier, you could at least make some token effort to activate RFI and help in some way through article IV. But you've chosen not to. And that's no mistake. With GATO essentially nonexistent and you clearly firmly in NG's sphere, it really makes one wonder why RFI even exists anymore. Firingline, I give up. You really dont have a clue what your talking about. You lost me at The Legion being "firmly in NGs sphere". Have fun! brgds, LW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Windmark said: Firingline, I give up. You really dont have a clue what your talking about. You lost me at The Legion being "firmly in NGs sphere". Have fun! brgds, LW. I know right? I mean.. I know we don't hate each other anymore but I'd yet to say we are best buddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Stewie said: Actually we are all GPA's sphere... Quiet you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapleo Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Stewie said: Wars are fun. You get to force people to pick what flavour of green winter they want That's the way 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Lord Windmark said: Firingline, I give up. You really dont have a clue what your talking about. You lost me at The Legion being "firmly in NGs sphere". Have fun! brgds, LW. You'd have a little more credibility if you explained how any one of my points was wrong instead of just waving your hands and saying "but we're following the letter of every one of our treaties!" (As if that somehow really mattered in this discussion.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Lord Windmark said: Firingline, I give up. You really dont have a clue what your talking about. You lost me at The Legion being "firmly in NGs sphere". Have fun! brgds, LW. You know he is not trolling he really is that confused and boring. He claims that this is not act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 firingline is deeply offended that Legion did not honor their non-existent treaty with Doom Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Lord Windmark said: Firingline, I give up. You really dont have a clue what your talking about. You lost me at The Legion being "firmly in NGs sphere". Have fun! brgds, LW. LOL I love this, Lord Windmark, do we have concussions? Did we sign a treaty that we both forgot about? I know I play CN baked sometimes but good lord that is a whole new level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1ph4 0m3ga Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Lord Windmark said: You lost me at The Legion being "firmly in NGs sphere". Have fun! And here I thought we were all "firmly in FTW/NATO's sphere" to just hit RFI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblies Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 lol stay classy OWF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, A1ph4 0m3ga said: And here I thought we were all "firmly in FTW/NATO's sphere" to just hit RFI? No, we are all meat shields to protect CCC members, get it straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Lyanna Mormont said: No, we are all meat shields to protect CCC members, get it straight I prefer the term 'useful idiots'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, firingline said: I prefer the term 'useful idiots'. LOL Useful idiots with nukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, firingline said: I prefer the term 'useful idiots'. Being useful is more than you will ever be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Glaucon Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 7:29 AM, jerdge said: I had to check my calendar when I saw your posts. What's next, a Walford appearance? Doitzel? (Too bad for the ones we know can't show up again though.) There was... substantial dust when they woke me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 hours ago, HeroofTime55 said: Being useful is more than you will ever be. Thank you for your contribution, HoT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, firingline said: Thank you for your contribution, HoT. Quit while you are behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firingline Posted August 23, 2022 Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ditchboy00 said: Quit while you are behind. I'll do what I want, and you'll deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Glaucon Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 9:16 AM, firingline said: I'll do what I want, and you'll deal with it. Tedious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 12:16 AM, firingline said: I'll do what I want, and you'll deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonyk5 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 10:12 AM, Franz Ferdinand said: Ender Order did the declaration, then merged into TCTB, who inherited those wars as they were not formally peaced out. $%&@ this !@#$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdred Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 9:12 PM, HeroofTime55 said: Being useful is more than you will ever be. speaking from experience I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ericdred said: speaking from experience I see three weeks, not bad Edited September 12, 2022 by HeroofTime55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drugsup Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Pleasant to see some familiar faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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