Master Hakai Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 11:22 AM, Joseph Black said: Its been this way since ‘06 The fella who says this also says quote you have your head in the clouds unquote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Black Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, SemperFidelis said: I agree with this approach. Helps keep the game active and creative without the punishing, punitive actions currently being exhibited. A notion of fair play helps too, but sadly objective thought seems impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFidelis Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Joseph Black said: A notion of fair play helps too, but sadly objective thought seems impossible. Joseph, I agree with your statement about a notion of fair play. That said, how do we move forward making objective thought and gamesmanship 'possible'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Black Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, SemperFidelis said: Joseph, I agree with your statement about a notion of fair play. That said, how do we move forward making objective thought and gamesmanship 'possible'? I dont think its actually possible. I'd love to see the community come together to establish a code of conduct with community sanctions for violations. A sense of right and wrong, but that's where I think it falls apart. Too few can agree on the most basic sense of whats acceptable and what isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kanabis Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 tl;dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Mormont Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 17 hours ago, General Kanabis said: tl;dr This is ❤️ and I agree and thanks should be given to everyone *not FTW* for making this game and community awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) What is the perfect length of a war? 1. None, I just do not want war. 2. Until someone gives up. It is not about the time period but about winning however that is defined. 3. One or two rounds 4. One month 5 Two months 6. Three months 7. Over 3 months What of the below, are acceptable peace terms for ending a war? You can mark as many or few as you like. 1. Officially say the alliance surrenders. 2. Payment of reparations as long as they are small. 3 . Paymebt of reparations regardless of amount. 4. writing essay or review. 5. Decommission of weapons. 6. Changing Team color. 7. Demanding votes for particular people in senate race. 8. Demanding that certain people leave an alliance (but not disbanding alliance as a whole) 9. Demanding the alliance disband. 10. Other (list) what of the above are not acceptable and you would speak badly of any group doing it? what of the above are not acceptable and you would war against any alliance/ coalition or plot until your side would win) that did it? Do you love, hate or feel neutral if your nation is raided? Do you love, hate or feel neutral in terms of raiding yourself? @jerdge Edited October 25, 2019 by White Chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kanabis Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, White Chocolate said: What is the perfect length of a war? 1. None, I just do not want war. 2. Until someone gives up. It is not about the time period but about winning however that is defined. 3. One or two rounds 4. One month 5 Two months 6. Three months 7. Over 3 months What of the below, are acceptable peace terms for ending a war? You can mark as many or few as you like. 1. Officially say the alliance surrenders. 2. Payment of reparations as long as they are small. 3 . Paymebt of reparations regardless of amount. 4. writing essay or review. 5. Decommission of weapons. 6. Changing Team color. 7. Demanding votes for particular people in senate race. 8. Demanding that certain people leave an alliance (but not disbanding alliance as a whole) 9. Demanding the alliance disband. 10. Other (list) what of the above are not acceptable and you would speak badly of any group doing it? what of the above are not acceptable and you would war against any alliance/ coalition or plot until your side would win) that did it? Do you love, hate or feel neutral if your nation is raided? Do you love, hate or feel neutral in terms of raiding yourself? You're forgetting an important factor in all of this, and that is- Casus belli The "why of it all. For example_ When is it acceptable to launch aggressive campaigns? 1. Only if the political climate allows it (Check your treaty web privilege) 2. Only if the effort required doesn't surpass that of a real challenge 3. Under any circumstance in which an ally's sovereignty has been infringed upon, regardless of the consequences 4. It is never acceptable, we only play this game out of habit 5. Only if Oculus classifies them as rogues first so we can get a free pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Thank you, people! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 The game has always had the issue of mechanical competition being limited because it's tedious to be mechanically competitive and requires new players joining and being dependent on a small numbers of mechanically competitive alliances that would carry the load for the rest. The lack of new players and the fact that new players can't do much on their own means it's a death cycle. Many people are just keeping the nations around and as stewie pointed out, there's a massive lack of activity in the bigger alliances, so there is no incentive to fight because it's an organizational nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 6:15 PM, General Kanabis said: tl;dr I have belonged to three of those alliances and led one of them. You are most welcome. I really did try. Since there's really no other place to put this, a brief commentary on unintended consequences. Some will remember the great debate about the GRL, its removal, and associated environmental effects. The intent was to create a situation wherein the use of nukes would have devastating effects for all nations, perhaps serving as a kind of brake on their use. Of course, this never happened. Instead, my new nation (my umpteenth, I believe) is at 4,100 infra, has a full suite of happiness inducing improvements, two Wonders, and a population that is indifferent and an environment that is catastrophic. As a result, I am barely able to pay my bills each day. I don't particularly care, mind you. I'm not here to 'grow my nation' or engage in any of the kind of idiotic flexing I see from time to time. I sell tech and send PMs to friends. But if I were a new nation actually trying to make a go of it, I'd be frustrated as hell and would have quit long ago. The hill that one must climb to build a nation is far steeper than it was just a few years ago, and the rewards (?) are few to non-existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kanabis Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 hours ago, kingzog said: The hill that one must climb to build a nation is far steeper than it was just a few years ago, and the rewards (?) are few to non-existent. A Sisyphean endeavor these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sysiphus Maximus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 15 hours ago, General Kanabis said: A Sisyphean endeavor these days... True, but I shall endeavor. ”How many licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop?” Let’s find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kanabis Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sysiphus Maximus said: True, but I shall endeavor. ”How many licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop?” Let’s find out. We're all rootin' for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sysiphus Maximus Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 8 hours ago, General Kanabis said: We're all rootin' for ya Haha! I love it! And I love this topic and the posters who have put in their two cents. Back to the subject at hand: [gif]williewonka/walking.with.cane/falling/springingtolife[/gif]] <——— admin With what I’ve seen and heard, people in power don’t want to give up their power; just like in real life. I would ask if players would prefer a time limit/reset similar to TE, but longer. Who would enforce this? That’s a problem. Also, this reminds me too much of CN 2.0, so, never mind, it’s already been proposed and shown to be mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Now there's an idea - the fall of nations. Not a global reset or time limit, but a randomly-generated event chain that simulates a nation's fall. Military failure, crumbling infrastructure, population upheaval. You can't predict it, you can try and fight it, but sooner or later it will happen to you. Could end up being very frustrating if executed wrong, but could also allow for some decent mobility for younger nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 8:50 PM, Pyrrha said: I'm actually a fairly well known PnW player, but the main complaints they pose and the reasons why i haven't seriously joined CN (aside from reading your forums), is stagnant politics, a huge gap between new and older players and a bad UI. The latter can't be fixed afik. It shocked me a few days ago when i checked your forums and noticed Non-Grata attacking Freehold of the Wolves, i'd assumed you guys had already past the point of no return for alliance wars. <> I wouldn't be opposed to joining an alliance, if you guys know of any active ones. Ayy epi, I tok am a well known PnW player. I'd recommend joining the game if you are bothered with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Optimus Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 12:49 AM, MinesomeMC said: Ayy epi, I tok am a well known PnW player. I'd recommend joining the game if you are bothered with this one. Be gone thot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Jack Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 For me, it's all about the community. Most of the community has moved on, what is the incentive ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 4:10 PM, Kongo Jack said: For me, it's all about the community. Most of the community has moved on, what is the incentive ? The Second Third Coming of Electron Sponge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Jack Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 12:35 PM, AlmightyGrub said: The Second Third Coming of Electron Sponge? Perhaps a 3rd GOONS? At least this planet has some civility and order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 On 12/7/2019 at 1:58 AM, Kongo Jack said: Perhaps a 3rd GOONS? At least this planet has some civility and order. That might be amusing. The first GOONS were cool, the second GOONS were OK but not as good as the first episode , hopefully the final part of the GOONS trilogy will be epic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaStealth Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I fought several wars against Goons. Always fun, but sometimes the trolling was a bit much. They did make the game interesting. Except Sardonic - his SDI once blocked 2/3 of the nukes in my arsenal. It was lamentable, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 12:35 PM, AlmightyGrub said: The Second Third Coming of Electron Sponge? As a bearded mooch (much beloved by people without actual life experience) once noted, great personages tend to occur, in a sense, twice: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce. Sponge's re-appearance would add a third category: the complete waste of goddamn time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) And we are back to the classic CN pipe dream, hoping that someone else will come by to make it interesting and somehow break the stagnation. Stagnation that every one of those dreamers would then immediately and without hesitation fight to uphold. Edited December 16, 2019 by HeroofTime55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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